Small arms and Light Weapons

[Marliii]

If pakis had half a brain, they would weld picatinny rails on G3 and modernise them with new furniture. Cheaper than what we are spending on our procurement and they already have the tooling. They also have the advantage of their ordnance factories being under direct control of fauj.

They don't have money for anything it seems. In peedf they were dreaming about hk417 and scar h so they may use g3 in this condition up to 30s

 

[Tactical Doge]

They don't have money for anything it seems. In peedf they were dreaming about hk417 and scar h so they may use g3 in this condition up to 30s

HK is more inclined towards porkis than us
Fuktards should just give a contract modernise the G3s to HK, instead of having wet dreams about HK417

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Let's get one thing clear again for those who follow this thread religiously, and let's go through from start, one more time.
I will not be discussing sidearms, LMG, Snipers, DMRs, etc

Indian Army -
* Standard issue assault rifle for basic infantry/Reserve( not territorial army) - I have come to the conclusion that anything/everything that replaces shitty insas as our standard issue assault rifle, I am up for it. Given the fact that the rifle is given room for future upgrades. Best choice as we speak is AK-203/15/19.

*Carbines for basic infantry/military police/armoured corps/artilery/engineers/army air defence/aviation corps, etc - I know for a fact that 70,000 carbines will never be sufficient for our needs, but if we get complete ToT we will produce it in our country. Prefered Carbines for our needs are CAR 816, Sig 516, IWI arad, any other foreign vendor giving ToT

* Frontline Troops - Already procured 140,000 Sig 716, but can not cover all troops since there are more than 140,000 troops, hence we need indigenous battle rifle/patrol rifle to replace insas and old AKs

These are the three main infantry categories we have in IA, and I have not covered special forces and shock troops such as Ghataks since these need special procuments and can't be mixed with ordinary infantry troops.
Another questions I have seen people here ask, what will happen to discarded insas and old AKs, well I think it will be in storage/mothballed. In my opinion old AKs should still be used by certain forces like Rashtriya Rifles who got used to using these rifles, if not better give to 3rd players such as state police forces, state forest reserves, village defence forces, etc. But insas should be fully discarded all together.

 

[Tactical Doge]

,L I have not covered special forces and shock troops such as Ghataks since these need special procuments and can't be mixed with ordinary infantry troops.

Ghataks have special procurement route????

 

[Marliii]

Ghataks have special procurement route????

I mostly think paras should just go with the procured carbines instead of going for SCARS.ghataks too need a quick low weight AR and the new carbine should be efficient

 

[Tactical Doge]

I mostly think paras should just go with the procured carbines instead of going for SCARS.ghataks too need a quick low weight AR and the new carbine should be efficient

Paras use whatever they get hands on
Like recent one where we had 6 para rolling with SIGs
SCARs have mixed reviews, but most respected YouTubers give a pretty dichotomous Review of the SCAR
AFAIK Ghataks don't have seperate procurement route I may be wrong

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Ghataks have special procurement route????

I really hope so!! If para sf modernized their inventory by replacing Tavors with AR-15/18 rifles then these Tavors can be given to Ghataks. Parallel independent procurements also should be revised

 

[Tactical Doge]

I really hope so!! If para sf modernized their inventory by replacing Tavors with AR-15/18 rifles then these Tavors can be given to Ghataks. Parallel independent procurements also should be revised

Turns out I was wrong
Ghataks do have special procurements done
For instance the B&T MP9 were procured specifically for CQ for the ghatak platoons
They also bought some door breaching kit for Ghataks

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Turns out I was wrong
Ghataks do have special procurements done
For instance the B&T MP9 were procured specifically for CQ for the ghatak platoons
They also bought some door breaching kit for Ghataks

SMGs are probably the only category in IA that's 80% modernized.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

AK74 from palmetto state armoury, imagine a rifle like this as our standard issued one!!

 

[Tactical Doge]

SMGs are probably the only category in IA that's 80% modernized.

Only the MP9 is new, UZI is still 80s era platform, I believe IWI has a kit which can convert an Old Uzi to Uzi pro standards

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Only the MP9 is new, UZI is still 80s era platform, I believe IWI has a kit which can convert an Old Uzi to Uzi pro standards

X95, Micro UZI, MP5, Sig MPX ( rare). These are the SMG arsenal in IA. Is old UZI still in use? I think they discarded it

 

[Tactical Doge]

AK74 from palmetto state armoury, imagine a rifle like this as our standard issued one!!
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It's version chambered in 7.62 is pretty much identical to the original 203 not the watered down version, that muzzle device is freaky btw ()
Also, can you gimme some links to read on the issue with the top cover with AKs the Zeroing issue and whatnot, the dovetails and stuff

 

[Marliii]

 

[Tactical Doge]

X95, Micro UZI, MP5, Sig MPX ( rare). These are the SMG arsenal in IA. Is old UZI still in use? I think they discarded it

Yes Micro Uzi is still old, the original Uzi is designed in the 50s
Also
Sig mpx with IA?

 

[Vishalreddy3]

It's version chambered in 7.62 is pretty much identical to the original 203 not the watered down version, that muzzle device is freaky btw ()
Also, can you gimme some links to read on the issue with the top cover with AKs the Zeroing issue and whatnot, the dovetails and stuff

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[Vishalreddy3]

Yes Micro Uzi is still old, the original Uzi is designed in the 50s
Also
Sig mpx with IA?

MPX is very rare, but some units use it I guess

 

[Tactical Doge]

MPX is very rare, but some units use it I guess

AFAIK
MPX procurement comes under MHA not MoD

 

[FalconSlayers]

G3 was in service for porks in 60s I believe at a time we were using bolt action LOL

We were using the FALs, IA and PA were using legendary rifles at that times. Pakistani G3 has seen IA using FALs, INSAS and now SiG716 lol.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Just modernize the SLR 1C using Para FAL type arrangement and pictatinny rail, M-LOK handguard and a muzzle device.
Good enough for rest of the Infantry.