Sukhoi PAK FA

[gadeshi]

It's NOT T-50-6-2, but photo is georgeus:

 

[SajeevJino]

aww.. from Jha

Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618

Who has supported AMCA all these years? Who has reported about issues with the FGFA program?

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[gadeshi]

T-50-6-2 (1-062) was taken off for its maiden flight by Sukhoi/KNAAZ test pilot Taras Artsebarskiy:
http://www.sukhoi.org/company/people/pilots/arcebarski_ta/

 

[SajeevJino]

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aww..looking for the photos .. expecting any design changes @gadeshi

 

[Gessler]

The delay in getting photos of the latest prototype is not normal - with almost all earlier prototype first-flights, we got clear pics on the day of the flight itself. Obviously they are being deliberately suppressed from going out to the public.

@gadeshi You should infiltrate the KnAAPO compound and take the pictures! That's if the plane hasn't already been moved somewhere else...

 

[BON PLAN]

Weapons trials with dumb bombs outside (T-50-2 1-02 carries 6 OFAB-250-270):

and with R-77-1 (Item 177) + R-73RMD-2:

and a render with 8 x Item 180 + 2 x K-300 and FSBs open:

and with Kh-31PD + R-73RMD-2:

And T-50-5 (1-05):

and some artist render:

A stealth aircraft with unguided WW2 bombs under the wings ??? not realistic.

 

[garg_bharat]

A stealth aircraft with unguided WW2 bombs under the wings ??? not realistic.

Why not? Does not mean these are the only weapons.

 

[gadeshi]

The delay in getting photos of the latest prototype is not normal - with almost all earlier prototype first-flights, we got clear pics on the day of the flight itself. Obviously they are being deliberately suppressed from going out to the public.

@gadeshi You should infiltrate the KnAAPO compound and take the pictures! That's if the plane hasn't already been moved somewhere else...

I like Splinter Cell, but cannot go 12000km to Komsomolsk on Amur now

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[gadeshi]

A stealth aircraft with unguided WW2 bombs under the wings ??? not realistic.

Look at F-35 trials then

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[smestarz]

Look at F-35 trials then

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The French dont have a Stealth plane but a 4th Gen plane that they are trying to pimp off like a 5th Gen plane so they are new to this. Pardon his stupidity

 

[gadeshi]

Weapons are weapons you need to certify and test as wide arsenal as possible.

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[sasum]

It's NOT T-50-6-2, but photo is georgeus:

It seems a painting, not a photograph.

 

[sasum]

Look at F-35 trials then

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What perhaps @BON PLAN means is real stealth planes like B-2 Spirit & F-117 hide their munitions inside bay to minimize RCS.

 

[gadeshi]

What perhaps @BON PLAN means is real stealth planes like B-2 Spirit & F-117 hide their munitions inside bay to minimize RCS.

There were internal weapons trials started in July 2015 and continue. Item-180, R-74M2, Kh-58UShK, KAB-250/500, Kh-38M, Kh-36/36P and Kh-59M2 have been already fire tested including supersonic delivery.
However, T-50 MWBs aerodynamical layout and configuration are steel secret to not to disclose measures that make all-altitude all-speed supersonic delivery possible.
So, we can see not secret external stores delivery tests photos and videos so far.
Be patient please, we'll see MWBs insude photos in the proper time

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[BON PLAN]

The French dont have a Stealth plane but a 4th Gen plane that they are trying to pimp off like a 5th Gen plane so they are new to this. Pardon his stupidity

Smestarz is only able to hate Rafale, day after day, and forum after forum.
He don't even know perfectly why...

At least never seen a Rafale with non guided bombs.... It's outdated.

A 5th gen fighter delivering 1st gen bombs....

 

[BON PLAN]

Weapons are weapons you need to certify and test as wide arsenal as possible.

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Strange you began tests with dummy bombs. Marketingly speaking it would be nicer to carry more modern bombs.
This config will never be used. No one will risk a 5th gen fighter in low flight bombing.

 

[BON PLAN]

The French dont have a Stealth plane but a 4th Gen plane that they are trying to pimp off like a 5th Gen plane so they are new to this. Pardon his stupidity

You know perfectly where you can put the french stupidity. Mine specially.

 

[smestarz]

Smestarz is only able to hate Rafale, day after day, and forum after forum.
He don't even know perfectly why...

At least never seen a Rafale with non guided bombs.... It's outdated.

A 5th gen fighter delivering 1st gen bombs....

I am among some of the indians who are logical, why would i hate an inanimate object like a plane?
If you trip over a stone, do you start to hate the stone, or tell yourself to watch your step? Even if a plane is cute, one does not go about humping it and expect it to deliver babies. This is me making point.

Your wingman has been shot down and hence you are grieving, thats OK.

Like I said before, and repeating it for idiot like you,
1. We do not need Rafales, nor do we need any new 4th Gen plane with Twin engines etc.
2. What we need is to get Tejas operational and to induct in big nos, that takes care of the numbers part.
3. For the capability part, we already have enough to shake pakistan at its very roots.
4. Since we are already a decade in 5th Gen, buying an expensive 4th Gen plane is ideas of nearsighted officers.
Now you can ask me "Are IAF stupid to want Rafale, do I know better than IAF chief" then I might just point to Agusta Westland case it was IAF chief who selected it himself and it was also a "want" and the best part is that his cousins and politicans made kickbacks.. So do I know more than IAF chief? Maybe not about combat, but maybe I do know more about what we need and want.

Based on what what our IAF chiefs talked about two front etc. Would IAF be able to face china with its present fleet? No, and that is why they say we need Rafale.. Even with Rafale can IAF face china? Are you kidding, Rafale is only for Western sector. So what is the point in buying the plane that really does not answer our problem?
On other hand would plane Like PAKFA/FGFA be the answer? At least the Chinese wont be going against a 5th Gen plane if they dont have fair chance of winning.

 

[smestarz]

Strange you began tests with dummy bombs. Marketingly speaking it would be nicer to carry more modern bombs.
This config will never be used. No one will risk a 5th gen fighter in low flight bombing.

It is always better to have a plane certified for as many weapons as possible,
Lets say Rafale for example, French are not planning to use METEOR, why are you certifying it for Rafale? There are lot of things the French apparently "do not need" but they are nevertheless trying to get them certified too,

Also there might be a chance that even Stealth planes might be detected and in that case, its really helpful if your plane can carry more loads even externally and not depend on conformal or stealth load only

 

[pmaitra]

Any more flamebaiting, and a ban will follow.