Small arms and Light Weapons

[itsme]

Hope they put in an order for Arad, for Para SF and Marcos.

 

[JBH22]

Hope they put in an order for Arad, for Para SF and Marcos.

Then after some time they find that performance is sub-optimal like with Tavor.
India has limited budget no chills or thrills, get the AK 203 add all bells and whistles to it. Trial and error stop.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Then after some time they find that performance is sub-optimal like with Tavor.
India has limited budget no chills or thrills, get the AK 203 add all bells and whistles to it. Trial and error stop.

Arad is already being used by some countries. But I want SiG MCX for SF.

 

[Marliii]

Then after some time they find that performance is sub-optimal like with Tavor.
India has limited budget no chills or thrills, get the AK 203 add all bells and whistles to it. Trial and error stop.

That watered down shit that is straight out of 90s and also for special forces

 

[JBH22]

That watered down shit that is straight out of 90s and also for special forces

I said Ak 203 will all the bells and whistles not the one slated for para military.
If you see Russian Alfa with AK, they are doing pretty well. I think below is well suited for NSG, MARCOS

 

[FalconSlayers]

I said Ak 203 will all the bells and whistles not the one slated for para military.
If you see Russian Alfa with AK, they are doing pretty well. I think below is well suited for NSG, MARCOS

View attachment 117209

 

[Marliii]

I said Ak 203 will all the bells and whistles not the one slated for para military.
If you see Russian Alfa with AK, they are doing pretty well. I think below is well suited for NSG, MARCOS

View attachment 117209

They do a lot of modifications on them that's its more costly than an fully decked arad.alfa group upgrades aks are all high end stuff to make them into viable for spec ops

 

[Tactical Doge]

I said Ak 203 will all the bells and whistles not the one slated for para military.
If you see Russian Alfa with AK, they are doing pretty well. I think below is well suited for NSG, MARCOS

View attachment 117209

NSG doesn't need AKs, I'd rather have them moving on to SBRs now, chambered in 5.56,

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Let's say the foreign partner in a firearms company decides to abandon JV for whatever reason. What happens to the Indian Partner capability to produce guns, do they own joint IP or license to still manufacture them. Or they have to design their own new small arms.
Always wondered how much does a JV helps in terms of knowledge imparting and capability building?? As all important future procurement like FRCV, FICV and almost everything are under Make 2.

 

[JBH22]

They do a lot of modifications on them that's its more costly than an fully decked arad.alfa group upgrades aks are all high end stuff to make them into viable for spec ops

Well it is for our Tier 1 force like NSG or Marcos. So all these bells and whistle can be provided by SSS defence.
But going back to new and unproven design like ARAD will become another unfruitful attempt we saw with TAVOR.

NSG doesn't need AKs, I'd rather have them moving on to SBRs now, chambered in 5.56,

With Heckler & Koch and FN Herstal becoming woke. We need to have stable arm suppliers not hypocrites who will provide Pakistan with guns and lecture us about human rights.
That leaves us with limited offers, either USA or Russia.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Don't know much about Small weapons but Sig Sauer walon ka bhi phat gaya hoga, yeh tommy kya hai

Sig Sauer wale toh saalo se peeche pade the bhai,
read old chats with Sig Sauer CEO wife or such search terms,
pura bribery waalaa ghotaalaa maarne aaye the jab hum multi cal rifle waalaa tendar nikaale the

tab se jaa ke ab mauka mila unko, aur idhar yeh 21 saal ka Tom sochta hain ki 7.62x54mmR waali AK bech paaega woh Indian Army ko jab ki unhone SIG751, Tavor-7 aur even Kalashnikov Concern ka AK-308 ko rejekt maaraa thaa...aur mujko "JEALOUS" bolta hain lol

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Well it is for our Tier 1 force like NSG or Marcos. So all these bells and whistle can be provided by SSS defence.
But going back to new and unproven design like ARAD will become another unfruitful attempt we saw with TAVOR.

Buddy, you do know that IWI Arad is just a regular AR-15 short stroke gas piston gun, there’s nothing unproven about its design unlike the Tavor which was completely new to them. IWI has being making few types AR-15 pattern guns for the US Civilian market so it’s not like they’re going in blind.

 

[Covfefe]

Sig Sauer wale toh saalo se peeche pade the bhai,
read old chats with Sig Sauer CEO wife or such search terms,
pura bribery waalaa ghotaalaa maarne aaye the jab hum multi cal rifle waalaa tendar nikaale the

tab se jaa ke ab mauka mila unko, aur idhar yeh 21 saal ka Tom sochta hain ki 7.62x54mmR waali AK bech paaega woh Indian Army ko jab ki unhone SIG751, Tavor-7 aur even Kalashnikov Concern ka AK-308 ko rejekt maaraa thaa...aur mujko "JEALOUS" bolta hain lol

Meanwhile paan-chewing, chameli ka tel donning, safari suit wala Babu- Eee MoD hai babua, yahan Vendor ek par se hardware banata hai aur doosre se delays bachata hai

 

[Tang]

Let's say the foreign partner in a firearms company decides to abandon JV for whatever reason. What happens to the Indian Partner capability to produce guns, do they own joint IP or license to still manufacture them. Or they have to design their own new small arms.
Always wondered how much does a JV helps in terms of knowledge imparting and capability building?? As all important future procurement like FRCV, FICV and almost everything are under Make 2.

Depending on the know-how transferred, but the Indian partner could relaunch the product under its own brand.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Let's say the foreign partner in a firearms company decides to abandon JV for whatever reason. What happens to the Indian Partner capability to produce guns, do they own joint IP or license to still manufacture them. Or they have to design their own new small arms.
Always wondered how much does a JV helps in terms of knowledge imparting and capability building?? As all important future procurement like FRCV, FICV and almost everything are under Make 2.

There are two factors equally working in these JV things.

1. The foreign firms never share critical technology/confidential manufacturing techniques/IPR.
2. The Indian firms are never interested in these kinds of BS like IPR and R&D. They simply want to put a Made in India tag, increase their markup and enjoy life.

So in a typical JV neither the foreign firm is interested in imparting knowledge; nor the Indian firm is interested in R&D.

In case a JV fails, either one of the two things happen.

1. The Indian firms start making non-defence products that they were making before that JV.

2. They try to copy that foreign firms product. Get sued by them. And start making non-defence products that they were making before that JV.

 

[Marliii]

Well it is for our Tier 1 force like NSG or Marcos. So all these bells and whistle can be provided by SSS defence.
But going back to new and unproven design like ARAD will become another unfruitful attempt we saw with TAVOR.


With Heckler & Koch and FN Herstal becoming woke. We need to have stable arm suppliers not hypocrites who will provide Pakistan with guns and lecture us about human rights.
That leaves us with limited offers, either USA or Russia.

Bhai tavour was first of its line product using the longstroke system ,being a bullpup all where quite new back then.we were its test pigs. They proved it through our feedbacks. arad is just a an shortstroke ar15 rifle like the hk416

 

[Marliii]

 

[MisraZ]

Lot of comments suggest that it is present to prevent suicides

 

[FalconSlayers]

Lot of comments suggest that it is present to prevent suicides

How does it prevent suicides?