Small arms and Light Weapons

[The Shrike]

^^^
What's with the black (paint?).

 

[Lonewarrior]

Nicee

 

[Johny_Baba]

BTW does the PLA use MMGs? After having watched all quite a few videos I don't remember seeing any (they always show either the rifle or their .50 cal HMG, or their grenade launcher).

keeping hardcore definitions of what an MMG is and so, focusing on calibre they indeed do have local made PK//PKM in 7.62x54mmR and also local made variants of FN MAG (yeah) in 7.62 NATO

finally they have some 5.8x42mm chambered belt fed machine gun and LMG variant of QBZ-95 in magazine//drum fed configuration as GPMG-ish role, both of these are given "Heavy" version of 5.8x42mm

 

[Johny_Baba]

^^^
What's with the black (paint?).

That's casing bhaee...steel cased ammo

 

[Love Charger]

Nicee

Noice

 

[Lonewarrior]

^^^
What's with the black (paint?).

That's lacquer coating on steel.
The steel used in ammo casings is very mild so you have a huge corrosion problem. That's why Russians use a thick layer of black or olive green or green or yellowish or clear lacquer.

 

[Marliii]

Nicee

 

[Vayuputra]

View attachment 117728
Standard issue Indian ammo on the right , standard issue Chinese ammo on the left .
Indian ammo is 7.62 ×39 and Chinese one is 5.8 × 42

All this while i was in an assumption that we use brass cased ammo, never knew that steel csed ammo is stndrd issued ammo for our forces,

 

[Love Charger]

All this while i was in an assumption that we use brass cased ammo, never knew that steel csed ammo is stndrd issued ammo for our forces,

We use brass case , ammo only that pic is for representative purposes.

 

[shiphone]

actually that‘s a typical chinese type1956 7.62*39mm ball vs a first Gen 5.8mm

normally two types of cases were mass manufactured simultaneously : Copper clad steel case & lacquer coated steel one

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here is the 'other' one , but not brass case..

 

[Love Charger]

actually that‘s a typical chinese type1956 7.62*39mm ball vs a first Gen 5.8mm

normally two types of cases were mass manufactured simultaneously : Copper clad steel case & lacquer coated steel one

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here is the 'other' one , but not brass case..

Can you give more pics of the 5.8 mm ammo and what you mean by first generation ?

 

[Love Charger]

Average ammo bust in cashmere .
What happens to these bullets ?

 

[Lonewarrior]

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Average ammo bust in cashmere .
What happens to these bullets ?

We waste nothing

 

[shiphone]

BTW does the PLA use MMGs? After having watched all quite a few videos I don't remember seeing any (they always show either the rifle or their .50 cal HMG, or their grenade launcher).

first PLA Army has NO any .50 HMG but loads of 12.7*108 HMGs

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the so called western standard 'belt-fed Medium GP machine gun seems to be some kind of unicorn IN PLA Army...lol...but it's always there...

in early ages ,there were the Type 67 and the improved Type 67-2 7.62mm*54R.

then here is the successor- QJY88 5.8mm（heavy Projectile）...but attention: the the LMG/Squad level MG NORMALLY does NOT fire this so called Heavy 5.8mm . the another 'user' of this heavy 5.8mm is QBU88 DMR.

standard 5.8mm Projectile and heavy Projectile

and now, you may see the NATO7.62 mediun GP MG here...

 

[Love Charger]

first PLA Army has NO any .50 HMG but loads of 12.7*108 HMGs

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the so called western standard 'belt-fed Medium GP machine gun seems to be some kind of unicorn IN PLA Army...lol...but it's always there...

in early years ,there were the Type 67 and the improved Type 67-2 7.62mm*54R.

then here is the successor- QJY88 5.8mm（heavy Projectile）...but attention: the the LMG/Squad level MG NORMALLY does NOT fire this so called Heavy 5.8mm . the another 'user' of this heavy 5.8mm is QBU88 DMR.

standard 5.8mm Projectile and heavy Projectile

and now, you may see the NATO7.62 mediun GP MG here...

So pla has 12.7 mm HMG s but not any .50 bmg HMGs , nice.

 

[Love Charger]

first PLA Army has NO any .50 HMG but loads of 12.7*108 HMGs

-------------
the so called western standard 'belt-fed Medium GP machine gun seems to be some kind of unicorn IN PLA Army...lol...but it's always there...

in early years ,there were the Type 67 and the improved Type 67-2 7.62mm*54R.

then here is the successor- QJY88 5.8mm（heavy Projectile）...but attention: the the LMG/Squad level MG NORMALLY does NOT fire this so called Heavy 5.8mm . the another 'user' of this heavy 5.8mm is QBU88 DMR.

standard 5.8mm Projectile and heavy Projectile

and now, you may see the NATO7.62 mediun GP MG here...

Can this 7.62 ammo used in type 56 rifles , Indian army uses many type 56s .

 

[Lonewarrior]

Can this 7.62 ammo used in type 56 rifles , Indian army uses many type 56s .

7.62x51mm
Type 56 is 7.62x39mm

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

In HMG role, IA too uses both 12.7*99 HMG and 12.7*108 NSVT. In addition, we also have old 14.5*114 KPVT. All are deployed along LOC. In some sectors along LOC, even 40 mm L-70 canon is used in bunker busting roles.

 

[Love Charger]

7.62x51mm
Type 56 is 7.62x39mm

Oh

 

[Love Charger]

In HMG role, IA too uses both 12.7*99 HMG and 12.7*108 NSVT. In addition, we also have old 14.5*114 KPVT. All are deployed along LOC. In some sectors along LOC, even 40 mm L-70 canon is used in bunker busting roles.

Yes , even we call .50bmg as 12.7 mm cartridge .
I wonder why we never adopted our own ammo