Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

[mayfair]

Just 45000 British soldiers were enough to control undivided India; and think how many Indians they killed every year.

...and they were supplemented by 2 to 3 million strong British Indian army, the sword arm of the British empire, who not only kept fighting for the empire in faraway lands but also helped in putting down any internal disturbances.

INA, RIN mutiny and the looming spectacle of the British Indian army turning on their masters was a principal reason in Brits turning tail in 1947.

 

[Enquirer]

...and they were supplemented by 2 to 3 million strong British Indian army, the sword arm of the British empire, who not only kept fighting for the empire in faraway lands but also helped in putting down any internal disturbances.

INA, RIN mutiny and the looming spectacle of the British Indian army turning on their masters was a principal reason in Brits turning tail in 1947.

It would quaint for the Indians to continue to sacrifice their lives for the British all through WWII, with a secret desire to turn on their masters after they have won the war for their masters

INA was largely dependent on Japan...which collapsed catastrophically in 1945!

All these wild speculations that British were nurturing illogical fears about Indian army, when they had just accomplished the impossible - defeating the Nazis (who were so close to annihilating Britain).

The more logical explanation is that the Britishers had wrung India dry of every resource. Post WWII they might have looked at India and other colonies as a liability. They needed to tend to their own rebuilding effort, curing Indian famine etc wasn't probably their priority!

 

[Rudy123]

BJP needs to find and train a true successor to Modi. Someone whose integrity is beyond question, and an equally charismatic speaker, and who should have done a great deal of social work that bore fruit. Sorry, but i dont think Yogi Adithyanath completely fits the bill. But Tejasvi Surya seems very promising. He has time to grow. Hes extremely intelligent, and frank when speaking. Plus, him being a southie will help greatly in making inroads in TN. BJP has to think long term.

People are watching my friend they are not fool. Suddenly ram mandir got postponed till 2020. Balakot revenge declared done, I bet you if this year there are terrorist attack it will not be avenged like anantnag shrugged under carpet. Kasmir articles forgotten. Election over issues are over. They are under cooling period.

But people are not fool they are watching but sadly we don't have any option. Maybe modi have matured salahkar around him now compared to 2002.. But we do need a strong, right-winger, famous and sensible faction within BJP(not like Yogi). People will not vote any other national party in coming years but they should have some famous faction within BJP to keep modi in check.
And that should be our bhavi prime minister not to pick anyone from shakha and impose on us.

 

[ezsasa]

The more logical explanation is that the Britishers had wrung India dry of every resource. Post WWII they might have looked at India and other colonies as a liability. They needed to tend to their own rebuilding effort, curing Indian famine etc wasn't probably their priority!

Yes, indian exports started declining since 1929. WW2 was an unexpected event for the British.

 

[garg_bharat]

Relax. Considering Modi was 63 years of age at the time he became pm, mms and atal ki both were above 70, I would say that Tejaswi has another 30 years ahead of him before being considered as a pm candidate. He is just 27-28.
The ideal replacement of pm modi in 2024 or even in 2029 is Amit Shah or yogi adityanath.

I think this discussion is too early.

Leaders are created by circumstance. Not easy to predict.

Current number 2 is Rajnath Singh.

 

[mayfair]

It would quaint for the Indians to continue to sacrifice their lives for the British all through WWII, with a secret desire to turn on their masters after they have won the war for their masters

INA was largely dependent on Japan...which collapsed catastrophically in 1945!

All these wild speculations that British were nurturing illogical fears about Indian army, when they had just accomplished the impossible - defeating the Nazis (who were so close to annihilating Britain).

Do read up on the Royal Indian navy mutiny.

Secondly, Brits on their own did not defeat Nazi Germany. A large chunk of credit goes to The Soviets, who despite horrendous losses decisively rolled over Germans from the Eastern front and also the Amreekis. Not to mention our own soldiers who sacrificed themselves for pointless British battles in North Africa, Europe, Burma and the South East.

British fears about the Indian army are not illogical, there are enough documents on communications between the colonial offices to suggest that this fear was very much there.

Also the Roosevelt pressure to give up their colonies in exchange for economic and other assistance post-war was a big factor.

 

[Enquirer]

British fears about the Indian army are not illogical, there are enough documents on communications between the colonial offices to suggest that this fear was very much there.

Also the Roosevelt pressure to give up their colonies in exchange for economic and other assistance post-war was a big factor.

The last one is a legitimate factor........more so from the absurdity that British appeared to be stranded in....liberating the oppressed from Nazis while themselves being oppressors outside Europe.

 

[Holy Triad]

Breaking news,

J&K terror funding case:
NIA nails top kashmiri separatist leaders(including yasin malik) | EXCLUSIVE

The matter pertains to 2017 where a case was filed against terrorists belonging to Jammat ud Dawah, Duktaran-e-Millat, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen and other separatist leaders in the State of J&K for raising, receiving and collecting funds for funding separatist and terrorist activities in J&K.

With top separatists in the net in Jammu and Kashmir terror funding case of 2017, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) claims to have clinching proof against four of the big leaders.

This is after the anti terror probe agency arrested Yasin Malik, leader of JKLF, Asiya Andrabi, Duktaran-e-Milat, Separatist leader Shabir Shah of JKDFP and Masrat Alam of Muslim League. All the four accused were taken into police custody for custodial interrogation few weeks ago.


The matter pertains to 2017 where a case was filed against terrorists belonging to Jammat ud Dawah, Duktaran-e-Millat, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen and other separatist leaders in the State of J&K for raising, receiving and collecting funds for funding separatist and terrorist activities in Jammu & Kashmir and entering into a larger conspiracy for causing disruption in Kashmir valley and for waging war against India.

But it is only two years after the FIR, the crackdown against separatists happened in what is being seen as a "hard approach" of Modi government.

As per NIA sources, Yasin Malik admitted that he was instrumental in bringing together the disparate factions of Hurriyat conference and formed the Joint Resistance Leadership (JRL), which spear headed the violent agitations in 2016 in Kashmir Valley, by issuing "Protest Calendars" leading to economic shut down for over four months.

It also caused death and injuries to civilians and security forces during the violent protests.

Yasin Malik admitted that the JRL and Hurriyat Conference Gilani Group collected funds from business community as well as certain other sources and ensured that economic shut down and violent protests continue to disrupt the daily life of common citizens in the valley.

Meanwhile, female separartist leader Asiya Andrabi revealed to NIA that she had been collecting funds and donations from foreign sources and Duktaran-e-Milat had been organising protests by muslim women in the valley.

Asiya Andrabi was confronted with evidence regarding funding of educational expenses of her son in Malaysia from 2011 onwards through foreign remittances made by Zahoor Watali.

Zahoor is one of the main accused in terror funding case and an influential businessman of the valley.

India today has learnt that NIA has already approached the concerned authorities for providing evidence relating to certain bank accounts used by Mohammad bin Qasim (son of Asiya Andrabi) while he was studying in the university.

During the custodial interrogation, Shabir Shah was confronted with evidence relating to transfer of money by Pakistan based agents and representatives of APHC factions to parties affiliated to Hurriyat in J & K.

He was also confronted about his investments in various hotels and businesses in Pehalgam, properties in Jammu, Srinagar and Anantnag. Evidence regarding many of his benami properties is being collected.

He was confronted with some of his personal staff and associates who have provided vital information regarding the sources fund raising and investment details. Investigation into these aspects is underway.

But the latest arrest of Masarat Alam is being termed as big as NIA investigators believe that he is the so called poster boy of stone pelters and violent agitations in Kashmir valley.

He has revealed that Pakistan based agents route the funds through hawala operators which were transferred to the separatist leaders including Syed Shah Gilani Chairman APHC (G).

Masarat Alam also revealed that there are rifts in the Hurriyat conference regarding collection and use of funds.

Investigation revealed that Zahoor Ahamad Shah Watali is one of the main hawala conduit, who used to generate and receive funds from Pakistan, ISI, UAE, and had floated various shell companies to disguise foreign remittances for further transfer to separatist leaders and stone pelters in the valley.

These funds were used to fuel unrest in the Kashmir valley and organise violent agitations and anti-India activities, which resulted in large scale violence, leading to numerous injuries and deaths of civilians and security forces.

NIA for its investigation carried out nationwide searches at various locations across the States of J&K, Delhi and Haryana.

Crucial electronic and documentary evidences were recovered which point towards the pattern of raising, collection, transfer and use of funds for terrorist and separatist activities.

Significant evidence relating to funding of these separatist elements through Pakistan and UAE based businessman, ISI, High Commission of Pakistan in Delhi has been collected and presented to the NIA Special Court in the chargesheets.

NIA concluded that mastermind and kingpin of the crime Zahoor Watali had approached the trial court for grant of bail which was rejected by the NIA Special Court.

He approached the Delhi High Court, challenging the order and High Court granted him bail on September 13, 2018.

NIA filed an SLP in the Hon'ble Supreme Court challenging his bail order and the Division bench of Hon'ble Supreme Court cancelled the bail of Zahoor Watali.

Accepting the plea of NIA, Hon'ble Supreme Court observed that the High Court has not appreciated the material which found favour with the designated court to record its opinion that there are reasonable grounds for believing that the accusations are prima facie true.

It also noticed that the High court ought to have taken into account the totality of the materials/ evidences which depicted the involvement of the respondent in the commission of the stated offences, besides the offence under section 17 for raising funds for terrorist activities.

NIA has charge sheeted 13 accused including Hafiz Mohammad Saeed (leader of Jammat ud Dawah), Syed Salahuddin (head of proscribed organisation Hizb-ul-Mujahideen),7 separatist leaders, 2 hawala conduits and some stone pelters.

In what is being seen as a continued policy of zero tolerance to terror, the Modi 2.0 government will come down hard on anti India activity.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...aratists-leaders-exclusive-1549581-2019-06-15

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Once again,porklandians and their kashmiri patsies caught pants down...

One more reason to turn down "piece" process...

One more reason to bomb the GHQ...

NOW, Ball is in the Big's court...

HUGE have to happen...
to send a message,that Bharat has woken up...

Right time to act...act now....

Start with the 370 and 35a

Bharat mata ki jai

 

[prasadr14]

BJP needs to find and train a true successor to Modi. Someone whose integrity is beyond question, and an equally charismatic speaker, and who should have done a great deal of social work that bore fruit. Sorry, but i dont think Yogi Adithyanath completely fits the bill. But Tejasvi Surya seems very promising. He has time to grow. Hes extremely intelligent, and frank when speaking. Plus, him being a southie will help greatly in making inroads in TN. BJP has to think long term.

can groom leaders but can't force leadership.

In a set up like BJP, the next Modi will come up as Modi himself did.

 

[Arihant]

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...order-5782686/lite/?__twitter_impression=true

India and Myanmar forces coordinate to destroy NE insurgent camps across border.

 

[aditya g]

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[indian_blues]

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[Mikesingh]

Pakistan Fails To Fulfil 25 Of 27 FATF Points, Downgrading By IMF, World Bank To Continue

Pakistan has failed to complete 25 of the 27 action points given by the international terror financing watchdog FATF to check funding to terrorist groups such as LeT and JeM and frontal groups like Jamat-ud-Dawah and Falah-e-Insaniat Foundation.

With this, multilateral lenders like the IMF, the World Bank and the EU may continue downgrading Pakistan, making its financial situation more precarious.

https://www.republicworld.com/world...nts-downgrading-by-imf-world-bank-to-continue

These buggers are going to be downgraded and put into the Black List in October, which will be curtains for Pak.

 

[Suryavanshi]

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They have cut some parts where the rocket takes off so as to conceal the missile structures.
Impressive regardless.

See this our shaurya missile.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Pakistan Fails To Fulfil 25 Of 27 FATF Points, Downgrading By IMF, World Bank To Continue

Pakistan has failed to complete 25 of the 27 action points given by the international terror financing watchdog FATF to check funding to terrorist groups such as LeT and JeM and frontal groups like Jamat-ud-Dawah and Falah-e-Insaniat Foundation.

With this, multilateral lenders like the IMF, the World Bank and the EU may continue downgrading Pakistan, making its financial situation more precarious.

https://www.republicworld.com/world...nts-downgrading-by-imf-world-bank-to-continue

These buggers are going to be downgraded and put into the Black List in October, which will be curtains for Pak.

They are forever gonna stay in grey list.
FATF hasn't blocked any major country yet.
So far Afganistan, Iran, Syria, Yemen, north korea are the only ones.
All these organisations are only gonna wave their sticks they dont have the capabilty to actual hit em

 

[hit&run]

They are forever gonna stay in grey list.
FATF hasn't blocked any major country yet.
So far Afganistan, Iran, Syria, Yemen, north korea are the only ones.
All these organisations are only gonna wave their sticks they dont have the capabilty to actual hit em

In the last 2 years, Pakistan has got around 19 billion dollars from different sources. Someone is helping them stay afloat.

Indian thinkers must sit down and analyse this phenomenon and find a counter.

 

[ezsasa]

In the last 2 years, Pakistan has got around 19 billion dollars from different sources. Someone is helping them stay afloat.

Indian thinkers must sit down and analyse this phenomenon and find a counter.

China..............................

 

[sorcerer]

Pakistani army opened unprovoked fire at Indian posts at Upper Bandi Chechian, Qasba, Kirni and Mandhar. The soldiers manning the fence responded strongly.

 

[sorcerer]

some paki posters..a.k.a stooges from ISPR was singing about Nagaland and the militancy in the eastern states of India.
Operation sunshine part 2 kicked them bad...
looks like paki investment in the east is also failing..

 

[lcafanboy]

Pakistani batting collapsed. Pakistanis celebrating FATHER'S DAY......:biggrin2: