Small arms and Light Weapons

[Aditya Ballal]

now am sure some very 'mota matha' is behind this project,
bekoze tonbo etc also had singaporean konnekshun when they started their bijness

The best of business and investment minds are from Singapore so…

 

[The Shrike]

So they are going from selling, marketing and maintaining arms to civilians, banks etc to manufacturing LMT rifles? Umm... Ok.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

So they are going from selling, marketing and maintaining arms to civilians, banks etc to manufacturing LMT rifles? Umm... Ok.
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Still better than a firm which has absolutely no experience with firearms, atleast they’ll have armorers who have some experience in handling and maintaining firearms, considering we have a negligible civil firearms market, these guys and others like them are the next best bet after OFB units.

 

[FalconSlayers]

i wonder who's behind this that he's been able to pull out successful (? yet to be seen) JV with one of the biggest small arms manufacturer that LMT is while even SSSD was later made to back off citing ITAR and what not...
and what's with the name 'Wery Win' huh sounds so gei...

about pairing with both Gilboa (of Israel) and LMT of the US of A, i think it would be offered in two segments,
Gilboa stuff for police, paramilitary etc
and LMT stuff for the Armed Forces,
mainly because Gilboa company itself is made up from retired IDF personnel who aimed to improvise their police forces' equipments with modern AR stuff made at 'home', while LMT is...well LMT.
Also this kind of deal of bringing same-similar products from two manufacturers seems like an 'insurance' stuff that if one backs off citing ITAR { LMT } then other could potentially still provide very similar stuff (both Gilboa and LMT makes 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO AR pattern firearms to start with)

overall nice idea, hope in future those SIG-716i we bought could be supplemented by LMT//Gilboa made stuff here {eventually overtaken}... but with many things happening here being too much hopeful is also a curse to have...

and yes, 7.62x39mm AR from Gilboa;
AK-203 deal is definitely dangered now.

Sorry, I wrote it wrongly, they have invested in UP Defence Corridor to make these, not yet in production.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Sorry, I wrote it wrongly, they have invested in UP Defence Corridor to make these, not yet in production.

@Johny_Baba they have invested 215 crore in Jhansi node of defence corridor, also they will be making ARs in 6.5 creedmoor and 6.8 SPC, so another plus point, CMT is already making CZ BRENs in Chennai, wonder how are they earning profits, maybe targetting civilian market or these companies are making here for lower cost of production for exports.

 

[Flying Dagger]

The best of business and investment minds are from Singapore so…

More so related with taxation etc they keep headoffice address/reg in Singapore while operating in India.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Also don’t think you noticed they’re also selling pistols from the Israeli firm EMTAN.

Yep i saw that, those guys are also quite similar to Gilboa, makes various flavours of AR etc,
but seems Gilboa is able to grab bigger partnership than them.

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With this we have made some JVs with almost all popular firearms platforms in circulation,
>AK -> Kalashnikov Concern + OFB ; Arsenal Inc. + Kalyani ; Various OFBs making their own AKs; SSSD (?)
>AR - 15 -> Taurus of Brazil + Jindal ; SSSD (?) ; IWI + PLR ; Gilboa + { Emtan ? } + LMT + Wery Win
>AR - 18 -> Astr Defense { with their 'Indra' SCAR pattern rifles } ; CMT { with their Cz-807 stuffs }; {SSSD (?)}
>AUG -> Thales + MKU (?)
perhaps what is remaining is those 'roller delayed blowback' pattern guns like MP-5 and so, bring that here some way and it'll be the end for some kraut embargoists
besides, i wish to see south korean Daewoo + Dasan weapons here, anybody interested in getting the JV with them ?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Yep i saw that, those guys are also quite similar to Gilboa, makes various flavours of AR etc,
but seems Gilboa is able to grab bigger partnership than them.

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With this we have made some JVs with almost all popular firearms platforms in circulation,
>AK -> Kalashnikov Concern + OFB ; Arsenal Inc. + Kalyani ; Various OFBs making their own AKs; SSSD (?)
>AR - 15 -> Taurus of Brazil + Jindal ; SSSD (?) ; IWI + PLR ; Gilboa + { Emtan ? } + LMT + Wery Win
>AR - 18 -> Astr Defense { with their 'Indra' SCAR pattern rifles } ; CMT { with their Cz-807 stuffs }; {SSSD (?)}
>AUG -> Thales + MKU (?)
perhaps what is remaining is those 'roller delayed blowback' pattern guns like MP-5 and so, bring that here some way and it'll be the end for some kraut embargoists
besides, i wish to see south korean Daewoo + Dasan weapons here, anybody interested in getting the JV with them ?

If I’m not wrong the bankrupt Ambanis(Anil) company had a partnership with Daewoo, but ig it’s a no go now.

 

[Johny_Baba]

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[Lonewarrior]

It's weird, but I'm forced to ask, why people get so excited on hearing about a JV!?

Trials will starts.
The OEM will supply the product from its facility.
If it gets the contract, then both parties will come back again on the JV terms.
Again a long negotiation will take place.
Then they will start the tooling process.
Numerous setbacks will be there during that. QC issues.
Then only they will start "making"

Signing of JV is not synonymous to manufacturing.

I've seen plethora of JVs getting signed, news portals and fanboys fapping, and that's it. No one even remembers.

Even Lewis Machine Tools once had a JV with SSS Defence.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

 

[Marliii]

 

[FalconSlayers]

This red dot sight’s IP is owned by an Indian company and is made here, by Paras Defence.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Red Dot Reflex sight | Paras Defence & Space Technologies Ltd.

www.parasdefence.com

 

[FalconSlayers]

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[Aditya Ballal]

www.ozaktech.com Indian Startup
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Small problem

 

[Aditya Ballal]

@Johny_Baba and others, any idea does the ARDE 5.56X45MM Carbine have an ambidextrous safety? I know the Amogh Carbine has this feature. Couldn’t find much more reliable info on this. The most in depth article/info regarding this gun I could find was from Kalashnikov’s rep Vladimir Onokoys article on TFB, but even he doesn’t mention anything about this.

[DEFEXPO 2020] New Indian CQB Carbine from Ordnance Factory Board -

Unlike its predecessors, new OFB CQB carbine presented at DEFEXPO 2020 looks much better and resembles a SIG 553, with its milled receiver, short handguard and side-folding stock.

www.thefirearmblog.com

And if Alpha Defense is right regarding ARDE hunting for a private partner to manufacture the gun is true, it could have a future atleast for state police forces or CAPFs and maybe a modernised version later for the Army.

 

[Johny_Baba]

@Johny_Baba and others, any idea does the ARDE 5.56X45MM Carbine have an ambidextrous safety? I know the Amogh Carbine has this feature. Couldn’t find much more reliable info on this. The most in depth article/info regarding this gun I could find was from Kalashnikov’s rep Vladimir Onokoys article on TFB, but even he doesn’t mention anything about this.

[DEFEXPO 2020] New Indian CQB Carbine from Ordnance Factory Board -

Unlike its predecessors, new OFB CQB carbine presented at DEFEXPO 2020 looks much better and resembles a SIG 553, with its milled receiver, short handguard and side-folding stock.

www.thefirearmblog.com

And if Alpha Defense is right regarding ARDE hunting for a private partner to manufacture the gun is true, it could have a future atleast for state police forces or CAPFs and maybe a modernised version later for the Army.

The answer is yes, if you trust me then i cofirm that it can be made ambidextrous by affixing a selector piece upon this cross-pin protuding out at right side here,

in fact they even made OFB R-2 rifle in similar fasion to provide 'on demand' ambidextrousity to fire selector

 

[Aditya Ballal]

The answer is yes, if you trust me then i cofirm that it can be made ambidextrous by affixing a selector piece upon this cross-pin protuding out at right side here,
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in fact they even made OFB R-2 rifle in similar fasion to provide 'on demand' ambidextrousity to fire selector
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Thanks, atleast someone had the brains to atleast leave a provision for it in ARDE.

 

[Johny_Baba]

mods @ezsasa @ALBY @LurkerBaba @Kunal Biswas dada and all,

wanted to ask this before going ahead,
would a thread on 3-D printed firearms-weaponry be accepted here ? Asking since i feel posting-sharing much info regd it would be a little dangerous or even involving legal things, though in this age and time every such info is available on internet at some clicks so yeah...