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Brahmos
Missile seekers
Help with the Arihant reactor.
to name a few
FGFA is really trying to recreate the Success of the Brahmos venture.
Which this agreement is really modeled on.
Sukhoi PAK FA
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Missile seekers
Help with the Arihant reactor.
to name a few
FGFA is really trying to recreate the Success of the Brahmos venture.
Which this agreement is really modeled on.
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Well, we will have to see about the PAK-FA/FGFA. Yet, my point was what did India gain from the past relationship in Advance Technology. Especially, in regards to Advance Fighter Aircraft??? Seems like India sourced Western Companies for the LCA. So, again what has India gain from its relationship with Russia???
As a matter of fact very few expect India to select the Russian Mig-35 for the MMRCA. Instead most believe it will be a Western Type. Which, speaks volumes...........
Respectfully, as a whole Russia Equipment isn't up to Western Standards.
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There is nothing above licenced production technology Russia will share with India on FGFA, with regard to airframe, radar and Engines. HAL would just integrate Indian developed mission computers and some avions, perhaps this contribution sum upto 30 % by value of the complete FGFA platform. This customisation is sold to the Indian general public as joint venture.
Russia may buy same mission computers for PAK FA just to justify scale of manufacture that reduces cost. If china decides to buy 100 PAK FA MKK, I'm sure Russia would offer alternatives to Indian avionics or chinese themselves would prefer chinese avioncs that were part of J-xx program.
Russia may buy same mission computers for PAK FA just to justify scale of manufacture that reduces cost. If china decides to buy 100 PAK FA MKK, I'm sure Russia would offer alternatives to Indian avionics or chinese themselves would prefer chinese avioncs that were part of J-xx program.
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Fifth-gen jets in IAF arsenal in a decade
Read more: Fifth-gen jets in IAF arsenal in a decade - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-decade/articleshow/7128601.cms#ixzz18cmYAs1s
NEW DELHI: It will take a decade for India to begin inducting the first lot of the 250-300 advanced stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) it is going to jointly develop and manufacture with Russia.
As per the detailed roadmap finalised between India and Russia, the "series production" of FGFA will be launched in 2019, with the actual deliveries to begin in 2020, sources said.
The stage for the entire FGFA programme, which will see India spending upwards of $35 billion over the next two decades in its biggest-ever defence project, will finally be set this week.
With Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in town, New Delhi and Moscow will ink the $295 million preliminary design contract (PDC) for FGFA on Tuesday. Then, over the next 18 months, the two sides will work out the detailed design and other agreements to kickstart the actual building of FGFA.
"Forty Indian designers and scientists will be stationed in Russia, with a similar number of Russians here. A secure data link will also be set up to ensure both sides are fully in the picture all the time," said a source.
The total cost of designing, infrastructure build-up, prototype development, flight testing and the like has been pegged at around $11 billion, with both sides chipping in with $5.50 billion each in the "50-50% partnership".
India, for instance, will spend $2.50 billion of its $5.50 billion share in setting up infrastructure for manufacturing plants, tooling facilities and hangars.
Each "swing role" FGFA, with a deadly mix of super-manoeuvrability and supersonic cruising ability, long-range strike and high-endurance air defence capabilities, will cost an additional $100 million or so.
Cash-strapped Russia is already flying the prototype of its single-seater FGFA called Sukhoi T-50. While the Indian FGFA will basically be based on this fighter, it will "be tweaked to meet IAF requirements".
For one, IAF wants a twin-seater FGFA, with one pilot actually flying the jet and the other handling sensors and weapon systems. Russia, however, feels adding a second cockpit will "adversely impact" the stealth.
For another, IAF is keen on a new engine with "a greater thrust" than the one Russia is currently using for its FGFA. "All these things will take time and money... Six to seven prototypes should be flying by 2017. It will take about 2,500 hours of flying to get the final flight certification," he said.
With IPR (intellectual property rights) being "equally and jointly vested", India and Russia may also decide to sell the FGFA to "third countries" by mutual consent.
Till FGFA becomes a reality, India's combat fleet will mainly revolve around the 270 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia for around $12 billion, the 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft to be acquired in the $10.4 billion project and 120 indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, apart from upgraded MiG-29s and Mirage-2000s.
Read more: Fifth-gen jets in IAF arsenal in a decade - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-decade/articleshow/7128601.cms#ixzz18cmer2Pw
Read more: Fifth-gen jets in IAF arsenal in a decade - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-decade/articleshow/7128601.cms#ixzz18cmYAs1s
NEW DELHI: It will take a decade for India to begin inducting the first lot of the 250-300 advanced stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) it is going to jointly develop and manufacture with Russia.
As per the detailed roadmap finalised between India and Russia, the "series production" of FGFA will be launched in 2019, with the actual deliveries to begin in 2020, sources said.
The stage for the entire FGFA programme, which will see India spending upwards of $35 billion over the next two decades in its biggest-ever defence project, will finally be set this week.
With Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in town, New Delhi and Moscow will ink the $295 million preliminary design contract (PDC) for FGFA on Tuesday. Then, over the next 18 months, the two sides will work out the detailed design and other agreements to kickstart the actual building of FGFA.
"Forty Indian designers and scientists will be stationed in Russia, with a similar number of Russians here. A secure data link will also be set up to ensure both sides are fully in the picture all the time," said a source.
The total cost of designing, infrastructure build-up, prototype development, flight testing and the like has been pegged at around $11 billion, with both sides chipping in with $5.50 billion each in the "50-50% partnership".
India, for instance, will spend $2.50 billion of its $5.50 billion share in setting up infrastructure for manufacturing plants, tooling facilities and hangars.
Each "swing role" FGFA, with a deadly mix of super-manoeuvrability and supersonic cruising ability, long-range strike and high-endurance air defence capabilities, will cost an additional $100 million or so.
Cash-strapped Russia is already flying the prototype of its single-seater FGFA called Sukhoi T-50. While the Indian FGFA will basically be based on this fighter, it will "be tweaked to meet IAF requirements".
For one, IAF wants a twin-seater FGFA, with one pilot actually flying the jet and the other handling sensors and weapon systems. Russia, however, feels adding a second cockpit will "adversely impact" the stealth.
For another, IAF is keen on a new engine with "a greater thrust" than the one Russia is currently using for its FGFA. "All these things will take time and money... Six to seven prototypes should be flying by 2017. It will take about 2,500 hours of flying to get the final flight certification," he said.
With IPR (intellectual property rights) being "equally and jointly vested", India and Russia may also decide to sell the FGFA to "third countries" by mutual consent.
Till FGFA becomes a reality, India's combat fleet will mainly revolve around the 270 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia for around $12 billion, the 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft to be acquired in the $10.4 billion project and 120 indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, apart from upgraded MiG-29s and Mirage-2000s.
Read more: Fifth-gen jets in IAF arsenal in a decade - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-decade/articleshow/7128601.cms#ixzz18cmer2Pw
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NEW DELHI, December 20 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian-Indian second prototype fifth-generation fighter aircraft will take to the skies in early 2011, United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) President Alexei Fyodorov said on Monday.
"We have put the deadline forward to the start of 2011," he said.
"It is important for us that the second prototype is a development to the first, not simply a repeat," he added.
Work is underway on the third prototype, incorporating even more advanced systems, he said.
Russia's Sukhoi holding and India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) agreed in early 2010 to jointly develop a fifth-generation fighter jet based on the T-50 design.
They later put the estimated project design cost at $295 million.
The contract is to be signed by HAL and UAC officials during Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to India on December 20-22.
The two sides agreed to develop both a single-seat and a two-seat version of the aircraft by 2016, initially focusing on the single-seat version. The costs will be shared equally between Russia and India.
The first Russian prototype T-50 made its maiden flight in January 2010.
The new fighter aircraft is expected to enter service with the Indian Air Force by 2020.
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This is not completely true. Unlike SU-30MKI here we are joint partners and even for the sake of money Russia will have to transfer us technology especially of airframe material wise. There is absolutely no logic if Russia denies to transfer airframe technology and GOI-IAF-HAL agrees to pay half the cost. As far as radar and engines are concerned then there Russia may not be that enthusiastic. But at the same time there are rumours that IAF is looking to diversify their options irrespective of Russian offer. Though i am not sure what option is available for engine but for Radar IAF may have an indigenous option available by 2020.
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Second flying PAK FA in ground testing, third "more advanced" in production
Second flying PAK FA in ground testing, third "more advanced" in production
Second flying PAK FA in ground testing, third "more advanced" in production
http://lenta.ru/news/2010/12/20/pakfa/
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India, Russia sign deals on nuclear reactors, fighter planes
Read more: India, Russia sign deals on nuclear reactors, fighter planes - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-planes/articleshow/7138786.cms#ixzz18jtBvGgF
Read more: India, Russia sign deals on nuclear reactors, fighter planes - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-planes/articleshow/7138786.cms#ixzz18jtBvGgF
NEW DELHI: India and Russia signed a raft of agreements Tuesday, including a framework accord on the building of two Russian nuclear reactors, and a pact to design and develop fifth-generation fighter aircraft.
The accords were signed following talks in New Delhi between visiting Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Indian PM Manmohan Singh, during which both sides set a target of doubling bilateral trade to 20 billion dollars by 2015.
The nuclear agreement covered the building of two additional generating units at a nuclear power plant in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, where Russia is already setting up two reactors, a joint statement said.
Energy-hungry India is one of the world's biggest markets for nuclear technology with plans to reach a nuclear power capacity of 63,000 megawatts by 2032, from the current level of 4,560 megawatts.
The accord on jointly developing a fifth-generation fighter with stealth capabilities could be worth up to 30 billion dollars, with India planning to bring up to 300 of the aircraft in its air force.
In the joint statement, Russia also voiced its support for India "as a deserving and strong candidate" for a permanent seat in an expanded UN Security Council.
Read more: India, Russia sign deals on nuclear reactors, fighter planes - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-planes/articleshow/7138786.cms#ixzz18jtEnDQb
The accords were signed following talks in New Delhi between visiting Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Indian PM Manmohan Singh, during which both sides set a target of doubling bilateral trade to 20 billion dollars by 2015.
The nuclear agreement covered the building of two additional generating units at a nuclear power plant in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, where Russia is already setting up two reactors, a joint statement said.
Energy-hungry India is one of the world's biggest markets for nuclear technology with plans to reach a nuclear power capacity of 63,000 megawatts by 2032, from the current level of 4,560 megawatts.
The accord on jointly developing a fifth-generation fighter with stealth capabilities could be worth up to 30 billion dollars, with India planning to bring up to 300 of the aircraft in its air force.
In the joint statement, Russia also voiced its support for India "as a deserving and strong candidate" for a permanent seat in an expanded UN Security Council.
Read more: India, Russia sign deals on nuclear reactors, fighter planes - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-planes/articleshow/7138786.cms#ixzz18jtEnDQb
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India, Russia boost ties with 11 agreements
New Delhi: India and Russia on Tuesday signed 11 agreements, boosting ties in areas like science, the peaceful use of nuclear energy, culture and pharmaceuticals, but a key defence pact on the joint production of a fifth generation fighter aircraft was not announced.
The agreements were signed in the presence of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and visiting Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who arrived in India on a two-day visit shortly after midnight on Monday.
Relations between the two countries have blossomed in recent years, with India becoming one of the biggest importers of Russian military hardware.
In 2009, Russia-India trade reached the $7.5 billion mark. The countries plan to raise the figure to $20 billion by 2015.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-russia-boost-ties-with-11-agreements/138145-3.html?from=tn
New Delhi: India and Russia on Tuesday signed 11 agreements, boosting ties in areas like science, the peaceful use of nuclear energy, culture and pharmaceuticals, but a key defence pact on the joint production of a fifth generation fighter aircraft was not announced.
The agreements were signed in the presence of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and visiting Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who arrived in India on a two-day visit shortly after midnight on Monday.
Relations between the two countries have blossomed in recent years, with India becoming one of the biggest importers of Russian military hardware.
In 2009, Russia-India trade reached the $7.5 billion mark. The countries plan to raise the figure to $20 billion by 2015.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-russia-boost-ties-with-11-agreements/138145-3.html?from=tn
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http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...als-to-build-next-generation-fighters_1484509
India, Russia sign 'mother of all deals' to build next generation fighters
India and Russia signed on Tuesday the world's biggest defence deal, worth $30 billion, for fifth-generation fighter aircraft. In fact, New Delhi released $295 million towards the design contract.
The Indo-Russian aircraft, termed perspective multi-role fighters (PMFs), will be developed and manufactured jointly by Russian firms Rosoboronexport and Sukhoi and Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Limited for the air forces of the two countries.
Between 2020 and 2030, 250 fighters are expected to be delivered.
The basic structural and system design of the fighters will be the same as those of the Russian fifth-generation fighters. A few modifications, though, will be made to meet the requirements of the Indian Air Force.
The fighters will have advanced features such as stealth, super-cruise, ultra-manoeuvrability, highly integrated avionics suites, enhanced situational awareness, internal carriage of weapons, and network-centric warfare capabilities.
As per the agreement, the workload will be shared by India and Russia, with 40 scientists from the two countries working on the project.
The cost of the initial contract is $11 billion, which will be borne equally by India and Russia. It includes the cost of flight testing, infrastructure, design and development. The final cost of each aircraft would be $100 million.
Another joint venture between Russian UAC and Rosoboronexport and India's HAL to develop and co-produce multi-role transport aircraft was registered on Tuesday, so that design work for the aircraft could begin.
The deal to manufacture 250 transport aircraft is worth approximately Rs2,900 crore. Indian and Russian officials also made progress in talks to sign a contract to upgrade the IAF's existing Sukhoi-30MKI aircraft.
India, Russia sign 'mother of all deals' to build next generation fighters
India and Russia signed on Tuesday the world's biggest defence deal, worth $30 billion, for fifth-generation fighter aircraft. In fact, New Delhi released $295 million towards the design contract.
The Indo-Russian aircraft, termed perspective multi-role fighters (PMFs), will be developed and manufactured jointly by Russian firms Rosoboronexport and Sukhoi and Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Limited for the air forces of the two countries.
Between 2020 and 2030, 250 fighters are expected to be delivered.
The basic structural and system design of the fighters will be the same as those of the Russian fifth-generation fighters. A few modifications, though, will be made to meet the requirements of the Indian Air Force.
The fighters will have advanced features such as stealth, super-cruise, ultra-manoeuvrability, highly integrated avionics suites, enhanced situational awareness, internal carriage of weapons, and network-centric warfare capabilities.
As per the agreement, the workload will be shared by India and Russia, with 40 scientists from the two countries working on the project.
The cost of the initial contract is $11 billion, which will be borne equally by India and Russia. It includes the cost of flight testing, infrastructure, design and development. The final cost of each aircraft would be $100 million.
Another joint venture between Russian UAC and Rosoboronexport and India's HAL to develop and co-produce multi-role transport aircraft was registered on Tuesday, so that design work for the aircraft could begin.
The deal to manufacture 250 transport aircraft is worth approximately Rs2,900 crore. Indian and Russian officials also made progress in talks to sign a contract to upgrade the IAF's existing Sukhoi-30MKI aircraft.
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/122447/india-russia-ink-biggest-ever.html
India, Russia ink biggest-ever military deal
This will be only the third instance of a successful Indo-Russian collaboration of the kind in the military sphere after BrahMos supersonic cruise missile and the recent multi-role transport aircraft project.
But the scale of spending in the fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft would far surpass any other in the history of Indian defence procurement/ development programme. India would be spending close to $ 36 billion (approximately 1.8 lakh crore) to develop and produce the GenNext fighter plane. The Indian Air Force (IAF) plans to induct between 250-300 of these fighters by 2030.
The fifth-generation fighters have better manoeuvreability, higher strike rate and improved networking. They also have stealth features making them difficult to detect by radar and the ability to super-cruise - cruising along in supersonic speed.
At the moment, only the US has a fifth-generation fighter, F-22 (Raptor) and trial is on with F-35. China too is developing its own fifth-generation version. If things go as planned, IAF may have its first FGFA by 2020.
A contract for the preliminary design of the FGFA was inked by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) top brass with the representatives of Rosoboronexport and Sukhoi on the margins of the discussions between the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev here on Tuesday.
"This is the biggest defence programme ever in the history of India involving production of over 250 aircraft," a statement from HAL said. This is the first agreement in a series of contracts, to be signed later to cover different stages of the programme.
The Centre will initially release $ 295 million (close to Rs 150 crore) for completing the preliminary design of the air superiority fighter plane within the next 18 months, Defence Ministry sources said. Once the FGFA design is frozen, India will spend $ 5.5 billion (Rs 27,000 crore) to develop six prototypes. Subsequently, India is likely to spend $ 30 billion (Rs 1.5 lakh crore) to buy 300 aircraft at a cost of $ 100 million apiece.
Even though it would be based on the Sukhoi PAK- FA (T-50), the first prototype of which flew in January, 2010, there will be specific design changes suiting the Indian requirement. IAF, for instance, wants a twin-seater version and integration of an advanced engine with higher thrust at a later stage.
Once the design is frozen, a secure data-link would be established between New Delhi and Moscow for data exchange. Forty Indian scientists will be stationed at Moscow for developing the Indian prototype, scheduled to be ready by 2017.
The plan is to manufacture 6 prototypes and fly them for 2500 hours to get the airworthiness certificates. The first FGFA would be delivered to the IAF by 2020 and the fleet comprising 250-300 aircraft should be in place by 2030.
Two of India's biggest defence procurement programmes before this –the Rs 42,000 crore deal to acquire 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft and the Rs 50,000 crore scheme to start the second production line of diesel-electric submarine with foreign partners - pale when compared to the Russian FGFA deal, which was in the works in the last decade.
India, Russia ink biggest-ever military deal
This will be only the third instance of a successful Indo-Russian collaboration of the kind in the military sphere after BrahMos supersonic cruise missile and the recent multi-role transport aircraft project.
But the scale of spending in the fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft would far surpass any other in the history of Indian defence procurement/ development programme. India would be spending close to $ 36 billion (approximately 1.8 lakh crore) to develop and produce the GenNext fighter plane. The Indian Air Force (IAF) plans to induct between 250-300 of these fighters by 2030.
The fifth-generation fighters have better manoeuvreability, higher strike rate and improved networking. They also have stealth features making them difficult to detect by radar and the ability to super-cruise - cruising along in supersonic speed.
At the moment, only the US has a fifth-generation fighter, F-22 (Raptor) and trial is on with F-35. China too is developing its own fifth-generation version. If things go as planned, IAF may have its first FGFA by 2020.
A contract for the preliminary design of the FGFA was inked by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) top brass with the representatives of Rosoboronexport and Sukhoi on the margins of the discussions between the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev here on Tuesday.
"This is the biggest defence programme ever in the history of India involving production of over 250 aircraft," a statement from HAL said. This is the first agreement in a series of contracts, to be signed later to cover different stages of the programme.
The Centre will initially release $ 295 million (close to Rs 150 crore) for completing the preliminary design of the air superiority fighter plane within the next 18 months, Defence Ministry sources said. Once the FGFA design is frozen, India will spend $ 5.5 billion (Rs 27,000 crore) to develop six prototypes. Subsequently, India is likely to spend $ 30 billion (Rs 1.5 lakh crore) to buy 300 aircraft at a cost of $ 100 million apiece.
Even though it would be based on the Sukhoi PAK- FA (T-50), the first prototype of which flew in January, 2010, there will be specific design changes suiting the Indian requirement. IAF, for instance, wants a twin-seater version and integration of an advanced engine with higher thrust at a later stage.
Once the design is frozen, a secure data-link would be established between New Delhi and Moscow for data exchange. Forty Indian scientists will be stationed at Moscow for developing the Indian prototype, scheduled to be ready by 2017.
The plan is to manufacture 6 prototypes and fly them for 2500 hours to get the airworthiness certificates. The first FGFA would be delivered to the IAF by 2020 and the fleet comprising 250-300 aircraft should be in place by 2030.
Two of India's biggest defence procurement programmes before this –the Rs 42,000 crore deal to acquire 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft and the Rs 50,000 crore scheme to start the second production line of diesel-electric submarine with foreign partners - pale when compared to the Russian FGFA deal, which was in the works in the last decade.
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by 2020-2035 we need at least 900 fgfa(750 for iaf+150 for navy)to match the current 2000+fighter in plaaf inventory.by 2035 we will be hopefully a 7-8 billion dollar economy so we need to think big from onwards.
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Russian media hails 5G aircraft deal with India
Russian media on Wednesday hailed President Dmitry Medvedev's summit talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in New Delhi, as it praised the "historic" USD 295 million deal for design and development of fifth generation advanced fighter aircraft.
"Love with Privileges" - popular daily Moskovsky Komsomolets reports from New Delhi that the joint statement signed by the two leaders reflects their mutual joy at the transformation of bilateral India, Russia strategic cooperation into 'special, privileged strategic partnership'.
"Level of bilateral cooperation in science, technology and innovative modernisation will rise," Moskovsky Komsomolets quotes Medvedev.
The country's media also hailed about 30 government and private level agreements signed in New Delhi.
According to financial daily Vedomosti in its "The Project for Half Century" article notes that the 5G fighter deal inked on the sidelines of Medvedev - Singh summit "was unprecedented in the world history".
"The preliminary design contract (PDC) of perspective multirole fighter (PMF) was the only agreement signed on the sidelines of President Medvedev's in the absence of press.
Although its value is around USD 300 million, but it will keep the Russian aircraft industry busy for half a century," Vedomosti writes.
Quoting a top expert of the independent defence think-tank Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST) Konstantin Makiyenko 'Vedomosti' reminds that most successful bilateral USD 8 billion Su-30MKI project also began with the signing of USD 340 million contract for the development of a multirole fighter jet for the IAF by Sukhoi and kept the Russian aircraft industry busy for 15 years.
"The new 5G fighter project will keep it busy well past the middle of this century," Makiyenko said.
Editor of 'Moscow Defence Brief' magazine Mikhail Barabanov noted that Indo-Russian 5G contract is 'unprecedented in the world practice', as the US has never allowed anyone into their F-22 Raptor project at the design and development stage and its export is also banned.
The government daily "Rossiskaya Gazeta' notes the signing of long term programme for cooperation in science and technology, agreement between the Russian edition of Silicon Valley - "Skolkovo" foundation and Tata Group on the innovative interaction. Tata group chairman Ratan Tata is on the advisory council of "Skolkovo".
Popular youth daily "Komsomolskaya Pravda" in its article "India and Russia will launch Lunokhod on the Moon and will Develop New Generation Fighter" notes that half of the bilateral trade is in the hi-tech and innovative products.
http://www.brahmand.com/news/Russian-media-hails-5G-aircraft-deal-with-India/5880/1/14.html
Russian media on Wednesday hailed President Dmitry Medvedev's summit talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in New Delhi, as it praised the "historic" USD 295 million deal for design and development of fifth generation advanced fighter aircraft.
"Love with Privileges" - popular daily Moskovsky Komsomolets reports from New Delhi that the joint statement signed by the two leaders reflects their mutual joy at the transformation of bilateral India, Russia strategic cooperation into 'special, privileged strategic partnership'.
"Level of bilateral cooperation in science, technology and innovative modernisation will rise," Moskovsky Komsomolets quotes Medvedev.
The country's media also hailed about 30 government and private level agreements signed in New Delhi.
According to financial daily Vedomosti in its "The Project for Half Century" article notes that the 5G fighter deal inked on the sidelines of Medvedev - Singh summit "was unprecedented in the world history".
"The preliminary design contract (PDC) of perspective multirole fighter (PMF) was the only agreement signed on the sidelines of President Medvedev's in the absence of press.
Although its value is around USD 300 million, but it will keep the Russian aircraft industry busy for half a century," Vedomosti writes.
Quoting a top expert of the independent defence think-tank Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST) Konstantin Makiyenko 'Vedomosti' reminds that most successful bilateral USD 8 billion Su-30MKI project also began with the signing of USD 340 million contract for the development of a multirole fighter jet for the IAF by Sukhoi and kept the Russian aircraft industry busy for 15 years.
"The new 5G fighter project will keep it busy well past the middle of this century," Makiyenko said.
Editor of 'Moscow Defence Brief' magazine Mikhail Barabanov noted that Indo-Russian 5G contract is 'unprecedented in the world practice', as the US has never allowed anyone into their F-22 Raptor project at the design and development stage and its export is also banned.
The government daily "Rossiskaya Gazeta' notes the signing of long term programme for cooperation in science and technology, agreement between the Russian edition of Silicon Valley - "Skolkovo" foundation and Tata Group on the innovative interaction. Tata group chairman Ratan Tata is on the advisory council of "Skolkovo".
Popular youth daily "Komsomolskaya Pravda" in its article "India and Russia will launch Lunokhod on the Moon and will Develop New Generation Fighter" notes that half of the bilateral trade is in the hi-tech and innovative products.
http://www.brahmand.com/news/Russian-media-hails-5G-aircraft-deal-with-India/5880/1/14.html
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I seriously doubt the level of participation from HAL in this joint venture.. Sometime back I read a news saying that HAL will not be part of the designing team and will not be provided complete ToT too.. It will be something like pay for the design and buy the fighter like as we got it Su-30..
Anybody having more news on this...
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the participation of hal in the pak-fa project till now is zero even though talks of joint developement is being heard for a long time.let us see how the participation of hal increase after the signing of this formal agreement which can be found out based on the difference between the t-50 and the pmf prototype may be 6-7 years from now
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What a bised article Mr.Manoj Joshi...!
The author praises the PRC's acquired capability, how it mastered the Su-27 design, how the technology is deeply immersed in Chinese industries. If this is all so great, whats been going wrong about J11?? Why PRC still looking for Russian engines??
Mr.Joshi, do you really understand the difference between prototype & final variant?
"India has not developed any significant design & development capability despite funding the LCA project"!!
"Chinese high-speed trains & MKI's assembly secretly imported from Russia" !!
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Is it the western payroll or denial in disguise??
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Most of that is unsubstantiated.
HAL is a junior partner in the program whatever way you look at it.
If you had ADA also involved it might be different.
HAL has not doing the primary R&D for the AMCA , and have yet to be involved in that project.(ADA is responsible for that)
So far their expertise and Experience center around the LCA , Dhurv and LCH.
These guys have a portfolio as well as export orders.
The reason for the delay in signing the deal , is due to the Russian side not agreeing to the terms of providing HAL with a percentage level of the work load.
India has negotiated HAL to get anywhere between 25%-30% of the share. Area's such as the re-design of the PAK_fa prototype into the Twin seater FGFA configuration will be done by HAL.
Avionics such as the Mission computer will also be HAL's work.
Russian and Indian side's have repeatedly said that ToT will be 100% , and that India will have say in export orders.
This info has been echoed by Sukhoi in its press releases , MoD in its own , and Multiple Russian officals.
For all intents and purposes the Brhamos missile is essentially what people want this agreement to turn out like.
