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[tfxkaanf23]

Will it have actual engine R&D or peripheral & supporting R&D? There are many large design 7 R&D centres of Intel & even GE in India but neither has actually helped India in developing its own physical product of chipset or engine. Yes, it does improve skillsets in design & gives slightly more indepth knowledge for engineers who can then be recruited by government R&D agencies but their knowledge is limited to non critical technology

This is the thing. They will not share critical technologies of course. But you can use them for your own projects. Like TUSAŞ uses its Malaysia and Indonesia r and d center for non critical parts. Or as tei uses ge Türkiye for non critical areas. A company if it does not produce an engine on its own, it may not have necessary number of engineers. It should have use its own experienced engineers for critical parts and for non critical parts it can use other r and d institutes like ge Türkiye. They may also help your new engineers to gain experience and you can use that engineers later.
And if you pay enough,you can get their chief engineers to your own companies.

 

[tfxkaanf23]

Look inbred retard , you were the ones claiming you would be developing INDIGENOUSLY " the 5th Gen Turbo Fan for your 5th Gen FA " in 4 YEARS.

When asked how , you claimed your program was already in the making for 10 years .

When asked to demonstrate proof of it , you came up with how you were manufacturing aircraft engine components. When pointed out there was nothing special in what you did & even Mexico was involved in such programs , you came up with GE having their LARGEST development centre in the world based in Turkiye.

When it was pointed out that India hosts the largest such development centre in the world for all the products they manufacture in the world , you've now come up with this latest canard about GE looking after non critical work whereas Turkish scientists working for your government or any of the government contracted defence contractors are now working on the core project with non essential programs being handled by GE.

In between you had claimed that you were receiving help from Ivchenko - Progress for design. Well , bad news for you Mehmet , Ivchenko has yet to produce low bypass high performance TFs for even 3rd Gen FAs leave aside 5th Gen FAs. Up until now their expertise is in developing High bypass TFs for civil airliners , Turboprops , Turboshafts & Turbojets .

The only low bypass TFs they've developed are low performance ones with a maximum output of 42 KN wet thrust good enough to power Light Fighter Aircrafts (FAs) & Trainers like Dhurrjet.

Show us the core that Turkiye has come up with in the 10 years it has been developing the 5th Gen TF & show us the MoU that your defence contractor responsible for developing the 5th Gen FA or your Presidency of Defence has entered into with GE for handling peripheral work related to your 5th Gen TF .

Something like this

The Kabini core which underwent its first test way back in 1995 .

https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/kaveri-core-engine-kabini

GTRE GTX-35VS Kaveri - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or be prepared to have your posts consigned to the Jokes thread

Are you unable to understand??
10-12 years ago national jet engine projects started and engineers from abroad has been brought. They first started working on ts-1400 and developed it's crystal turbine blades. Later they have started working on tf-6000 ,and later tf35k project has been started.
Have you understood now? Should I need to elaborate more?
Yes ukranians do not have proper engine that we need,that is why we did not order from ukraninas!!
They give engineering support, and in advisor status as well.
We will not wait much,just wait 4 more years. We will see who is right.

 

[Azaad]

Are you unable to understand??
10-12 years ago national jet engine projects started and engineers from abroad has been brought. They first started working on ts-1400 and developed it's crystal turbine blades. Later they have started working on tf-6000 ,and later tf35k project has been started.
Have you understood now? Should I need to elaborate more?
Yes ukranians do not have proper engine that we need,that is why we did not order from ukraninas!!
They give engineering support, and in advisor status as well.
We will not wait much,just wait 4 more years. We will see who is right.

Mehmet , Mehmet , you seem upset enough to burst an aneurysm in your knee which is where your inbred brains are. Let's cut the chase , shall we ?

Something like this

The Kabini core which underwent its first test way back in 1995 .


https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/kaveri-core-engine-kabini

GTRE GTX-35VS Kaveri - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or be prepared to have your posts consigned to the Jokes thread

In order to test the TF in 4 years , the core ought to be ready . Where's it ?

Your TS 1400 & TF 6000 are all copies of Ivchenko - Progress products. The same reason you'd have a power plant to run your Dhurrjet & the only reason you're still struggling to get your 5th Gen TF project off the ground .

 

[tfxkaanf23]

Mehmet , Mehmet , you seem upset enough to burst an aneurysm in your knee which is where your inbred brains are. Let's cut the chase , shall we ?




In order to test the TF in 4 years , the core ought to be ready . Where's it ?

Your TS 1400 & TF 6000 are all copies of Ivchenko - Progress products. The same reason you'd have a power plant to run your Dhurrjet & the only reason you're still struggling to get your 5th Gen TF project off the ground .

Ts-1400 and tf6000 have no ukranian hand, no ukranian tech. You may want to believe otherwise, but they have no ukranian input

 

[Azaad]

Are you unable to understand??
10-12 years ago national jet engine projects started and engineers from abroad has been brought. They first started working on ts-1400 and developed it's crystal turbine blades. Later they have started working on tf-6000 ,and later tf35k project has been started.
Have you understood now? Should I need to elaborate more?
Yes ukranians do not have proper engine that we need,that is why we did not order from ukraninas!!
They give engineering support, and in advisor status as well.
We will not wait much,just wait 4 more years. We will see who is right.

Here's your own Mehmut Aksit saying why it'd take 15-20 yrs for you to develop a TF-35K claiming he'd try to get it down to 10 yrs & this is a 5th Gen TF we're talking about .

Earlier you weren't even aware the TF-6000 was a dry thrust TF with NO AFTER BURNER. That'd be the TF-10000. You've just started testing the TF-6000. We've no doubt it'd perform satisfactorily. Why? Silly question Mehmet. After all it's a copy of one of the Ivchenko - Progress designed ~ 27 KN dry thrust TF.

When you mate the After Burner you get ~ 42 KN wet thrust which is again based on the Ivchenko - Progress TF & what your TF-10000 is all about .

If you think it's a cake walk to jump ahead onto ~ 82 KN dry thrust / ~ 140 KN wet thrust which is somewhat where your requirements of the TF-35K is & that too within 10 years, good luck for you'd be the first country in the known universe to achieve this leap.

Even Pratt & Whitney in the US with it's experience of ~ 80 years is struggling to develop a successor to the F-135. Perhaps the US ought to consult Turkiye in this matter for Mehmut Aksit & his team without having YET built a successful TF is now confident of building a 5th Gen T-35K TF that too within 10 years according to him & 4 years according to you, Mehmet & we've yet to see the core of the TF.

The Messy Battle to Build the F-35's Next Engine

The Lightning II needs a new engine—badly. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

www.popularmechanics.com

 

[tfxkaanf23]

Here's your own Mehmut Aksit saying why it'd take 15-20 yrs for you to develop a TF-35K claiming he'd try to get it down to 10 yrs & this is a 5th Gen TF we're talking about .

Earlier you weren't even aware the TF-6000 was a dry thrust TF with NO AFTER BURNER. That'd be the TF-10000. You've just started testing the TF-6000. We've no doubt it'd perform satisfactorily. Why? Silly question Mehmet. After all it's a copy of one of the Ivchenko - Progress designed ~ 27 KN dry thrust TF.

When you mate the After Burner you get ~ 42 KN wet thrust which is again based on the Ivchenko - Progress TF & what your TF-10000 is all about .

If you think it's a cake walk to jump ahead onto ~ 82 KN dry thrust / ~ 140 KN wet thrust which is somewhat where your requirements of the TF-35K is & that too within 10 years, good luck for you'd be the first country in the known universe to achieve this leap.

Even Pratt & Whitney in the US with it's experience of ~ 80 years is struggling to develop a successor to the F-135. Perhaps the US ought to consult Turkiye in this matter for Mehmut Aksit & his team without having YET built a successful TF is now confident of building a 5th Gen T-35K TF that too within 10 years according to him & 4 years according to you, Mehmet & we've yet to see the core of the TF.

The Messy Battle to Build the F-35's Next Engine

The Lightning II needs a new engine—badly. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

www.popularmechanics.com

Later Mahmut akşit said they need 8-10 years. Hence from 2021,you can count.
When you have tf6000 ,this means tf35k also achievable. Tf10k will be ready next year for testing on bench.

 

[Azaad]

Later Mahmut akşit said they need 8-10 years. Hence from 2021,you can count.
When you have tf6000 ,this means tf35k also achievable. Tf10k will be ready next year for testing on bench.

Excellent , when is P&W tying up with Turkiye for developmental work on the successor to the F-135 TF . Do let us know Mehmet. Besides what're your plans for the 6th Gen FA program?

Announcement in 2030 & first flight by 2035 along with a brand new 6th Gen TF which is still under development which in turn will be unveiled to the world at large in 2032 perhaps?

BTW any photographs of your 5th Gen TF core? What about a copy of the workshare agreement between Turkiye & GE for your T-35K TF?

This is the 4th time I'm asking you.

 

[tfxkaanf23]

Excellent , when is P&W tying up with Turkiye for developmental work on the successor to the F-135 TF . Do let us know Mehmet. Besides what're your plans for the 6th Gen FA program?

Announcement in 2030 & first flight by 2035 along with a brand new 6th Gen TF which is still under development which in turn will be unveiled to the world at large in 2032 perhaps?

BTW any photographs of your 5th Gen TF core? What about a copy of the workshare agreement between Turkiye & GE for your T-35K TF?

This is the 4th time I'm asking you.

Should I have photos or 3d drawings of Tf35k? It is critical project, why would anyone other than project engineers have it? Even tf6000 photos published by tei 2 years ago.
We may see 2-3 years later earliest.
You may see video of GE aerospace turkey opening in the previous page . In that video, last seconds you may see ge Türkiye responsibilities. Even in the video, engineer talks about it to industry minister but they cut video not to give more details.

 

[Azaad]

Should I have photos or 3d drawings of Tf35k? It is critical project, why would anyone other than project engineers have it? Even tf6000 photos published by tei 2 years ago.
We may see 2-3 years later earliest.
You may see video of GE aerospace turkey opening in the previous page . In that video, last seconds you may see ge Türkiye responsibilities. Even in the video, engineer talks about it to industry minister but they cut video not to give more details.

What's so critical & secretive about a photograph of the core or even a GA drawing of it , Mehmet? Even the US had a partial unveiling of its super secretive B-21 Raider.

Is your project more secretive & vital than that one or is it that you're still in the process of fabricating the core?

If we can see in the closing stages of the video the responsibilities of GE Turkiye then surely we can see the MoU entered into by both parties assuming the agreement would have a lot of confidential stuff in it. Where's it Mehmet?

Does it even exist or did Sultan Erdogan issue oral orders for GE to comply with the Presidency of Defence's request?

 

[tfxkaanf23]

3 milgem class ships will be exported to Malaysia.
They will house 8 roketsan atmaca SSM and 16 Korean anti air missiles

All 3 will be delivered in 3.5 years and all will be built in Türkiye.

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

3 milgem class ships will be exported to Malaysia.
They will house 8 roketsan atmaca SSM and 16 Korean anti air missiles

All 3 will be delivered in 3.5 years and all will be built in Türkiye.

the anti air capabilities are a lil weak but overall a good ship iirc the K-SAAM Has 20km max range which is quite low tbh but

 

[tfxkaanf23]

the anti air capabilities are a lil weak but overall a good ship iirc the K-SAAM Has 20km max range which is quite low tbh but

Malaysian defense analysts say that Korean missile is not certain, Italian , french or even Turkish hisar quadpackable hisar d block 2 also still under consideration.
The important point is that all ships will be built in private istanbul shipyard.
So instead of need, at the same time 8-10 ships in milgems size can be built in Türkiye.
Since Ukrainian ones are being built in private rmk marine shipyard, Turkish I class serial production being built in tais shipyards, Turkish hisar class being built in private dearsan shipyard and Pakistani ships are being built in Istanbul naval shipyard command.

See details below for ongoing military ships in size of milgems and bigger than milgems,

-2 in rmk marine for Ukraine
-2 in Istanbul shipyard command (+2 in Pakistani shipyard) for Pakistan
-2 hisar class in Istanbul shipyard command for Turkish navy
-3+4 I class ships in tais shipyards for Turkish navy
-4 hisar class in private dearsan shipyard for Turkish navy
-3 milgems class in private Istanbul shipyard for Malaysian navy

 

[tfxkaanf23]

Beauty of Istanbul class in Istanbul strait

 

[tfxkaanf23]

MKEK has completed tests of 18 units Boran 105mm helicopter portable howitzers in front of Bangladesh delegate just before delivery to Bangladesh. MKEK is state company responsible of production of light guns, unguided rockets, 76 mm naval gun, 120mm tank gun, tank ammunition,chemicals for missiles etc.

Last year it has export figure of around 450 milllion USD

 

[tfxkaanf23]

ASELSAN Tolun hits it's target under gps jamming area. Tolun is like a American small diameter bomb (sdb). It's iir guidance variant also exists


ASELSAN piri infrared research and track system for warships. It is a passive sensor for warships defense and situational awareness.

ASELSAN cenk aesa naval 4d radar. It has a range of 400+ km

 

[FalconSlayers]

Osmani ice-cream firing tank scaring the infidels!

 

[Samej Jangir]

Osmani ice-cream firing tank scaring the infidels!

Why did Turkey suddenly get obsessed with India?

 

[Blademaster]

Why did Turkey suddenly get obsessed with India?

because we made fun of them.

 

[ezsasa]

Why did Turkey suddenly get obsessed with India?

when niazi was pak pm, erdagon was planning a coup on saudi dominance on ummah by creating a mini OIC along with mahatir of malaysia. so naturally primary condition for pak diplomatic co-operation is anti-India stance on kashmir. so during that time GoI improved relationship with greece, turkey and greece have a territorial dispute over cyprus. saudis realised these attempts at coup and shut it down.

that hangover shows up in turkish media.

 

[tfxkaanf23]

It seems baykar company will produce engines for tb2 and Kızılelma.
It invested 250 million USD for r and d in 2023 alone.



ASELSAN will produce 25mm and 30mm versions of it's 35 mm system. So they will able to be installed on smaller platforms such as 4*4 and 6*6.
Additionally, ASELSAN ceo mentioned that korkut system has been exported and will be delivered soon. This export country could be Ukraine,we may see korkut engaging Russian missiles and Russian drones soon