Sukhoi PAK FA

[DumbPilot]

If you actually visit that site, make sure you use a VPN.

 

[blackjack]

Supposed RCS estimated values. is this the same old information that gets posted here 1000 times or is it different this time?

 

[DumbPilot]

Supposed RCS estimated values. is this the same old information that gets posted here 1000 times or is it different this time?

You can take a scanner to an UAC manufacturing unit to confirm, but until then these are the values we have

 

[blackjack]

You can take a scanner to an UAC manufacturing unit to confirm, but until then these are the values we have

so, it's a public patent that existed and has been posted so many times here that only give values on the design structure equating the average value. Read this before you go start posting old information again on this thread. Russia Future Air Space Capabilities Part 2 | Indian Defence Forum (defenceforumindia.com)

 

[Gyyan]

If you actually visit that site, make sure you use a VPN.

It's says that su 57's rcs is of order 0.1-1 m² so what's new it was called A LO from the start still the document is old.
Don't think it's relatable now with the new upgrades su-57 is going under.

 

[blackjack]

It's says that su 57's rcs is of order 0.1-1 m² so what's new it was called A LO from the start still the document is old.
Don't think it's relatable now with the new upgrades su-57 is going under.

Also, nothing on stealth material included or frontal RCS values.

 

[DumbPilot]

It's says that su 57's rcs is of order 0.1-1 m² so what's new it was called A LO from the start still the document is old.
Don't think it's relatable now with the new upgrades su-57 is going under.

Yeah, we are not getting anything for the new one

 

[Marliii]

What's going on these warthunder forums man? All the shit that intelligence agencies would die to have are just getting passed so that in game version would be as much IRL as possible lol

 

[DumbPilot]

What's going on these warthunder forums man? All the shit that intelligence agencies would die to have are just getting passed so that in game version would be as much IRL as possible lol

The leaks don't have that much worth, in my opinion. They are minor details but not enough to form a full picture. And don't you think that big, reputed 3 character agencies would have much more information already?

We get to see leaked manuals or specifications, they most likely have intelligence on how it actually operates IRL and have devised ways to counter it.

 

[blackjack]

To prevent this thread from turning into a downwards spiral shithole again for a user treating old info like it is new info again for no devious reasons at all(sarcasm).

Multirole fighter of the fifth generation F-22 "Raptor" (modernarmy.ru)

According to the general designer of the T-50 fighter A.N. Davidenko, the EPR (effective dispersion area) of the F-22 fighter is 0.3 - 0.4 sq.m. For comparison: EPR fighters F-15 and Su-27 - about 12 sq.m, MiG-29 - 5 sq.m.

The same designer gave the Su-57 a general RCS of 0.5m2 but of course works on new engines and some modifications later in which their plans were to lower the RCS of the Su-57 value. 0.3m2 really is far off from the .0001m2 value of the F-22. But frontal RCS values are the smallest values than the back, the sides, etc they never gave frontal values (just average) on the Su-57 nor have they accounted for RAM or stealth material which further lowers RCS.

I hope I don't come back to this thread to be a tard wrangler again when we still have this discussion that was brought up 1000 times.

 

[DumbPilot]

To prevent this thread from turning into a downwards spiral shithole again for a user treating old info like it is new info again for no devious reasons at all(sarcasm).

Multirole fighter of the fifth generation F-22 "Raptor" (modernarmy.ru)

According to the general designer of the T-50 fighter A.N. Davidenko, the EPR (effective dispersion area) of the F-22 fighter is 0.3 - 0.4 sq.m. For comparison: EPR fighters F-15 and Su-27 - about 12 sq.m, MiG-29 - 5 sq.m.

The same designer gave the Su-57 a general RCS of 0.5m2 but of course works on new engines and some modifications later in which their plans were to lower the RCS of the Su-57 value. 0.3m2 really is far off from the .0001m2 value of the F-22. But frontal RCS values are the smallest values than the back, the sides, etc they never gave frontal values (just average) on the Su-57 nor have they accounted for RAM or stealth material which further lowers RCS.

I hope I don't come back to this thread to be a tard wrangler again when we still have this discussion that was brought up 1000 times.

don't worry, I'll let you stan the Su-57 in peace no need to get so insecure

 

[blackjack]

don't worry, I'll let you stan the Su-57 in peace no need to get so insecure

smart statement for a dumbpilot, but info above should be helpful in regard to how people measure shit.

 

[DumbPilot]

smart statement for a dumbpilot, but info above should be helpful in regard to how people measure shit.

Perhaps what you consider as smart is only common sense to others, but I digress

 

[blackjack]

ОКБ Сухого разработало первую деталь на основе бионического дизайна (tass.ru)

February 11, 13:00

Sukhoi Design Bureau has developed the first part based on bionic design
The aluminum power bracket is intended for the Su-57 fighter

MOSCOW, 11 February. /TASS/. The Sukhoi Design Bureau has developed the first part based on a bionic design - an aluminum power bracket for the Su-57 fighter. This was reported in the Telegram channel of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC).

"The first part based on bionic design was developed by the Sukhoi Design Bureau - an aluminum power bracket for the Su-57 fighter. This is a completely domestic development. The designers designed the part on a supercomputer. Specialists of the All-Russian Research Institute of Aviation Materials (VNIAM) from the domestic metal powder created on its basis aluminum alloy compositions printed a part on a 3D printer," the report says.

The new bracket weighs a quarter less than similar parts made using traditional technologies and was made overnight, while traditional machining of an aluminum billet would take at least a week, the company said.

As explained in the UAC, generative design is a way of designing various objects, in which solutions other than traditional solutions are used to reduce weight and increase strength. Externally, objects produced in this way differ from ordinary man-made products. They have pronounced features inherent, for example, in plants, imitate the structure of limbs or bones. That is why this design method is often called bionic design. The term "generative design" is used due to the fact that the geometry of such structures is automatically calculated, as if generated in special software.

The bionic approach to design allows for some technological processes to spend 30 or even 50% less material. This has a positive effect on the price of such products.

 

[Super Flanker]

Been a while since I last posted on this thread, but anyways here we go.

Sukhoi Su-57 "Artwork".

 

[Super Flanker]

Russia's advanced fifth generation fighter aircraft, the Su-57, is set to get an artificial intelligence (AI)-powered radio communication complex, state-owned Rostec Corporation said in a press release.

According to Rostec's press release, the complex was developed by specialists at NPP Polet, a subsidiary of Ruselectronics, and operates in high and very high-frequency ranges. It includes computing devices, mixers and intermittents, digital signal processing units, noise-resistant coding and decoding appliances, as well as signal receivers for global navigation systems, and a digital signal processing and synchronization bus.

Further, it goes on to state that equipment ensures the reliability of information transmission due to "noise-resistant coding, interleaving of characters in the message, unified time synchronization during signal processing, the possibility of simultaneous transmission of messages via parallel channels, increasing the range of stable communication, as well as the use of artificial intelligence technologies."

According to Rostec, the use of AI in radio communication aims to increase interference and intelligence protection of the onboard complex's communications. In plain speak, the AI-powered radio communication will help find the most effective wireless channels in the Su-57s vicinity and resist interference or jamming.

While that might seem like a simple application of AI, Russia isn't limited to using technology for communication alone. Earlier this year, a Russian media outlet reported that its State Research Institute of Aviation Systems had patented a technology that would provide fighter pilots with an intelligent system during combat.

Even though very few countries can boast of fifth-generation fighter planes, Russia is surely claiming the crown for using AI in its aircraft. The U.S. expects the technology to be incorporated into its sixth-generation fighter as part of its Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) Program.

The U.K., Italy, and Japan are also expected to use advanced AI on their new fighter jet dubbed Tempest, which is currently in the works and yet to make its first flight.

 

[bhramos]

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

Representative but allegedly Russia testing this.

 

[bhramos]

Ya'll Nibbiars

Representative but allegedly Russia testing this.

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[Johny_Baba]

Ya'll Nibbiars

Representative but allegedly Russia testing this.

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Photoshopped because this nozzle design is being tested by ruusis, yes but it is for their UCAV project S-70 'Hunter' (C-70 Охотник), not yet put on Su-57 or anything

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some guys with wild imaginations that ;since ruusis are developing a newer flat nozzle it may go to Su-57 and Su-75 too etc with TVC features; are making these photoshopped images