Sukhoi Su 30MKI

[Armand2REP]

PAF is in discussion with vendors to upgrade F-16 with AESA. Likely SABR from NG.

I don't think the US wants to give China access to its AESA technology.

 

[Wisemarko]

I don't think the US wants to give China access to its AESA technology.

There are US personnel deployed in Pakistan to protect sensitive US technology. Sale wouldn’t be an issue.

 

[Armand2REP]

There are US personnel deployed in Pakistan to protect sensitive US technology. Sale wouldn’t be an issue.

They can't even keep count of how many F-16s they have. There are no personnel deployed there watching Cold War relics.

 

[Wisemarko]

They can't even keep count of how many F-16s they have. There are no personnel deployed there watching Cold War relics.

You should not state things without information. US has permanent deployment in Pakistan to enforce “end use monitoring.”
https://www.luke.af.mil/News/Articl...el-award-for-security-of-paf-f-16-technology/

A Luke Airman was recognized in his efforts for excelling above and beyond in his career while working alongside the Pakistani Air Force (PAF), continuously monitoring the PAF F-16 Fighting Falcon’s advanced technology.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein presented the 2018 Air Force International Affairs (IA) Excellence Award to Master Sgt. Kyle Wilson, 56th Equipment Maintenance Squadron phase section chief, at the Air Force Association Opening and Award Ceremony Sept. 16, 2019, in Washington, D.C.

The award recognizes one Airman annually for their exceptional and innovative contributions that had the greatest impact in IA, supporting the efforts in sustaining, increasing and guiding the U.S. Air Force partner-to-partner foreign air force relationships.

Wilson was stationed at Shahbaz air base, Pakistan, from March 2018-2019, serving as the Technical Security Team (TST) superintendent. He led four U.S. Air Force Airmen and 30 U.S. contractors and executed end-use monitoring of U.S. weapons and technology, preventing the unauthorized transfer to other countries.

He managed the security compliance oversight for Pakistan’s F-16 program, enabling Pakistani counterinsurgency and counterterrorism operations to successfully prevent violent extremist organizations from sabotaging the efforts of the Pakistan state.

“Wilson’s leadership in completing the TST mission ensured the partnership between the U.S. and Pakistan remained strong to maintain the strategic purpose of their relationship,” said Maj. Americo Penaflor, 50th Missile Defense Agency, Schriever AFB, Colo., deputy of strategic planning, and Wilson’s prior TST chief in Pakistan. “The protection of technology through the processes that Wilson enforced was literally the glue that held together the U.S. and Pakistan relationship. If this mission failed and the aircraft were compromised, there would be negative impacts to the counterterrorism mission in which Pakistan supports the U.S.”

Wilson and his team also prevented the loss of technology on the F-16. They checked every component of the fighter jet and observed the avionics and guidance-type components of the aircraft.

While preventing the loss of technology, the military members provided 24/7 enhanced end-use monitoring (EUM) of the PAF F-16’s military weapons and technical data. This ensured both nations complied with the letter of agreement, which outlined those steps with which Pakistan was tasked in order to protect the aircraft’s technology.

Wilson said the rules his team followed were in accordance with the letter of agreement and the letter of acceptance. Both the United States Government and Pakistan developed guidelines to help ensure success of the program.

“We combined those rules and came up with how we’re going to check the F-16s and how the inspection process was going to operate.”

Living and working with the PAF gave Wilson the opportunity to experience different cultures and helped him see how they operate as a whole.

“They integrated us like family,” said Wilson. “We would play golf and they would openly invite us to any event. They are very open, kind people. We had no hiccups and were firm, but fair with them. Once you get used to the environment and how they operate, it’s amazing. I’d love to do another diplomatic and multinational mission like the one in Pakistan.”

Wilson couldn’t have done it on his own. The four U.S. military members he was stationed with at Shahbaz helped him through everything, he said.

 

[Armand2REP]

You should not state things without information. US has permanent deployment in Pakistan to enforce “end use monitoring.”

Clearly they don't otherwise they would be able to count that Pakistan is missing an F-16.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

SU-30MKI UPDATE.
India plans to upgrade its fleet of Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets with more advanced avionics, radars and weapons to further bolster their combat capabilities, with detailed talks currently under way with Russia for the project. The IAF is also finalising with Russia the procurement of 12 more Sukhois to replace the ones lost in crashes, which will be built by defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics, as well as 21 additional MiG-29 jets that will cost around Rs 230 crore each. “The Sukhois will be upgraded in near future to further enhance their operational capabilities,” said IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Rakesh Kumar Singh Bhadauria. The IAF has so far inducted over 250 of the 272 Sukhois originally contracted in batches from Russia for well over $12 billion, with the bulk of them being licensed-produced by HAL. The Sukhoi upgrade project will include the latest avionics, a much more powerful radar “almost as good as an AESA (active electronically scanned array) one”, state-of-the-art electronic warfare systems and the like. “There will be new computer systems for greater weapon control and integration of new missiles and PGMs (precision-guided munitions),” said a source. Forty-two of the twin-seat Sukhois, which have a cruising range of 3,200 km or a combat radius of about 1,500 km without mid-air refuelling, are also to be armed with the supersonic BrahMos cruise missiles to constitute a deadly package of precision-strike capability from long or “stand-off distances”. The IAF has based the fourth-generation “air dominance” Sukhois on both the western and eastern fronts, from Halwara, Jodhpur and Sirsa to Bareilly, Tezpur and Chabua, to cater for Pakistan and China. Along with the Mirage-2000s, the Sukhois are the most potent fighters in the country’s air combat fleet till the 36 Rafales get inducted under the Rs 59,000 crore deal inked with France in 2016. The IAF’s 49 Mirage-2000s, some of which were used to bomb the JeM facility at Balakot in Pakistan on February 26, are being upgraded under an overall programme worth Rs 17,547 crore. The programme was first finalised at Rs 10,947 crore with French companies Dassault Aviation and Thales in July 2011. Then, a second Rs 6,600 crore contract for 490 advanced fire-and-forget MICA (interception and aerial combat missiles) systems to arm the Mirages was finalised with French armament major MBDA in early-2012. But the progress has been slow since then, with only about 10 Mirages being upgraded till now.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

There are US personnel deployed in Pakistan to protect sensitive US technology. Sale wouldn’t be an issue.

Then why design and secrets were stolen by Chinese from a crashed Sikorsky UH- 60 Black Hawk

 

[Deathstar]

Then why design and secrets were stolen by Chinese from a crashed Sikorsky UH- 60 Black Hawk

Also J10 copy of F16.......chinese blatantly copy designs

 

[Wisemarko]

Then why design and secrets were stolen by Chinese from a crashed Sikorsky UH- 60 Black Hawk

Two very unrelated topics.........

 

[Wisemarko]

Clearly they don't otherwise they would be able to count that Pakistan is missing an F-16.

And your point is? You think the facts are not known? Anyway.. no more discussion. Good night

 

[daya]

No doubt it is a beast with wings.

 

[Akula]

Then why design and secrets were stolen by Chinese from a crashed Sikorsky UH- 60 Black Hawk

This is off topic.
Chinese have operated S-70 in PLA from 1984.

 

[Armand2REP]

Chinese have operated S-70 in PLA from 1984.

This is news to me... HK police shortly had it but returned them for Super Pumas as they weren't satisfied with the performance.

 

[Akula]

This is news to me... HK police shortly had it but returned them for Super Pumas as they weren't satisfied with the performance.

Is there any chance that Chinese inspected the design?

 

[Armand2REP]

Is there any chance that Chinese inspected the design?

I doubt it as they weren't unified yet. When HK returned them they went straight back to America.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Hmmm...............................

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Hmmm...............................

That's Pesa we are searching for AESA.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

That's Pesa we are searching for AESA.

I think if we are going with Russia for su-30mki update then we will use Russian radar. NIP 035 is used on su-35.
For asea there is zuhuk radar but it's not that great.

 

[Aaj ka hero]

I think if we are going with Russia for su-30mki update then we will use Russian radar. NIP 035 is used on su-35.
For asea there is zuhuk radar but it's not that great.

Yes and for that UTTAM AESA has to succeed.

 

[vampyrbladez]

It looks like the upgrade package will have the updated AL 41 F-C1 engine to go with the N035 IBRIS E PESA radar due to the increased power and reliability requirements.

It is expected that upgrading the Su-30MKI will not take much time as Russia already implemented significant upgrades including radar and engines on the Su-30SM which is in the service of the Russian Air Force.

Vijainder K Thakur said Russia had integrated Su35 IRBIS-E Radar and AL-41F-C1 engines on a Su-30 airframe with the Su-30SM, which represents a convergence of the two platforms independently developed from the Su-27, aimed at mitigating logistics & maintenance overheads.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sputni...ble-of-detecting-f-35-chinese-j-20---analyst/