Small arms and Light Weapons

When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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Sourajit Dutta

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'If I ever find out that this photo has been sourced from an open source and passed off as Chattisgarh Police STF, I will hang you upside down'.
Except the 'passed off as CG Police' part, translation's accurate 😂 I know both of 'em, and what the reply meant was, "if you've posted an open source pic (from DFI & other forums) & PASSED IT OFF AS EXCLUSIVE WITH YOUR WATERMARK".
Ankit got pissed off cause many Instagram page admins just download pics & slap on an Watermark!
 

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Why does the FAL mod of FAB Defense not have a rail section on the top cover(most FAL mods actually)? Also why have the positioned the stock at that angle? Any particular reasons? Thanks in advance.
Hhmm maybe two reasons, but first answering second question,
refer to this cutout pic of this SLR (although applicable to all fixed stock FALs)
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you see the reason ? because its recoil spring is housed inside the buttstock in angled way, so yeah 🤷‍♂️ you gotta need an angled buttstock for that, and same reason also applies for first question, because FAL/SLR fixed buttstock version's top cover is just a stamped metal sheet cover while FAL/SLR PARA version's top cover is also housing recoil spring within it, also cuts made on receivers for both top covers are slightly different, so this mod seems to be aimed at fixed stock FAL/SLR rifles only, keeping the potential top cover incompability between two variants on side at this moment etc.
 

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Hhmm maybe two reasons, but first answering second question,
refer to this cutout pic of this SLR (although applicable to all fixed stock FALs)
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you see the reason ? because its recoil spring is housed inside the buttstock in angled way, so yeah 🤷‍♂️ you gotta need an angled buttstock for that, and same reason also applies for first question, because FAL/SLR fixed buttstock version's top cover is just a stamped metal sheet cover while FAL/SLR PARA version's top cover is also housing recoil spring within it, also cuts made on receivers for both top covers are slightly different, so this mod seems to be aimed at fixed stock FAL/SLR rifles only, keeping the potential top cover incompability between two variants on side at this moment etc.
Some say the SLR/FAL isn’t suitable for conversion to DMR? Is that really true? The Irish use it as a DMR now I don’t think they’d have converted them if they weren’t good enough.
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Some say the SLR/FAL isn’t suitable for conversion to DMR? Is that really true? The Irish use it as a DMR now I don’t think they’d have converted them if they weren’t good enough.
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True due to some reasos,
one is its tilting bolt locking system on it, due to that the rear side of the bolt locks to the receiver instead front side (usually locking lugs on the bolt face itself, like an AK or AR) and all this arrangement is kinda prone to vibrations as locking is kinda loose - this kind of arrangement affects accuracy
also, recoil spring arrangement is also not in-line to the barrel but at angle, and also housed inside the buttstock so you got this angled buttstock on it,
then of course it fires a really heavy recoiling round that 7.62 NATO//.308 is under such construction, go figure,
finally,the whole construction is made with loose tolerances for perceived reliability factor (however the actual results were kinda different, britshits had to adopt to those "sand cuts' on bolt carrier to accomodate outside sand-dust-shit particles etc and what not) so again gotta cause vibrations and affecting accuracy and what not,

if you want some simpler explanation then consider this,
FAL is say, short-stroke gas piston version of Sturmgewehr-44 in larger calibre,

^^BUT majority of these disadvantages are suppressed due to the factor that it fires a full powered rifle bullet that stabilises quite well on a longer rifled barrel and has effective range of at least 800 metres, so despite these perceived disadvantages we can still work around a bit for acceptable performance in terms of accuracy if rifles are say, well made for tighter tolerances (i.e. no much loose gaps or parts inside), with accurised barrel and used with good kwality ammo then perhaps yes it can very well be used as a DMR rifle, and that is what the Irish did,
their DMR FALs aren't just FAL with rails but had gone through a proper upgrade-conversion program etc to make it more accurate etc...same could have been done here...but nowadays we got those SIG716 G2 and SIG716i etc etc so who would bother much with OFB made SLRs and what not...
 

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xin chào @VivaVietnamm ! i just noticed we've got a friend from Vietnam on this forum, saw those beautiful pics shared by you on other thread.

I'd like to request you for some good pics on Vietnamese made small arms by Z111 factory, since quite few good quality pics are available on internet, mostly of those AK or Galil pattern firearms but i wish to see more from Z111 factory, so if possible please do share some pics on vietnamese made firearms here,
thank you
 

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xin chào @VivaVietnamm ! i just noticed we've got a friend from Vietnam on this forum, saw those beautiful pics shared by you on other thread.

I'd like to request you for some good pics on Vietnamese made small arms by Z111 factory, since quite few good quality pics are available on internet, mostly of those AK or Galil pattern firearms but i wish to see more from Z111 factory, so if possible please do share some pics on vietnamese made firearms here,
thank you
Yes, let me post some, bro :)
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1.The AK-103 assault rifle was manufactured by Vietnam in 2013, before the Israeli Galil Ace assault rifle production line was put into operation. Maybe this is the original plan to modernize our soldiers' personal weapons, replacing the old AKs. Photo: Close-up of Vietnam-made AK-103 gun.
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Basically, the Vietnamese-made AK-103 version is quite similar to the AK-103 manufactured by Russian Kalashnikov. The gun uses 7.62x39mm ammunition and the same magazine as AK-47 / AKM, the armrest, grip and handle are made of high-strength synthetic plastic to reduce the weight of the gun significantly. Photo: A close-up of the body of the AK-103 gun with a 40mm grenade launcher made in Vietnam.
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The breech cover has the same raised edges as the AKM's breech cap, the gun adds an AK-74-style recoil compensator and a universal mount on the left side of the gun body for attaching optical sights school, night vision goggles, red dot sighting, etc. The armrests are delicately crafted with raised edges so that the gunner can firmly grip the gun during shooting, and there are Picatinny rails underneath to enable shooting. mount a clip-on grenade launcher, auxiliary handle or fork.

Photo: Vietnam-made AK-103 gun (above) and Galil Ace 32 (below)


Súng bắn tỉa hạng nặng “Made in Vietnam” lần đầu xuất ngoại khiến cả Đông Nam Á ngỡ ngàng - Ảnh 1.
The event that Vietnam's weapons attended for the first time a large-scale defense exhibition in the region such as Indo Defense 2018 in Jakarta, Indonesia marked a breakthrough new step for Vietnam's Defense Industry (CNQP). , confident enough to step into the world market.
Súng bắn tỉa hạng nặng “Made in Vietnam” lần đầu xuất ngoại khiến cả Đông Nam Á ngỡ ngàng - Ảnh 2.
Many new-generation infantry guns have been introduced by Vietnam's CNQP, in which the "Made in Vietnam" SBT12 M1 sniper rifle has won special attention and received high appreciation from weapons experts. international.
Súng bắn tỉa hạng nặng “Made in Vietnam” lần đầu xuất ngoại khiến cả Đông Nam Á ngỡ ngàng - Ảnh 3.
According to the introductory catalog, the SBT12 M1 is the first "Made in Vietnam" sniper rifle model actually designed and manufactured in the country, meeting the tactical requirements in the modern combat environment. The prototype of the SBT12 M1 (in the middle) is on display at the Weapons Institute - General Department of Defense Industry. Photo: QPVN.
Súng bắn tỉa hạng nặng “Made in Vietnam” lần đầu xuất ngoại khiến cả Đông Nam Á ngỡ ngàng - Ảnh 4.
SBT12 M1 is one of two "Made in Vietnam" sniper rifle models manufactured by the Weapons Institute, but it is the earliest completed model, after meeting the technical and tactical requirements proposed by the Ministry of Defense. out, suitable for mass production, put into use units. Photo: QPVN.
Súng bắn tỉa hạng nặng “Made in Vietnam” lần đầu xuất ngoại khiến cả Đông Nam Á ngỡ ngàng - Ảnh 5.
The reason the SBT12 M1 attracted attention at Indo Defense is its special design. This is one of the few rare heavy-duty sniper rifles in Southeast Asia that uses a bullpup design with a magazine on the back of the trigger. Even more special when the SBT12 M1 has a design quite similar to the powerful Russian KSVK sniper rifle.

to be continue tomorrow

 

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Why did Vietnamese Army go for Galil, if local version of AK-103 was available?
How much performance improvement can be acheived by Galil over the AK-103?
 

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Why did Vietnamese Army go for Galil, if local version of AK-103 was available?
How much performance improvement can be acheived by Galil over the AK-103?
Mainly bcs of the price,bro.

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Earlier this month, Russian news agency Intefax revealed that Vietnam will replace Russian Kalashnikov rifles with Israeli Galil ACE guns.
Israel's weapons manufacturer "Israel Weapon Industries" (IWI) has started in Vietnam a factory producing Galil assault rifles model ACE 31 (compact) and ACE 32, products in the future will be Replacement equipment for Kalashnikov rifles.

Earlier, Israel's Globes website also announced that IWI company won a contract worth $ 100 million to build a rifle factory in Vietnam, along with sub-items, this contract is valid. over $170 million.

On February 10, Russia's Kommersant daily reported that the Vietnamese Ministry of Defense refused to sign with Rosoboronexport a contract to manufacture Kalashnikov submachine guns "series 100" (AK-100) because the value was too high. of the proposal from the Russian side.

 

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Many of us have always asked why OFB does not make any promotional videos like Kalashnikov concern like firing and testing guns under extreme conditions. Well this video is probably the closest we can get to see something like that😂
This piece of shit is priced at 99,840

Also note the bullets hitting the ground post mud test.
 

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