Flying Dagger
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Is there any Russian here who visit regularly ?
Sukhoi PAK FA
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bhramos
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loll you, every Ex have Indian visitors.....
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Ex ? I am talking about DFI ... This forum.
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A new compact aam meant for internal carriage by the Su-57.
It is shorter than both the RVV-SD and RVV-MD. It's length is almost 2.2 metre and Diameter is around 220 cm. RVV-SD has a length of 3.6 meters and body dia is 200 cm. This new missile retains the same lattice control fin configuration of the RVV-SD. Aka R77.
This new missile seems to have a rf seeker. It's similar to the recently unveiled Raytheon Peregrine in concept. Small compact missiles which has almost the same range as its full length predecessors through the usage of better solid propellants. And being smaller you can carry more of them in your internal hay.
A Felon will be able to carry eight such missiles in each of its main weapon bays. That means an astronomical load out of 16 missiles for the main bays.
Picture credits - Paralay
It is shorter than both the RVV-SD and RVV-MD. It's length is almost 2.2 metre and Diameter is around 220 cm. RVV-SD has a length of 3.6 meters and body dia is 200 cm. This new missile retains the same lattice control fin configuration of the RVV-SD. Aka R77.
This new missile seems to have a rf seeker. It's similar to the recently unveiled Raytheon Peregrine in concept. Small compact missiles which has almost the same range as its full length predecessors through the usage of better solid propellants. And being smaller you can carry more of them in your internal hay.
A Felon will be able to carry eight such missiles in each of its main weapon bays. That means an astronomical load out of 16 missiles for the main bays.
Picture credits - Paralay
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I hope Russia offer this in mrca 2.0 competition instead of mig35. It will have a higher chance to win
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That is highly optimistic dreaming.
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Dude, atleast they are doing it.
Dreaming or realizing.
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1. That's still a big missile for Western standards;
2. Peregrine is trimode seeker while this Russian project is rf seeker.
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https://in.reuters.com/article/russ...fighter-jet-suffers-first-crash-idINKBN1YS18G
Russia's most advanced Su-57 fighter jet suffers first crash
One of Russia's Sukhoi Su-57 stealth fighter jets crashed on Tuesday in the Far East during a test flight, the plane's maker said, the first accident of its kind involving what is the country's most advanced warplane.
Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), which owns the factory which makes the plane, said the incident took place in the Khabarovsk Region and that the pilot ejected safely.
The Defence Ministry will set up a commission to investigate the accident, which looked like it was caused by a failure in the steering system, the TASS news agency cited two military sources as saying
The lost plane was one of the first of its kind to be mass-produced and was due to be handed over to the Russian air force by the end of this year, the Interfax news agency reported, citing a source.
Exactly this one -
Russia's most advanced Su-57 fighter jet suffers first crash
One of Russia's Sukhoi Su-57 stealth fighter jets crashed on Tuesday in the Far East during a test flight, the plane's maker said, the first accident of its kind involving what is the country's most advanced warplane.
Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), which owns the factory which makes the plane, said the incident took place in the Khabarovsk Region and that the pilot ejected safely.
The Defence Ministry will set up a commission to investigate the accident, which looked like it was caused by a failure in the steering system, the TASS news agency cited two military sources as saying
The lost plane was one of the first of its kind to be mass-produced and was due to be handed over to the Russian air force by the end of this year, the Interfax news agency reported, citing a source.
Exactly this one -
Photo of the first fifth-generation serial fighter Su-57 for the Russian Aerospace Forces
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Unfortunate but not surprising at all considering the aircraft has been flying for 10 years, including three deployments to Syria while constantly getting new software and hardware upgrades.
The SU-57 has been expanding its flight envelope throughout its lifetime, it’s constantly being pushed harder and faster; something that would cause many other aircraft to suffer structural damage.
The SU-35 also suffered a crash during its development. Let’s all be grateful that they at least disclose this information, they easily could have just covered up the loss and hastily push the aircraft in to production long ago.
A little off topic but relevant. China pushed the J-20 into service in only about 6 years
the F-35A took 11 years, the SU-57 10+ years, F-22 about 8 years (15 of you count the YF-22). It’s likely the J-20 flew much earlier then the Chinese admitted to but because of problems and crashes they only revealed the ‘first flight’ when they worked out the problems. Case in point, at least Russia is open, honest and thorough in testing, they could have went the Chinese route and negligently pushed a largely untested platform into service, even worse is that the Chinese have been known to steal foreign technology and incorporate it into their aircraft which is even worse because they not only stole technology but then did not test it properly and incorporated in into a foreign aircraft.
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The ones flying around are all prototypes(10).
The one that crashed was the first serial produced aircraft. I have tagged the picture as well. It was the only airframe to be delivered to the Air force in 2019.
The more likely reason they revealed is because it was widely advertised and appreciated as the first aircraft to become in service with an active squadron. Too many people followed info about it, so much so that it would've been impossible to keep the crash under the covers, it literally was the only airframe to be delivered in 2019.
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It does not matter, it was still being tested by Sukhoi before it was to be delivered. I am was aware which model crashed, I knew about it days ago, actually I was aware of the crash within hours and I seen that serial production model weeks ago. Case in point, it was acknowledged right away, this isn’t communist China or some Islamic dictatorship like Pakistan or Iran.
No it would not be impossible to hide the crash. The SU-57 crashes in an unpopulated area, no one seen anything. It was Sukhoi that came forward and acknowledged it. If Russia really wanted to they could have kept it a secret and just made an excuse about delays and then produced another aircraft and gave it the same designation. The Iranians were masters with hiding their aircraft losses to Iraqis in the 1980s, to this day its difficult to know how many aircraft they actually lost, they even erased their top F-14 tacticianer from history after he was shot down by an Iraqi.
Countries have hid much bigger secrets then an aircraft crashing. Such as nuclear programs, nuclear disasters, and many covert operations.
