Turkey shot down Russian Su 24

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The area where this took place has zero ISIS presence. Russia was fighting dictator Asaad's battles for him and bombing Turkmen villages. Turkey warned the russians 10 times as the SU24 was in a holding pattern crossing territory. It was only after that Turkey shot down a hostile fighter illegally encroaching, as is it's sovereign right. Turkey has promptly released all radar data and the truth is clearly on its side. Regardless of how you feel about ISIS (which is not even relevant to this incident), it's obvious that Turkey cannot be faulted.

The turks also feel great affinity for their ethnic kin across Russia and central asia. After how Russia treated the indigenous people of Crimea (who happen to be Turkic Tatars), there is bad blood between russia and turkey. Turkey could, in the snap of a finger, turn all the turkic central asian ex-USSR countries against Russia.
They forget about them for 300+ years and they all ready integrated in society . They are different Turks ,they are secular and over 70 year of soviet union developed those area ,these area have no loyalty to Turkey.When there was a civil war in these are did turkey come to help .The answer is no.Turkey has no friends in Central Asia.By they way they are more close to Mongolia .
 

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Russian jet hit inside Syria after incursion into Turkey: U.S. official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States believes that the Russian jet shot down by Turkey on Tuesday was hit inside Syrian airspace after a brief incursion into Turkish airspace, a U.S. official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The official said that assessment was based on detection of the heat signature of the jet.


https://news.yahoo.com/russian-jet-hit-inside-syria-incursion-turkey-u-010811956.html
 

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In 2012, when a Turkish air force plane was shot down for violating Syrian airspace, PM Erdogan said, "A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack."

Mr Erdogan spoke of Turkey's "rage" at the decision to shoot down the F-4 Phantom on 22 June and described Syria as a "clear and present threat".

"A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack," he said. The Turkish jet was on a training flight, testing Turkey's radars in the eastern Mediterranean, he said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-18584872
 

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Russia to deploy S 400 in Syria confirmed by RT .Looks like a no fly zone for Turkey
They stopped cyprus from having S-300. Now, they got themselves S-400 right on their ass ready to get a whoop ass.Now, lets see how many tin can F-16's come near the Syrian border or hit the Kurdish.
 

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if turkey stare the russian down they can lead the islam ... no stopping them in their eyes. and if they join with pakistan that would make it nuclear caliphate. saudi would be in the middle like a triangle of love.
 

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http://missilethreat.com/s-300-natos-nightmare-and-perhaps-russias-too/

Part of the article:
If – or when – the S-300 arrives in Syria it will be a landmark moment. For the first time in the history of the Middle East, an Arab nation will have the ability to shoot down Israeli aircraft over Israel. An S-300 missile fired from Damascus will blow away an aircraft over central Tel Aviv in about 107 seconds, giving the Israelis virtually no reaction time.

To the Israeli Defence Forces, this is an unacceptable escalation. Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon warned: “The shipments haven’t set out yet and I hope they won’t. If they do arrive in Syria, god forbid, we’ll know what to do.”

Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister, Sergey Ryabkov, shot back that the delivery of the missiles would be a stabilising factor that could dissuade “some hotheads” from entering the conflict.

The danger for Israel here is it could easily fall into the “flak trap”. In fact, it was the huge number of sorties conducted to suppress SAM systems that led to the high attrition rate of American and Israeli aircraft four decades ago.

@SajeevJino :
If this article has credibility, then you of all people here in DFI should be angry at Turkey for directly causing the S-300 to enter in the Middle Eastern theater.
 

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Can somebody tell me the air-defence range of the Fort System on the Moskva class missile cruiser? I hear that the Fort System is like the S-300. Does it cover Incirlik from Latakia?
Range only 90 km? So, it probably does not cover Incirlik?
I guess not.

But then again wiki cannot be fully trusted for accuracy.

And there is also version fort-M, with longer range(150km as per wiki), but apparently not on Moskva.

Distance b/w Latakia and Incirlik AFB, seems to be 150-160km.
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To answer the initial question once again; as per this RT article:

The Moskva cruiser, stationed in Latakia as part of the military buildup, is a 11,500-ton, 186-meter warship serving as part of the Russian Black Sea fleet. In addition to anti-ship missiles, anti-submarine mortars and torpedoes, it has 64 Fort missiles, the naval version of the S-300 long-range air defense system. The missiles can engage targets at a range of up to 150km, which is enough to cover all of southern Turkey from Latakia.
https://www.rt.com/news/323385-russia-missile-cruiser-latakia/

Apparently syria will get s-400 now.
 
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@SajeevJino :
If this article has credibility, then you of all people here in DFI should be angry at Turkey for directly causing the S-300 to enter in the Middle Eastern theater.
The Naval version of S 300 already in Syria. this is not new. even once Israeli jets destroyed arms cache close to Damascus .. yet nothing happened .. we once back in 2013 discussed about that ...You're new here I think .. The discussions are somewhere in the Syrian crisis thread
 

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but su - 24 is tech from 60's,
its not modern or stealth aircraft,
it does not even look good air combat jet but more like ground attack or jaguar kind of aircraft.
Your peoples once claimed the Su 24 M2 even blinded the USS Donald Cook's AN/SPY 1 Radar

and the Su 24M2 is something newly upgraded with modern systems..
 

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They stopped cyprus from having S-300. Now, they got themselves S-400 right on their ass ready to get a whoop ass.Now, lets see how many tin can F-16's come near the Syrian border or hit the Kurdish.
They will continue their CAP missions same like yesterday
 

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