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SFs are 5000 in number. Equipped like an African militia.

Ghataks and Infantry, especially along LoC are well enough equipped. Especially bns od MLI, Gorkha regiments and Assam Rifles.. They are bettering their equipment and more importantly training by the day. Nothing to worry at all there.

But yeah, you're right BSF needs to get rid of UPSC. Also a Commando unit will be a force multiplier.
BSF already has a commando unit, but they operate in Sir Creek area, but what exactly did you mean?
 

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US Air Force testing Boston Dynamics robots, when you have too much money you can try shiet like that:

For those who want to know more about this 'petnoid' bot, watch this:
Pretty cool, now think armies using the video below in war:
Not now, but maybe 5 to 10 years more and we will have this kinda humanoid robots. Like UCAV/UAV but on the ground and more manoeuvrable than normal ones.
Not possible, not even in next 100 years.
 

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BSF already has a commando unit, but they operate in Sir Creek area, but what exactly did you mean?
I think he means develope BSF like how US did with marine corps. Not in a sense that they will Carry out marintime operations but emulate the structure and spirit of marine corps to build a force that is self sufficient in defending the Indian borders against all threats during peace time and hold the border during War, the army can take the role of Offensive while BSF plays the defence.
Also Bring everything related to defence under a single roof (Our own Pentagon)

Seperate MOD from South Block and bring it somewhere more natural like Madhya Pradesh. Reduce the no of babus and increse militray officers.
Everything from Army, Navy, Air force, Special force command, CRPF, BSF, Coast Guard, Paramilitary, DRDO, Pvt sector and PSU representatives under one roof.

Only down side being it will increase the chance of coup.
 

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I think he means develope BSF like how US did with marine corps. Not in a sense that they will Carry out marintime operations but emulate the structure and spirit of marine corps to build a force that is self sufficient in defending the Indian borders against all threats during peace time and hold the border during War, the army can take the role of Offensive while BSF plays the defence.
Also Bring everything related to defence under a single roof (Our own Pentagon)

Seperate MOD from South Block and bring it somewhere more natural like Madhya Pradesh. Reduce the no of babus and increse militray officers.
Everything from Army, Navy, Air force, Special force command, CRPF, BSF, Coast Guard, Paramilitary, DRDO, Pvt sector and PSU representatives under one roof.

Only down side being it will increase the chance of coup.
Coup isn't gonna happen. No one would want 1 billion people against them.
 

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Are Pararescuemen different from Paratroopers, how are they different from each other??
Paratroopers at their base level are just infantry who have an extra method of entry to an objective.
NATO style PJ's (USAF PJ's, 17th Stormo Raiders, CPA 30 air commandos etc) are fully trained SOF.

They get the full training in small unit and special tactics, MFF, diver, amphib/small boat handling etc plus technical and mechanical rescue trained, you know advanced ropes, jaws of life stuff etc, on top of that they are fully certificated Paramedics....usually the basic qual course to fully join a CSAR/PJ team is 2+ years.
 

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In the US/Europe they'll often attach guys to local major hospitals for a few weeks/months to get a first hand looks and hands on training in stuff you just can't simulate accurately.
 

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I think he means develope BSF like how US did with marine corps. Not in a sense that they will Carry out marintime operations but emulate the structure and spirit of marine corps to build a force that is self sufficient in defending the Indian borders against all threats during peace time and hold the border during War, the army can take the role of Offensive while BSF plays the defence.
Also Bring everything related to defence under a single roof (Our own Pentagon)

Seperate MOD from South Block and bring it somewhere more natural like Madhya Pradesh. Reduce the no of babus and increse militray officers.
Everything from Army, Navy, Air force, Special force command, CRPF, BSF, Coast Guard, Paramilitary, DRDO, Pvt sector and PSU representatives under one roof.

Only down side being it will increase the chance of coup.
Yeah, No its not gonna happen!! Sometimes separate Armed Force having autonomous is gonna yield better results!! Forces under MHA is better equipped than Forces under MoD, due to easier procurement process and full autonomy! It's better this way, plus bringing everything under one roof is not advisable, plus we don't have Pentagon like resources for that. Only during times of war it's possible to bring everything under roof and under one command for easier communication.
 

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U think I billion people will be agaisnt militray, people are fed up off polictians coup will be welcomed with open arms
No, I don't think so. It mostly depends on how they administer. If it is good, then fine. If not, then no.
 

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No no, it will make BSF make more Incompetent!!!!!
Any armed force under MHA is better equipped than the military due to better and easier procurement process!! Hence the reason why we see all CAPFs with better gear and better results!! If we want to improve BSF's capability, we can make BSF only concentrate on Indo-paki border and create a new border force for Indo-ban border.
If anything, what we can do is bring the BSF battalions near the border under Army’s control, but not the entire organisation!!
There should be a separate CAPF force for each of the border. One force for Indo-Bangladesh Border, Another for Indo-Myanmar Border which will help withdraw the Assam Rifles to do internal operations in the Northeast and one for Coastal Areas to support Indian Coast guard and local police.
 
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There should be separate CAPF force for each of the border. One force for Indo-Bangladesh, Another for Indo-Myanmar Border and one for Coastal Areas.
No, the opposite. ITBP and SSB should be merged into BSF. Makes logistics and standardization easier. And Myanmar border and Coast come under Assam Rifles and Coast Guard respectively. Under MoD.
 

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There should be separate CAPF force for each of the border. One force for Indo-Bangladesh, Another for Indo-Myanmar Border and one for Coastal Areas.
Yes!!! Assam Rifles is a paramilitary force and is the only paramilitary force in the country. I don't know why a paramilitary organisation is used as a border force??
Most important Indo-ban border should get a new border force ASAP. Just switch the BSF battalions in bangladeshi border to make a new force!!
 

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No, the opposite. ITBP and SSB should be merged into BSF. Makes logistics and standardization easier. And Myanmar border and Coast come under Assam Rifles and Coast Guard respectively. Under MoD.
MAN... Pls for godsake!!! They are better as they are, we don't want to crowd more organisation into one which is gonna make things more incompetent!!! Different forces concentrating on one particular thing, with different leadership and command, yields better results!!! There is a reason why USA after 9/11 spit law enforcement agencies into various jobs and not under one roof!!
 

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MAN... Pls for godsake!!! They are better as they are, we don't want to crowd more organisation into one which is gonna make things more incompetent!!! Different forces concentrating on one particular thing, with different leadership and command, yields better results!!! There is a reason why USA after 9/11 spit law enforcement agencies into various jobs and not under one roof!!
Yep Indian CAPFs, Railway Police and Forest Police can all be considered equivalent to a US Federal Law Enforcement Agency.
 

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Yep Indian CAPFs can be considered equivalent to a US Federal Law Enforcement Force.
Do you know how many federal law enforcement agencies are there under Department of Homeland Security alone?? They split up and concentrate on one particular field so perfectly, so much so there has been drastic decrease in terrorism, drug smuggling, etc
 

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Do you know how many federal law enforcement agencies are there under Department of Homeland Security alone?? They split up and concentrate on one particular field so perfectly, so much so there has been drastic decrease in terrorism, drug smuggling, etc
There are multiple Law Enforcement Agencies under each of the US Executive Departments which are equivalent to Indian Ministries.
 
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