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[Anshu Attri]

India to jointly develop 250 fifth generation fighters


India to jointly develop 250 fifth generation fighters

ew Delhi, Oct 4: India will have a fleet of 200 to 250 fifth generation fighter aircraft, which it is planning to jointly develop with Russia over the next 10 years.

India has finalized a preliminary design contract (PDC) with Russia after years of deliberations and will jointly develop a fifth-generation stealth fighter with Russia. Each fifth generation fighter is likely to cost India about 100 million dollars.

Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Pradeep Vasant Naik, said: "We are looking for about 200 to 250 fifth generation fighters. Some of the features we like the aircraft to possess are swing role, could fly for longer durations without refueling, super cruise, better reliability and maintainability, higher level mission computers, etc."

Speaking to reporters ahead of the Indian Air Force's 78th Anniversary this year, he said on Monday that the fifth generation fighters will start rolling out by 2017.

The contract is likely to be signed during Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to New Delhi in December, if the preliminary design contract is approved by India.

The Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be the Indian designer and builder of the stealth fighter and could cost India six billion dollar.

India's share will be about 30 percent of the total design in the stealth fighter project, and mainly focus on the composite components with the stealth function and some electronics equipments, such as avionics, electronic warfare systems and cockpit displays.

India will also be responsible to design from the single-seat stealth fighter into a two-seater type, which would be deployed by the Indian Air Force.

Russia's Sukhoi Design Bureau has been developing the stealth fifth-generation fighter PAK-FA with a range of more than 5,000 km since 1990's.

 

[Sri]

Indian Air Force Targeting 200-250 Fifth Generation Fighter Jets: Air Chief Marshal Pradeep Vasant Naik | India Defence

 

[Anshu Attri]

India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters
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India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters - The Times of India


NEW DELHI: India will eventually spend over $25 billion to induct 250 advanced stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), on way to being co-developed with Russia, in what will be the country's biggest-ever defence project.

With a potent mix of super-manoeuvrability and supersonic cruising ability, long-range strike and high-endurance air defence capabilities, each FGFA will cost upwards of Rs 450 crore or around $100 million.

This will be in addition to the huge investment to be made in co-developing FGFA with cash-strapped Russia, as also the huge infrastructure required to base, operate and maintain such jets in India.

"We are looking to induct 200 to 250 FGFA in phases from 2017 onwards,'' confirmed IAF chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik on Monday. As reported by TOI earlier, New Delhi and Moscow are looking to ink the FGFA preliminary design contract when Russian President Dmitry Medvedev comes visiting here in December.

Under intense negotiations for the last four-five years, the FGFA project will also figure in the talks between defence minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov on October 8.

Though the Indian FGFA will based on the Russian Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA, which flew for the first time this January at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur facility in Siberia, it will be built to IAF's specifications. It's already being touted as superior to the American F/A-22 `Raptor', the world's only operational FGFA as of now.

ACM Naik said the 30-tonne FGFA will be a "swing-role fighter, with very advanced avionics, stealth to increase survivability, enhanced lethality, 360 degree situational awareness, smart weapons, data-links, high-end mission computers'' and the like.

Along with 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft, which India plans to acquire in a $10.4 billion project, 270 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia for around $12 billion and 120 indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, the FGFA will be the mainstay of India's air combat fleet for the foreseeable future.

Even as the Army revises its war doctrine to factor in the worst-case scenario of a simultaneous two-front war with Pakistan and China, is IAF also preparing for the same?

"Our modernisation plans are based on the four pillars of `see, reach, hit and protect'...We prepare for a multi-faceted, multi-dimensional, multi-front war,'' said ACM Naik.

"But our approach is capability-based, not adversary-specific. Our modernisation drive is in tune with our nation's aspirations,'' he said, adding that India's strategic interests stretched "from Hormuz Strait to Malacca Strait and beyond''.

To a volley of questions on China and Pakistan, IAF chief said, "All neighbours, from the smallest to the largest, have to be watched with caution...Their capabilities have to be assessed...Anything that can upset the growth of our nation is a matter of concern.''

With the new planned inductions in the pipeline, IAF's obsolescence rate will come down to 20% by 2014-15 from the current 50% or so. "But this does not mean that we are not fully capable of defending the country from any air or space threat at the moment...We are,'' said ACM Naik.


Read more: India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters - The Times of India India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters - The Times of India

 

[Yusuf]

Great news this which actually confirms all speculations. With 250 being the figure put by the air chief starting 2017 which could well go up as need arises. We could see the MRCA capped at 126 only instead of 200 that is widely speculated to be end figure.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Nice step forward by the IAF. Now, when will INDIA sit and design the PAK FA for its requirements of IAF...........

 

[gogbot]

Along with 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft, which India plans to acquire in a $10.4 billion project,

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270 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia for around $12 billion

Russian

and 120 indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft,

Indian

the FGFA

Indo/Russian

will be the mainstay of India's air combat fleet for the foreseeable future.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Great news this which actually confirms all speculations. With 250 being the figure put by the air chief starting 2017 which could well go up as need arises. We could see the MRCA capped at 126 only instead of 200 that is widely speculated to be end figure.

This is highly possible, why order 200 4th generation planes when you can get get more 5th generation PAK-FA roughly around the same price??

 

[plugwater]

This is highly possible, why order 200 4th generation planes when you can get get more 5th generation PAK-FA roughly around the same price??

I am sure Pak-Fa cost will increase. We are paying around 100 million for each Su-30 under the latest contract.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I am sure Pak-Fa cost will increase. We are paying around 100 million for each Su-30 under the latest contract.

This is almost equal to Eurofighter which has a lifecycle cost of 139 million per plane. (Roughly 50%+ over the cost of the plane) Also with LCA development progressing why order 200 MRCA planes???

 

[plugwater]

200+ MRCA is still a speculation sir. Also LCA mk-II and pakfa will come only after 2017.

 

[reddy0311]

2010-09-10 India and Russia will each pledge $6 billion to co-develop a fifth generation fighter aircraft. Russian and Indian negotiators have finalized a preliminary design contract (PDC) after years of negotiation - just in time for Russian President Dimitry Medvedev's visit to India in December.

Business Standard quotes Ministry of Defence officials saying "The negotiators have done their job, and the Cabinet Committee for Security will consider the PDC, probably this month ... If the CCS gives the green signal, as is likely, the contract will be signed during Medvedev's visit."

Ashok Nayak, Chairman of HAL, was quoted in the past weeks saying, "It is in the system for approval .. The respective work shares have been agreed to by both sides and once we sign the preliminary design contract, we will finish the design in about 18 months. Developing and building the fighter could take 8-10 years, and each side will pay $6 billion as its share."

Both the Russian and Indian Air Forces each plan to induct around 250 fighters, at an estimated cost of $100 million per aircraft. That adds up to $25 billion on top of the development cost. The high cost presumably prompted Russia into co-development with India.

In recent years, high costs and the economic downturn forced the United States to limit the F-22 Raptor production to 187 aircrafts - half of the estimate requirement of the USAF. Technologies in the F-22 were critical to America's technological superiority, the fighter was developed and built entirely within the US making production very expensive at $340 million per fighter on top of development costs.

Russia initially offered India partnership in the fighter program in 2002. This project saw a revival in the Russia-India inter-government agreement in November 2007.

This was a first for co-development of fighters by India and Russia. HAL sources commented, "This is the first time that Russia is co-developing a cutting-edge military platform with another country. Therefore, they were unclear about how to share work in a top-secret project like this ... Before each step, the Russian officials wanted clearances from the highest level in Moscow. Those 'presidential decrees', as they call them, took their time."

It has taken nearly years from the inter-government agreement to negotiate a general contract and non-disclosure agreement. In March 2010, a tactical technical assignment was signed, in which the work-shares were agreed upon.

Sukhoi Design Bureau has built a basic fifth-generation fighter - the PAK-FA (Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsy). A prototype made its first flight in January 2010.

India's will contribute to roughly 30% of the design effort. This will center on composite components and high-end electronics like the mission computer, avionics, cockpit displays and the electronic warfare systems. In addition, India will have to redesign the single-seat PAK-FA into the two-seater fighter that the IAF prefers. Like the Sukhoi-30MKI, IAF prefers one pilot flying and the other handling sensors, networks and weaponry.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Weapon and Technology: India visited PAK FA

India's PAK-FA visit

Russia has conducted a flight demonstration with its prototype PAK FA fighter for a delegation of Indian defence ministry and industry officials.

Held at Ramenskoye aerodrome near Moscow on 31 August, the 10min display was made in support of talks over the bilateral development by Moscow and New Delhi of a new fifth-generation fighter.

Indian officials inspected Sukhoi's lone PAK FA following the demonstration, which included low-speed passes and high angle-of-attack manoeuvres. The aircraft, which will be followed by two more prototypes before the end of the year, is pictured with new-look camouflage markings.

The new fighter programme is a topic of discussion by an Indo-Russian commission for military industrial co-operation, along with another to produce a multi-role transport aircraft with a 20t payload capacity.

New Delhi is insisting on executing both programmes as joint ventures, with equal sharing of investment and workshare.

Russia's air force has a requirement for 250-300 next-generation T-50 fighters to enter use from 2015-16, while India plans to buy between 200 and 250 of the joint design. This should use a common airframe and engines, but have its on-board systems and weapons tailored for their individual needs.

First flown in January, the PAK FA prototype is intended to de-risk features such as the use of low-observable materials and thrust-vectoring engines with supercruise performance, plus internally carried weapons.


* The T-50 is the domestic name of Russia's fifth-generation fighter plane which has been developed as the Advanced Front-Line Aviation Complex (PAK FA) for Russia's Air Force.

* The project started its development by the Sukhoi design bureau since it won the tender in April 2002.

* The Tikhomirov Institute of Instrument Design, which developed the Irbis radar for the Su-35BM Flanker, has been working on the T-50 radar. The new fighter's radar and fire-control system will be designed on the basis of the Su-35BM's systems.

* The new fighter's exterior design was approved on December 10, 2004.

* Last summer, the fighter's design was approved, and the prototype blueprints were delivered to the KNAAPO aircraft building company based in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, where three experimental fighters will be built for testing.

* In February 2009, the first prototype was constructed. After the plane was successfully tested on the runway, a decision was made to stage the maiden flight in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, rather than in Moscow.

* The prototype fifth-generation fighter made a 47-minute maiden flight on January 29, 2010, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

* Although T-50 specifications remain classified, fragmentary data on its engines imply that this heavy-duty fighter will have a take-off weight of more than 30 metric tons and will be close in dimension to the well-known Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker.

* The new fighter's exterior was designed using Stealth technology, also known as LO technology (low observable technology).

* The combat aircraft is fitted with 117S (upgraded AL-31) turbofan engines from the Russian aircraft engine manufacturer Saturn.

* The PAK FA can carry either eight next-generation air-to-air R-77 missiles, or two large controllable anti-ship bombs weighing 1,500 kg each.

* The new jet can also carry two long-range missiles developed by the Novator Bureau which can hit targets within a 400 kilometer range.

* The jet can use a take-off strip of just 300-400 meters, and perform sustained supersonic flight at speeds over 2,000 km/h, including repeated in-flight refueling. The highly-maneuverable plane has a range of about 5,500 kilometers.

* The fifth-generation fighter is equipped with advanced avionics to combine an automatic flight control system and a radar locator with a phased array antenna.

* The newest combat aircraft are planned to be mass produced in Komsomolsk-on-Amur from 2015.


Russian sources suggest a pre-production batch of between six and 10 aircraft will be built to support future testing of the type, with the nation's air force expected to launch operational trials in Lipetsk around 2012-13.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

PAK-FA: Russia’s fifth-generation fighter T-50 | Air Force News at DefenseTalk

PAK-FA: Russia's fifth-generation fighter T-50

* The T-50 is the domestic name of Russia's fifth-generation fighter plane which has been developed as the Advanced Front-Line Aviation Complex (PAK FA) for Russia's Air Force.
* The project started its development by the Sukhoi design bureau since it won the tender in April 2002.
* The Tikhomirov Institute of Instrument Design, which developed the Irbis radar for the Su-35BM Flanker, has been working on the T-50 radar. The new fighter's radar and fire-control system will be designed on the basis of the Su-35BM's systems.
* The new fighter's exterior design was approved on December 10, 2004.
* Last summer, the fighter's design was approved, and the prototype blueprints were delivered to the KNAAPO aircraft building company based in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, where three experimental fighters will be built for testing.
* In February 2009, the first prototype was constructed. After the plane was successfully tested on the runway, a decision was made to stage the maiden flight in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, rather than in Moscow.
* The prototype fifth-generation fighter made a 47-minute maiden flight on January 29, 2010, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
* Although T-50 specifications remain classified, fragmentary data on its engines imply that this heavy-duty fighter will have a take-off weight of more than 30 metric tons and will be close in dimension to the well-known Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker.
* The new fighter's exterior was designed using Stealth technology, also known as LO technology (low observable technology).
* The combat aircraft is fitted with 117S (upgraded AL-31) turbofan engines from the Russian aircraft engine manufacturer Saturn.
* The PAK FA can carry either eight next-generation air-to-air R-77 missiles, or two large controllable anti-ship bombs weighing 1,500 kg each.
* The new jet can also carry two long-range missiles developed by the Novator Bureau which can hit targets within a 400 kilometer range.
* The jet can use a take-off strip of just 300-400 meters, and perform sustained supersonic flight at speeds over 2,000 km/h, including repeated in-flight refueling. The highly-maneuverable plane has a range of about 5,500 kilometers.
* The fifth-generation fighter is equipped with advanced avionics to combine an automatic flight control system and a radar locator with a phased array antenna.
* The newest combat aircraft are planned to be mass produced in Komsomolsk-on-Amur from 2015.

 

[sandeepdg]

At the earliest...........Really, India may never get the Naval PAK-FA. As I wouldn't be surprised if it goes with the F-35C.

Boy, you sure are hung up on the F-35C !! Seems to me like you are actually selling it on behalf of the US government ! :emot15: By the way, if and when the AMCA is developed, a naval version will also accompany it, which I think is very much probable, though that's my opinion. There's always an option open to buy a foreign aircraft of course, if the naval PAK-FA is not forthcoming. Actually, even the Russians won't get one if we don't, and if they do, then so will we within a few years or so.

 

[Anshu Attri]

 

[nitesh]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article814932.ece

The fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), which India will build jointly with Russia, is one example of this policy.

"The FGFA programme will enable India to join the exclusive club of nations who have such weapon systems," he said. "It will give India an overkill capability over China, not to mention Pakistan."

The FGFA project marks a further shift in Indo-Russian defence ties from a buyer-seller relationship to joint design and construction of new weapons systems.

 

[vikramrana_1812]

India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters

NEW DELHI: India will eventually spend over $25 billion to induct 250 advanced stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), on way to being co-developed with Russia, in what will be the country's biggest-ever defence project.

With a potent mix of super-manoeuvrability and supersonic cruising ability, long-range strike and high-endurance air defence capabilities, each FGFA will cost upwards of Rs 450 crore or around $100 million.

This will be in addition to the huge investment to be made in co-developing FGFA with cash-strapped Russia, as also the huge infrastructure required to base, operate and maintain such jets in India.

"We are looking to induct 200 to 250 FGFA in phases from 2017 onwards,'' confirmed IAF chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik on Monday. As reported by TOI earlier, New Delhi and Moscow are looking to ink the FGFA preliminary design contract when Russian President Dmitry Medvedev comes visiting here in December.

Under intense negotiations for the last four-five years, the FGFA project will also figure in the talks between defence minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov on October 8.

Though the Indian FGFA will based on the Russian Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA, which flew for the first time this January at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur facility in Siberia, it will be built to IAF's specifications. It's already being touted as superior to the American F/A-22 `Raptor', the world's only operational FGFA as of now.

ACM Naik said the 30-tonne FGFA will be a "swing-role fighter, with very advanced avionics, stealth to increase survivability, enhanced lethality, 360 degree situational awareness, smart weapons, data-links, high-end mission computers'' and the like.

Along with 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft, which India plans to acquire in a $10.4 billion project, 270 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia for around $12 billion and 120 indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, the FGFA will be the mainstay of India's air combat fleet for the foreseeable future.

Even as the Army revises its war doctrine to factor in the worst-case scenario of a simultaneous two-front war with Pakistan and China, is IAF also preparing for the same?

"Our modernisation plans are based on the four pillars of `see, reach, hit and protect'...We prepare for a multi-faceted, multi-dimensional, multi-front war,'' said ACM Naik.

"But our approach is capability-based, not adversary-specific. Our modernisation drive is in tune with our nation's aspirations,'' he said, adding that India's strategic interests stretched "from Hormuz Strait to Malacca Strait and beyond''.

To a volley of questions on China and Pakistan, IAF chief said, "All neighbours, from the smallest to the largest, have to be watched with caution...Their capabilities have to be assessed...Anything that can upset the growth of our nation is a matter of concern.''

With the new planned inductions in the pipeline, IAF's obsolescence rate will come down to 20% by 2014-15 from the current 50% or so. "But this does not mean that we are not fully capable of defending the country from any air or space threat at the moment...We are,'' said ACM Naik.

India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters - The Times of India

 

[vikramrana_1812]

India, Russia To Hold 10th Meeting On Defense Relations

NEW DELHI - The 10th annual Indian-Russian meeting to review defense ties will be held here Oct. 7. The two sides of the India Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation will discuss wants to boost defense relations, said a senior Indian Defence Ministry official

Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov will co-chair the commission with Indian Defence Minister A.K. Antony.

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An Indian Defence Ministry release says, "the two Defence Ministers are also expected to discuss regional and global security issues. India and Russia share long-standing friendly relations. Since the establishment of a strategic partnership between the two countries in the year 2000, the two governments have steadily developed and strengthened bilateral cooperation covering a range of areas, of which defense forms a significant component. The two countries share a vibrant and a multifaceted military technical cooperation which includes not only supply of defense equipment and systems but also collaboration in [research and development] and production."

The commission, headed by the two defense ministers, was instituted in 2000 to further bilateral defense cooperation. The previous nine meetings have alternated between New Delhi and Moscow.

India and Russia have already signed an agreement committing them to military cooperation until 2020. The two countries have agreed to jointly build a fifth-generation fighter aircraft for use by both air forces.

India, Russia To Hold 10th Meeting On Defense Relations - Defense News

 

[vikramrana_1812]

Fifth Generation Fighter PAK-FA: Induction in Russian Navy not before 2020

2010-09-28 The appearance of a fifth generation fighter in Russian naval aviation will not happen before 2020, the outgoing head of the air forces and air defense forces of the Russian Navy, Lt. General Valery Uvarov told RIA Novosti on Tuesday. Previously, representatives of the armed forces command and Defense Ministry had said a new naval fighter based on the Sukhoi T.50 design could enter service around 2016.

"It's difficult to say when this aircraft will enter naval service. First it will go into service with the air force, and then be 'navalized.' To build a new aircraft from scratch costs huge money, it's irrational and not competent. Conditions might be suitable by 2020," he said. Uvarov stressed, however, that any new naval fighter would enter service only following a competition in which other designs would participate, including from the MiG, Yakovlev and Sukhoi design bureaus.

A new generation carrier fighter should enter service with the fleet not long before any new aircraft carrier on which it would be based, Uvarov said, so pilots would be ready. "The aircraft should come before a ship entering service, so pilots can train first on land, then on a special training area, then on deck," he said. He stressed that the service was still waiting to take delivery of the naval MiG-29K, which is being exported to India.

"The first two MiG-29Ks will soon be purchased in order to carry out development of their functions," he said. "I think there should be two squadrons, that is 24 MiG-29Ks and one squadron of Su-33s." The Russian navy is currently reforming its structure, with naval air forces and naval air defense being merged into one branch. Lt. General Uvarov is leaving his post as commander of both branches.

Fifth Generation Fighter PAK-FA: Induction in Russian Navy not before 2020 | India Defence

 

[Anshu Attri]

Журнал Взлет : Летные испытания ПАК ФА продолжаются


Flight tests of the PAK FA will continue


In mid-August, after a two-month break, the planned improvements, continued in Zhukovsky flight testing the first prototype of promising aviation complex tactical aircraft (PAK FA). August 31, 2010 the aircraft was demonstrated by representative Indian delegation, whose members have discussed with their Russian counterparts issues of the forthcoming a joint venture to develop and production of promising multipurpose fighter of the fifth generation (in India has a name FGFA).

An avid aerobatic complex on the T50-1 for the audience showed Honored letchikspytatel Russia Sergey Bogdan. And in September, the program tests the PAK FA joined by two other test pilot of the Sukhoi Design Bureau: Roman Kondratiev (its first flight on an airplane took place on 15 September) and Yuri Vashchuk (20 September). Expansion team of pilots who have mastered flying the new fighter will help increase the pace of trials, which are expected by year's end will be able to join the second flying example of the PAK FA. Until the end of the year and planned to sign the contract with India for the development of SIP (FGFA).