What if the American decline never happens?

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Obama Calls for More Redistribution of Wealth, Declaring: 'I Am My Brother's Keeper' | CNS News I stand with Obama, so do most americans.

"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey


"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi


It looks like India has failed.
You are being swayed by jingoism. 4 years under Obama's care, what've you got to show? How many jobs did he provide? How many families did he pull out of poverty? The day this Magic Negro leaves office you will realise that he has left America in a bigger quagmire than even Bush. You people are trying to kill your goose that lays golden eggs. The path to salvation lies in hard work not laziness. Maybe your people should start cutting down on junk food and start exercising then, so many wouldn't die without Obama's medical plan.
 

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I still have faith in CIA, that perhaps they will assassinate him, or Congress that they will vote for Impeachment, or perhaps military will end his reign.

Or we can all sleep well, he is just a socialist, socialists are know today from their incompetence in everything. ;)

Afterall if you look in to Obama eyes, you will not see a great men, great intelectual, he have intelect of a Lemming. ;)
The first three outcomes you mention, even impeachment, would be a disaster for the USA. Obama will be brought down by his own hubris, because his own people can't tell him the truth..
 

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Yes. The 800 million are lazy, stupid and weak. Not all at the same time. Some are lazy, some stupid and some week. Why else do you think they are such laggards? But since you are ranting about the Indian situation so much, it's time for a reality check.
We have plenty of rags to riches tycoons here. The father of the richest man, Mukesh Ambani, Dhirubhai Ambani, was a lowly wage worker at a petrol pump. Mittal, MD of Airtel was a bicycle shop mechanic. There are too many instances to enumerate all. Except for the few business families in India, most of the rich is coming from middle class and some poor backgrounds. India, during Independence was an impoverished nation. From there to here, a nuclear power nation with growth rates second to China, couldn't have been done without the help of some brilliant entrepreneurs who came from modest backgrounds. India being the socialist country it is, would have become another North Korea, for the sheer size of its population alone. We've been to the edge and back, so heed our warning, do not go down the path that Obama is taking you. Only sorrow lies for America at the end of that path.
Among those people are many that would be great but they never will because they will never have the chance. Indias Shakespeare, Caesar,Einstein, Newton, Columbus, maybe even a Buddha, but they will never have a chance to find out because they will never have the opportunity. What keeps India so poor is the wealth is in just the hands of a few. Indias poverty level is 45 cents a day.
 

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The first three outcomes you mention, even impeachment, would be a disaster for the USA. Obama will be brought down by his own hubris, because his own people can't tell him the truth..

Obama already won his second and last term as your President, I don't know how he can be brought down from his post sans impeachment... :rolleyes:
 
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I wonder if a lot of people here dont like him because hes black and they are racist. Aren't Indians the most racist of people on this planet? | sandipb.net
That's the most cheapest way to defend Obama. Even Obama would be ashamed of people like you. Obama is a very astute and able man. There are a lot more ways to defend him. There is no need to stoop to that level. If you can't convince people just leave it, it's not your job anyway. So what If a lot of people dislike Obama, everyone's entitled to their opinion, no ?
 
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Obama already won his second and last term as your President, I don't know how he can be brought down from his post sans impeachment... :rolleyes:
Your response indicates you don't have a clue to what I said.
 

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Your incessant babble is tedious. You are barely literate. But, then that is typical of the Cult of Obama.

You must have a very hard childhood Mr. Ewald. You can tell us about it... :sarcastic:

But this session will not change the fact that Obama won and your tired hateful ideas about him have been debunked by your countrymen. So go chill out man...
 

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Estimated by whom? Who made those absurd claims? As for Obama's four years, 8 million jobs have been lost.

And you ignored this question:



Try to come up with an answer.
When making a statement about job loss during President Obama's administration one should also take into account the spill over effect from the policies of President Clinton and President Bush. I wonder what a Republican President would have different to stem the job loss. Every country was riding the Asian train and blind eye turned towards the shenanigans of the financial industry. In my opinion with the advent of 3D or additive technology we in North America will see a boom in the manufacturing jobs which will create a domino effect on the service industry. This time around we will be able to retain the jobs created locally.
 

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When making a statement about job loss during President Obama's administration one should also take into account the spill over effect from the policies of President Clinton and President Bush. I wonder what a Republican President would have different to stem the job loss. Every country was riding the Asian train and blind eye turned towards the shenanigans of the financial industry. In my opinion with the advent of 3D or additive technology we in North America will see a boom in the manufacturing jobs which will create a domino effect on the service industry. This time around we will be able to retain the jobs created locally.
The cost of two wars did not help any either.
 

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Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than Bush Created In Eight

This morning, the Labor Department released its employment data for December, showing that the U.S. economy ended the year by adding 113,000 private sector jobs, knocking the unemployment rate down sharply from 9.8 percent to 9.4 percent — its lowest rate since July 2009. The "surprising drop — which was far better than the modest step-down economists had forecast — was the steepest one-month fall since 1998." October and November's jobs numbers were also revised upward by almost 80,000 each. Still, 14.5 million Americans remain unemployed, and jobs will have to be created much faster in coming months for the country to pull itself out of the economic doldrums.

Responding the jobs report, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) noted that President Obama and the Democratic Congress have created "more jobs in 2010 than President Bush did over eight years."

Indeed, from February 2001, Bush's first full month in office, through January 2009, his last, the economy added just 1 million jobs. By contrast, in 2010 alone, the economy added at least 1.1 million jobs. This chart, produced by Pelosi's office, demonstrates the difference between the Bush administration and the Obama administration on jobs:
Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than Bush Created In Eight | ThinkProgress
 

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Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than Bush Created In Eight

This morning, the Labor Department released its employment data for December, showing that the U.S. economy ended the year by adding 113,000 private sector jobs, knocking the unemployment rate down sharply from 9.8 percent to 9.4 percent — its lowest rate since July 2009. The "surprising drop — which was far better than the modest step-down economists had forecast — was the steepest one-month fall since 1998." October and November's jobs numbers were also revised upward by almost 80,000 each. Still, 14.5 million Americans remain unemployed, and jobs will have to be created much faster in coming months for the country to pull itself out of the economic doldrums.

Responding the jobs report, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) noted that President Obama and the Democratic Congress have created "more jobs in 2010 than President Bush did over eight years."

Indeed, from February 2001, Bush's first full month in office, through January 2009, his last, the economy added just 1 million jobs. By contrast, in 2010 alone, the economy added at least 1.1 million jobs. This chart, produced by Pelosi's office, demonstrates the difference between the Bush administration and the Obama administration on jobs:
Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than Bush Created In Eight | ThinkProgress
It seems valid that people like @W.G.Ewald calls you illiterate. When you cannot interpret numbers using own brain then why quote them?

Here is the thing, Bush period had a low unemployment rate that there was almost no chance to create jobs. Unemployment was well below 6%, so now tell me who would need to create more jobs--Bush(unemployment < 6%) or Obama(unemployment > 9%)?
check yourself: United States Unemployment Rate

Choose the period you want to look at and refresh the data. And put some analysis before posting news article, because if journalists were smarter they all would not be journalists.
 
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The facts is Bush reduced taxs, engaged in two wars and a massive bailout of banks to prevent economic collapse, on the job side toward the end of his administration theire was job losses of epic proportions. With out these blunders Obama defict woudl have been about one trillion rather then 5 trillion.

Take a look at the job loss rate when Bush left office and the job rate loss decline when Obama took office. Political Irony › Jobs lost under Bush v. Obama





W.G.Ewald is a classic typical republicans here, poor people deserve what they get (so let's just let 'em starve or die from lack of health care), black people are lazy and immoral (which is why they're all poor), and women (especially black women) are screwing up the world with their sluttiness..
As a person that considers them self a decent careing human being I cant support the Romney/Ryan Republican ticket, If you add the estimated 50,000 deaths due to lack of health care to the other vital social services that the Ryan Budget would eliminate or reduce such as nurseing home care, medicade, you could be looking at the death of up to million people over two four year terms. The bottom line is when you deny sick people healthcare because they don't have enough money to pay for it you are indirectly committing an act of murder.

Considering what Obama inherited from Bush I think he has done an incredible good job.
 

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