Small arms and Light Weapons

[Marliii]

IMO
SMGs
full length rifle doesn't make sense really

JVPC could be good for them

 

[Tactical Doge]

JVPC could be good for them

Exactly my Hermano

 

[FalconSlayers]

Indian Army issues RFI for 93,895 close quarter battle carbines

The Indian Army (IA) has issued a request for information (RFI) to overseas and domestic vendors for the procurement of 93,895 close quarter battle (CBQ) carbines for an...

www.janes.com

Some good info about the RFI

They also need foldable stock?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

JVPC could be good for them

Actually not a bad idea, I completely forgot the JVPC existed, in fact the RPF could be a great test bed for large scale adoption of the gun and ammo based logistics issues wouldn’t as much of a problem for them as it would for other forces who are deployed in conflict areas.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Actually not a bad idea, I completely forgot the JVPC existed, in fact the RPF could be a great test bed for large scale adoption of the gun and ammo based logistics issues wouldn’t as much of a problem for them as it would for other forces who are deployed in conflict areas.

The question is how will slow MoD or MHA do anything?

 

[Marliii]

They also need foldable stock?
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Yup we are really screw ups

 

[Aditya Ballal]

I watching a video on you about the US’s new standard issue Sig P320, that’s when I remembered even we are due for a new standard issue pistol, was wondering if the 5.56x30mm round could be used as a pistol round. Similar to the Belgian FN 5.7x28 and Chinese 5.8x42 rounds.
Idk much about the ballistics of the round, cuz if it’s actually feasible to adopt the Minsas round, it could lead to the adoption of the JVPC, and phase out the 9mm round atleast for the regulars and atleast solve some of the ammo complexity issues in the armed forces.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

The question is how will slow MoD or MHA do anything?

RPF comes under ministry of railways.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Yup we are really screw ups

I have lost all hopes from Indian Army, does the Caracal CAR-816 have foldable stock?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

They also need foldable stock?
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Only compatible options are IWI Carmel, Sig MCX, our OFB carbine, AK pattern carbines ?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

I have lost all hopes from Indian Army, does the Caracal CAR-816 have foldable stock?

Nope

 

[Marliii]

I watching a video on you about the US’s new standard issue Sig P320, that’s when I remembered even we are due for a new standard issue pistol, was wondering if the 5.56x30mm round could be used as a pistol round. Similar to the Belgian FN 5.7x28 and Chinese 5.8x42 rounds.
Idk much about the ballistics of the round, cuz if it’s actually feasible to adopt the Minsas round, it could lead to the adoption of the JVPC, and phase out the 9mm round atleast for the regulars and atleast solve some of the ammo complexity issues in the armed forces.

They cant even replace ww2 carbines so in that regard browning hi power aka iglis aka OFB 9mm is good

 

[Marliii]

Only compatible options are IWI Carmel, Sig MCX, our OFB carbine, AK pattern carbines ?

Cz bren can also be compatible berreta arx160a2,scar16 just joking

 

[Marliii]

I have lost all hopes from Indian Army, does the Caracal CAR-816 have foldable stock?

It doesn't most ar15 aren't

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Anyone has a copy or link of the RFI?

 

[Marliii]

Anyone has a copy or link of the RFI?

Only the janes magazine saying about the rfi no copy or link of rfi

 

[FalconSlayers]

Only compatible options are IWI Carmel, Sig MCX, our OFB carbine, AK pattern carbines ?

SiG MCX will be too damn expensive, but we can’t judge right now, SiG reduced their bid from 1400 dollars per rifle to 990 dollars per rifle for the SiG-716, yes the DI system upgradation reduced costs but still they gave a lower bid and we got the best bang for the buck, if SiG does itagain for MCX then I’m more than happy seeing MCX in Indian Army as a carbine, it’s truly nexgen stuff. Arad is a great gas operated assault rifle as well, highly modular and lightweight, has M-Lok rails snd an 11.5” barrel offering.

CAR-816 is a nice rifle as well, but it still uses the old picattiny rails, has a 10.5” barrel, is heavier but made by a company that is not old enough, it is a new company who just made a rifle with people who designed the SiG-516 and HK-416.

 

[FalconSlayers]

SiG MCX will be too damn expensive, but we can’t judge right now, SiG reduced their bid from 1400 dollars per rifle to 990 dollars per rifle for the SiG-716, yes the DI system upgradation reduced costs but still they gave a lower bid and we got the best bang for the buck, if SiG does itagain for MCX then I’m more than happy seeing MCX in Indian Army as a carbine, it’s truly nexgen stuff. Arad is a great gas operated assault rifle as well, highly modular and lightweight, has M-Lok rails snd an 11.5” barrel offering.

CAR-816 is a nice rifle as well, but it still uses the old picattiny rails, has a 10.5” barrel, is heavier but made by a company that is not old enough, it is a new company who just made a rifle with people who designed the SiG-516 and HK-416.

But SiG MCX can’t fulfill the weight criteria, thecarbine should not be heavier than 3.3kg, MCX is 3.4kg.

 

[Marliii]

Carmel length is more than 806mm army says max length is 800mm.this rfi is more defined than the usual rfi army provide in which no rifle on earth can participate.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Carmel length is more than 806mm army says max length is 800mm.this rfi is more defined than the usual rfi army provide in which no rifle on earth can participate.

SiG MCX is 3.4kg heavier than the required no more than 3.3 kg, only Arad fulfils the RFI, it just weighs 2.85kg despite being a gas operated rifle, wow.