Small arms and Light Weapons

When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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another_armchair

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Looks pure sax.
Ye bakchod sarkar 9 mm allow Kyu nahi kar deti civilians ke liye.
Aise bhi Juggad karne pe mil hi jati he local.
Taki public ko sasta 9mm ammo asaani se na milay.

9mm is the mainstay for sarkari handguns and smgs and are in plentiful supply.

Men in uniform may start selling govt. quota ammo to civilians for a fee.

Mauka milne par toh afsar log sarkari gaadi ke tyre bech dete hain ya apni/ya kisi rishtedaar ke gaadi mein bhi lagwa lete hain.
 

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Looks pure sax.
Ye bakchod sarkar 9 mm allow Kyu nahi kar deti civilians ke liye.
Aise bhi Juggad karne pe mil hi jati he local.
Taki public ko sasta 9mm ammo asaani se na milay.

9mm is the mainstay for sarkari handguns and smgs and are in plentiful supply.

Men in uniform may start selling govt. quota ammo to civilians for a fee.

Mauka milne par toh afsar log sarkari gaadi ke tyre bech dete hain ya apni/ya kisi rishtedaar ke gaadi mein bhi lagwa lete hain.
Your answer is logically correct but this is not the actual case.

Moreover in countries like India where there's always a soldier standing with a baseball cap next to a soldier shooting to catch all spent cases do you really think actual ammo won't be accounted for?

This concept of having some prohibited bore and some non-prohibited one is an old British concept that's followed by only a few nations. In all other countries there's either a full relaxation on weapon or you can only own 12 gauges and .22LR.

Basis of this old British concept?
If something is a "military caliber" then it's going to be much more deadly then "civilian caliber" so don't allow the civilian to own it.

Results of this stupid concept?
In India it's illegal to own a 9mm but it's legal to own a 7.63x25mm Tokarev and .45 ACP both of which are relatively more deadly.
 

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Your answer is logically correct but this is not the actual case.

Moreover in countries like India where there's always a soldier standing with a baseball cap next to a soldier shooting to catch all spent cases do you really think actual ammo won't be accounted for?

This concept of having some prohibited bore and some non-prohibited one is an old British concept that's followed by only a few nations. In all other countries there's either a full relaxation on weapon or you can only own 12 gauges and .22LR.

Basis of this old British concept?
If something is a "military caliber" then it's going to be much more deadly then "civilian caliber" so don't allow the civilian to own it.

Results of this stupid concept?
In India it's illegal to own a 9mm but it's legal to own a 7.63x25mm Tokarev and .45 ACP both of which are relatively more deadly.
Intention of separating service grade ammo from civilian ammo was to prevent pilferage/leakage by inscrutable servicemen.

Lethality of bore wasn't the reason.

The .45 is deadly.
 

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Bruh...at least read it once na
Bhai sahab, so you are saying that although the army uses 9 mm, the law automatically deems the 9mm a military cartridge, so it is prohibited for possession by civillians
On the other hand, 7.62×25 mm tokarev or. 45 Acp calibre weapon is allowed for possession by civillians, as it is not a official military cartridge.
I suggest the 7.62×25 mm tokarev and. 45 Acp weapons should also be prohibited for possession by the civillians except in disturbed areas, where civillians should be duly trained to handle these weapons under government supervison.
 

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.38 and .22 seems to be a safe bet for civillians.
IA does not use any of these either.

I have always thought anarchy and riot was the main concern from prevention of arms.
 

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Bhai sahab, so you are saying that although the army uses 9 mm, the law automatically deems the 9mm a military cartridge, so it is prohibited for possession by civillians
On the other hand, 7.62×25 mm tokarev or. 45 Acp calibre weapon is allowed for possession by civillians, as it is not a official military cartridge.
I suggest the 7.62×25 mm tokarev and. 45 Acp weapons should also be prohibited for possession by the civillians except in disturbed areas, where civillians should be duly trained to handle these weapons under government supervison.
Jee Bhai Jaan...it's like the woke and liberal definition of assault rifle; if it looks like the military M4 then it's deadly but old woody looking Ruger Mini14 is all fine...despite both having the same potential of killing a US school class of 30 students in under a minute.

"If military used a cartridge then it's way too deadly for civilian use because...military use it right" this is the logic behind PB or Prohibited Bores. The person drafting those are not from military background, they are from UPSC background...more or less civilian, so they don't have this much knowledge.

@another_armchair said it's there to prevent proliferation, lemme give an example to prove why it's not.

.455 Webley is currently listed as a Prohibited Bore. But interestingly no one uses it in Army so there's no fear of proliferation. Then why?
Because once it was used in Webley revolvers so despite no fear of leak coz existing ammo stores got destroyed it's still a "deadly" calibre because military used to have it.
 

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