Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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What is intriguing is that in spite of the blatant violation of social distancing in most parts of Pak, there are just 4688 cases of the virus affected turds out there as of now. Or are they hiding the actual numbers?
Just when you said it.

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The reported death numbers are a joke as well. It must be 10 times of that number by now or maybe they are just counting the dead Punjabis. Rest of the porkies are just animals for their pak-fauj anyways.

Last I know of, paki testing capacity was 200 per day, and they consistently averaging growth rate of close to 200 cases per day.

That would mean almost 100% of samples are testing + Ve.

Anyone else have any latest info on paki testing capacity?
Its says 54k tested and 6.5k positive. About 12% compared to about 4% for India.

Yesterday they have tested 10k and they have 2k new cases. That is 20%. Looking very very bad for them.
 

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Pakistan seems like a lost case now.
There are 4600 infections with 780 recovery it seems whatever they are giving to the patient's is working or maybe they have better immunity.
Whatever be the case the no might be in 10k to 20k if the civilian continue their congregation.

Here check it

https://www.coronatracker.com/country/pakistan/
Major Gaurav arya was saying that Bajwa have already left the country.
Army don't care if population of Pakistan decrease till the time elitist people are secure.
Pakistani army have already allotted space for graveyards in every states for covid-19 cases
 

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And USA isn't much young either. And China also has a very aged population and yet has a much smaller death rate.
I think one of the debates is how do we compare the death rates between different countries.

Some country might well not be recording a patient as dying of Coronavirus ,if the patient had other very serious complications ,such as diabetes or heart disease,and so the precise cause of death can't be determined.
Maybe ,in some states, obvious Coronavirus deaths may have not even recorded ,because of political reasons.

in contrast ,in Italy,for example, it seems if a patient dies,and it is found out they have Coronavirus this will ,as a matter of course, be recorded as a Coronavirus death.. This might be one factor as to why Italy's Coronavirus death rate has been so high.


The poster afako posted the article below,last month, in this thread ,but I think it is worth reposting.

In it the scientific advisor to the Italy's ministry of health gave his thoughts::


"Of the 63,927 people confirmed coronavirus patients in Italy, 6,077 so far have died. By contrast China has many more cases, 81,496, but 3,274 fatalities.

In very crude terms, this means that around nine per cent of confirmed coronavirus patients have died in Italy, compared to four per cent in China
. By this measure Germany, which has so far identified 28,865 cases and 118 deaths, has a fatality rate of just 0.4 per cent.

So why the disparity?

……………......…..

[Prof Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, added that Italy’s death rate appears high] because of how doctors record fatalities.

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says. ""

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-Italy/
 
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Indians loves bragging. .........
World leader
Superpower
VishwaGuru
Bla bla bla.
We just can’t hold our tongue inside the mouth.
Attention seekers.
Nothing wrong in that. In fact, we are not gloating enough. Only if we rub it in the faces of vile white filth in UK/USA will the poverty porn they sing wrt india will slow down.

Considering that we went from being a nation of slaves to surpassing the white trash in UK in 75yrs, we have every right to do it
 

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https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/t...-coronavirus-till-trials-on-icmr-5128431.html


:pound: HCQs not recommended says ICMR after coming to its senses finally. As I already said, science >>>>> whims/fantasies
The article you've mentioned says that they haven't done any trial and hence they don't recommend HCQ. But the main question is why are you so happy about it?
I mean do you want HCQ to fail the test? Your ego is so bloated that you want a drug trial to fail because you want to win an argument on the internet. :lol:
 

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I think one of the debates is how do we compare the death rates between different countries.

Some country might well not be recording a patient as dying of Coronavirus ,if the patient had other very serious complications ,such as diabetes or heart disease,and so the precise cause of death can't be determined.
Maybe a few obvious Coronavirus deaths have not even recorded because of political reasons.

in contrast ,in Italy,for example, if a patient dies,and it is found out they have Coronavirus they will be recorded as a Coronavirus death . This might be one additional factor win why Italy's Coronavirus death rate has been so high.


The poster afako posted the article below,last month, in this thread ,but I think it is worth reposting.

In it the scientific advisor to the Italy's ministry of health gave his thoughts::


"Of the 63,927 people confirmed coronavirus patients in Italy, 6,077 so far have died. By contrast China has many more cases, 81,496, but 3,274 fatalities.

In very crude terms, this means that around nine per cent of confirmed coronavirus patients have died in Italy, compared to four per cent in China
. By this measure Germany, which has so far identified 28,865 cases and 118 deaths, has a fatality rate of just 0.4 per cent.

So why the disparity?

……………......…..

[Prof Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, added that Italy’s death rate appears high] because of how doctors record fatalities.

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says. ""

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-Italy/
There is another thing to consider also- how many are actually tested. If few tests are conducted and hence the total undiagnosed/mild cases/unreported cases are high, death rate from corona will appear high. But if testing is more widespread as in Germany, then it will bring down death rate.

Many ppl here think UK/USA is testing more than India. That's not true. Test positivity is 4% in India,. Ie India is testing 100 people to find 4 positive cases. But for UK it is 18% USA it is 16% , that is UK/USA is testing four times lower number of patients than India
 

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what difference it make if a person is tested or not..? Since there is nothing a doctor can do about it.? Now I understand about spreading but my question is only about testing and death relations.?
 

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Global hatred for Chinese is now at an all time high. The coming boycott will destroy the Chinese economy while the rest of the world starts recovering!

Covid-19 is the beginning of the end of CCP and it has become a huge PR disaster for China while its becoming a great PR success for Indian Soft Power from the worldwide export of Hydroxychloroquine.

Would Trump really promote HCQS without adequate medical advice and destroy his reputation unless he was shown evidence of its effectiveness by US experts? why would there be suddenly so much global demand for it ?

Why did India completely ban it's export initially? and why would 30+ nations approach Modi requesting for an urgent waiver ?

Fact is Many liberals and those who suffer from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), an irrational hatred of Trump, started questioning the efficacy of chloroquine/HCQS just because Trump promoted it.

Many US libtard governers like in New York and Michigan banned it and now started begging for it after having the worst pandemic explosion.

It's effectiveness in treatment of the 'corona' family of viruses has been proved since 2005 SARS outbreak.

It attacks the glycoprotein production of the virus and inhibits further spread of infection.

It has now been used with great results in S Korea and by New York Doctor Zelenko who was healing covid patients within a week before he was forbidden from using it by Democrat libtard governer.

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...YpU71KE4bQjeNkliz5od66HDC40SUt-gFGetFrpmIDJxU

The drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection.
ICMR has recommended against HCQs for Corona infection now.


Since when did majority opinion on something makes it the truth? Since majority of world population are Christians, you should all convert to Christianity then?


The reason India banned the exports initially was to counteract the panic buying by other countries and to have adequate supplies locally. That was an impulse decision. And it was taken by bureaucrats. If you would rather trust bureaucrats than scientists and doctors to treat your infection, be my guest and take chloroquine


Never mind that people like me and scentists are the actual experts of the disease, virus, the drug while you arm chair experts' knowledge of it comes from googling some bs in the internet, your opinion is more right because more people believe you :lol:
 

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Nothing wrong in that. In fact, we are not gloating enough. Only if we rub it in the faces of vile white filth in UK/USA will the poverty porn they sing wrt india will slow down.

Considering that we went from being a nation of slaves to surpassing the white trash in UK in 75yrs, we have every right to do it
I don’t believe in bragging bro.
Lets our work do the talking. Braggarts are generally losers.
 

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