Small arms and Light Weapons

When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?

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shuvo@y2k10

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To handle recoil and carry that weight of mags and rifle isn't fun.

Since you are already aware 7.62 AK round ain't going anywhere so no need to have a 7.62 NATO for all.
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That is for the Army to decide whether they want 7.62*51 or 7.62*39mm. They decided in 2016-17 that Insas replacement should be 7.62*51mm rifle from abroad.

Then in 2018-19 under Army Cheif Bipin Rawat, the deal was bifurcated into expensive import of 7.62 NATO rifle from abroad and cheaper AK from JV. Now JV is in limbo as Russian are quoting excessive price for royalty. In the meanwhile already 1.44 L Sigs are purchased through emergency.

So we should go back to 2016-17 plan for 7.62NATO rifle as replacement of Insas.

Also, the existing AK stockpile of Eastern European AKs with FAB accesories are enough to take care of Rashtriya Rifles and Assam rifles.
 
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shuvo@y2k10 said:
Carbine is a separate deal in 5.56 mm chamber.

There are 3 categories of soldiers:

(A) Frontline Infantry soldiers
(B)Non-Frontline Infantry soldiers
(C) Mechanized Infantry soldiers
(D) Soldiers belongs to Arty, AAC, Armoured corps, signals etc.

Original plan mooted in 2016-17 was to replace the Insas 5.56 in (A-C) with 7.62*51 mm in. Then in 2018-19, it was decied that (A) should get Sig's (as per emergency procurement) and (B,C) should get 7.62*39 mm AK-203 (JV between OFB and Russia) to reduce cost. The deal had political undertones to it. However, the cost quoted by Russian is greater than Sig's, hence the 2018-19 plan to buy a cheaper rifles falls flat on its face.

The carbine deal was always for (D) for more than a decade, and even now it stands. Nno change in that plan. It will replace existing 9mm Sterlings.

Also, 6.8 or 6.5 mm may be a good round, but IA won't adopt it in the foreseeable future. So no point in discussing that. The existing IA inventory of 5.56*45, 7.62*39, 7.62*51 and 9*19 mm will remain same for the next two decades at least.
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So much for "modernization", what a waste of time and money. What's even more annoying is the fact that we're trying to out-modernize a military spending 250 billion dollars minimum and one that has a far more efficient procurement program being done almost entirely domestic. You don't see the Chinese running 5 different calibers and a gazillion small-arms and variants within the infantry.
 
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FalconSlayers said:
Uncle Sam is someone I 100% agree will betray us someday, but never expected this from Russians. We all are aware USA is temporary friend of anyone but we expected long term relations with Russia, wonder if we switch to Western then their market would lose, so they should focus on building quality maal and consider India as a friend not a customer.
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what's happening with russia?
 
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