Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

[Vijyes]

Democracy is India's Dharma and Rajadharma ..........

And who the hell ever told you that Democracy is not one of the ways to destroy and win over Rakshasa ...

Let there be democracy in Pakistan ... it will kill terrorism - is a belief many keep close to their heart.
Democracy will kill Momota, Naxalites, Communists, Oasis and Kerala rakshas ... so is the belief.
Democracy killed communism in Soviet Union, Democracy prevented Communists capturing Europe.
Democracy will destroy communists in China..

let there be democracy in J&K - it will kill terrorism - that is the underlying belief of thousands who lay their lives at the alter of Indian Democracy as enshrined in constitution of India....

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Yes, first of all is the happiness of the subjects.....

Welfare of the subjects even if they happen to be Rakshasas is the first duty of the king....

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Yeah, we see how democracy is working in Iran, Egypt etc. Who said Pakistan is not a democracy? Pakistani people prefer military rule as their mindset makes them prefer violent path. It is still their own democratic choice which they themselves prefer.

Also, where is it said that Rakshasas' happiness matters? Rakshasas can't be considered praja. Only those who follow dharma can be considered as Praja. Otherwise they have to be punished for being "enemy spy" or for "doing adharma".

Shanti Parva is the largest Parva of Mahabharata. It is the soul of Mahabharata as the sole aim of Mahabharata was to establish peace as per Dharma.

Without Shanti Parva Mahabharata is meaningless..........

This means killing those who do adharma. Peace doesn't mean non violence. Peace means stability and lack of hostility. That is why we have concepts like "cold war".

Providing safety and Security rather than killing is the fundamental duty of State.......

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Who said this? Killing rakshasas is the priority and the very reason why state exist. Why do you think states had army? Ramayana, Mahabharata time also had states with soldiers and army. Why do you think army existed in states if there was no killing to do? Isn't it wasteful to keep people engaged in activity which is unnecessary?

 

[patriots]

Bdw our upgraded mirage 2000 faced jf17s somewhere after feb 27.......
@tomato @tigerhill

 

[aarav]

You know what I think, ISI got some dirt on Mahathir's advisor. Maybe that's why Malaysia is leaning towards Pak. Or, the old guy lost his senses in his old age.

There is a Gay sex scandal tape in which his coalition and ministers are embroiled in ,these homosexuals portray themselves as pious men

 

[patriots]

Also people are saying we hv jammed their H4 bombs..,.........................

 

[tomato]

What you r talking bro? throw us whatever u'hv got on this

Bdw our upgraded mirage 2000 faced jf17s somewhere after feb 27.......
@tomato @tigerhill

Also people are saying we hv jammed their H4 bombs..,.........................

 

[Sanglamorre]

Yeah, we see how democracy is working in Iran, Egypt etc. Who said Pakistan is not a democracy? Pakistani people prefer military rule as their mindset makes them prefer violent path. It is still their own democratic choice which they themselves prefer.

Also, where is it said that Rakshasas' happiness matters? Rakshasas can't be considered praja. Only those who follow dharma can be considered as Praja. Otherwise they have to be punished for being "enemy spy" or for "doing adharma".


This means killing those who do adharma. Peace doesn't mean non violence. Peace means stability and lack of hostility. That is why we have concepts like "cold war".


Who said this? Killing rakshasas is the priority and the very reason why state exist. Why do you think states had army? Ramayana, Mahabharata time also had states with soldiers and army. Why do you think army existed in states if there was no killing to do? Isn't it wasteful to keep people engaged in activity which is unnecessary?

That's why there were no standing army till modern age. The armies were basically serfs armed with farm implements.

 

[Vijyes]

That's why there were no standing army till modern age. The armies were basically serfs armed with farm implements.

No, there was standing army. That is why there was a Varna called Kshatriyas. Even as early as 2300BC, Megasthenes had written about Chandragupta Maurya where Chandragupta had an infantry of 6 lakh men in addition to 10000 elephants and 30000 chariots. This was the largest army in any country at that time.

 

[patriots]

Where? when? provide timeline and events summary.
Even if it's hearsay ,I would like to know.

vstol Jockey guy is saying this
Also some other member.......in that forum

PAF had every intention to hit our Brigade HQ, Our weapons dump and take out couple of SU-30MKIs. Please look at the force mix and the fact that three F-16s did intrude to hit this weapon dump. If the intention was not to hit any target, than why intrude inside India? They got scared by sudden appearance of Mig-21s at the scene which they could very very late due to the shape and geography of Kashmir bowl. All these Mig-21s were vectored in from Srinagar, Awantipore and Udhampur.
The direction in which the three F-16s turned, placed them at a flight path which was nearly 90* to the wolfpack comprising eight F-16s and four JF-17s. The JF-17s were placed to the north. The aim was to force SU-30MKIs to chase these F-16s. The flight path of these F-16s would have exposed these SU-30MKIs to the waiting F-16s which would have got a very clear shot at them without the fear of shooting down one of their own.

 

[patriots]

M2Ks were to the south of pir panjal and not North of it. S-30MKIs were to the North. JF-17s never faced M2Ks on 27th feb. They faced them later


Fighters positions ....on feb 27
According to vistol jockey

 

[IndiaRising]

so when is 27 February being avenged? this is getting comical now. intrusion of our airspace hasn't been responded to at all.

 

[patriots]

so when is 27 February being avenged? this is getting comical now. intrusion of our airspace hasn't been responded to at all.

Bhai
In tarbela something happened said baba

@tigerhill says we destroyed 3f16 on tarmac
............................and some other guys also saying we destroyed f16s...............
Though officially we hv not avenged

 

[ezsasa]

Bhai
In tarbela something happened said baba

@tigerhill says we destroyed 3f16 on tarmac
............................and some other guys also saying we destroyed f16s...............
Though officially we hv not avenged

Unless such info has been made official, it does not matter....

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Let there be democracy in Pakistan ... it will kill terrorism - is a belief many keep close to their heart.

Under an appropriate liberal democracy, Pakistan will cease to exist and reunite with India in long term.

Two nation theory has failed and the Pakistan what Jinnah founded has collapsed in 1971. Current one in our neighborhood is leftover of that crisis state. They need crises and propaganda to exist.

 

[Vijyes]

Under an appropriate liberal democracy, Pakistan will cease to exist and reunite with India in long term.

Two nation theory has failed and the Pakistan what Jinnah founded has collapsed in 1971. Current one in our neighborhood is leftover of that crisis state. They need crises and propaganda to exist.

What is wrong with you? Liberal democracy? What is this new concept? It is either democracy or not. Adding new things like muslim democracy, christian democracy, liberal democracy ,communist democracy is absurd. Pakistan is an Islamic country and the separation was to maintain islamic rule over Muslims. I don't see how it has failed.

Separation of Bangladesh was always obvious as no country can survive such long distance relationship between half of the parts. The idea of 2 nation was that Hindus and Muslims are 2 separate civilisation in themselves and can't coexist. That holds true even now. But that doesn't mean all Muslims must live under same king/ruler. Muslims are people of Islam and states are only a means of convenience to rule people but still subservient to Allah and his prophet regardless of regional boundaries. Even after separation of Bangladesh, Bangladesh is still an Islamic country and hence still subservient to Allah.

The only failure in 2 nation theory is that hindus did not get a nation.

 

[Mikesingh]

so when is 27 February being avenged? this is getting comical now. intrusion of our airspace hasn't been responded to at all.

The Paki fighters did not cross the IB/LoC and the reason why we did not engage in combat with them. The IAF followed the ROE. Though why the fuk they followed it beats me!

 

[Bhadra]

That's why there were no standing army till modern age. The armies were basically serfs armed with farm implements.

Sir, there is no harm in reading some sociology text on origin of society and the state. Things will become much clearer...

Soldiering is amongst the two oldest professions in the world ..the other one being........(guess what?)

By the way almost 90 percent of cities and towns in India sprung up around soldiers. You name it and I will attempt to tell you Regimental story of the city / town. It is another thing that when the city fully develops, Defence Forces are thrown out from their houses to develop further and house people like you. The latest example is Thakur asking Rajnath Singh to shift Army out of Simla as if soldiers are not citizens of the country.

 

[Gandaberunda]

If this is true then opportunity missed ?
After detecting this hidden paki submarine should have sunk by IN to avenge targeting of our military installations...
Why let go after hunting for 21 days to just locate ?? We could have sent a strong message and scared the shit out of pakis to dare think of targeting our defence forces

 

[Prashant12]

If this is true then opportunity missed ?
After detecting this hidden paki submarine should have sunk by IN to avenge targeting of our military installations...
Why let go after hunting for 21 days to just locate ?? We could have sent a strong message and scared the shit out of pakis to dare think of targeting our defence forces

NEW DELHI: Soon after the Pulwama terror attack, India pulled out its Navy from an exercise and deployed a major part of its fleet, including nuclear and conventional submarines, close to Pakistani territorial waters.

During the aggressive deployment of the naval assets by the Indian side, the Pakistanis were getting an impression that New Delhi might use its maritime force to avenge the killing of its 40 CRPF personnel in the suicide bombing by Jaish-e-Muhammed (JeM).

India was continuously keeping an eye on the movement of the Pakistani military but after Indian Air Force hit the Jaish terrorist facility in Balakot, one of the most advanced Pakistani Agosta-class submarines - PNS Saad - vanished from the Pakistani waters, a senior government source said.

Having accounted for all other surface warships and all the submarines, the vanishing act done by the PNS Saad fitted with Air Independent Propulsion (a technology which allows the submarines to stay for a longer period under the water than normal submarines) swung the entire Indian Navy into action.
"The location near Karachi from where the PNS Saad vanished, it could reach the Gujarat coast in three days and the headquarters of the western fleet in Mumbai within five days and was seen as a major threat to the security of the country," the sources said.

The anti-submarine warfare specialist warships and aircraft were positioned to help in the hunt for the missing Pakistani submarine.

"All the areas where it could have gone in the given timeframe, extensive searches were carried out by the Indian Navy. P-8Is were pressed into service to locate the submarine along with the coastal areas of Gujarat followed by Maharashtra and other states," the sources said.

All precautionary measures had been taken by the Navy to ensure that even if the PNS Saad had entered Indian waters, all necessary actions were to be taken to force it to come on the surface, and if required take military punitive action against it, the sources said.

Nuclear submarine INS Chakra had also been deployed in an aggressive posture along the Pakistani waters and instructed to keep looking for the missing Pakistani submarine. The Indian Navy's latest induction, Scorpene-class submarine INS Kalvari, was also deployed in the hunt while their posture kept threatening Pakistan against doing any misadventure in the Indian waters.

As the days progressed, the Indian Navy kept expanding its area of search for the Pakistani boat and satellites were also used to locate it, meanwhile, the force was almost certain that the Pakistanis may have kept it hidden somewhere else.

After 21 days of extensive search, the Indian Navy finally located the PNS Saad on the western side of Pakistan. It was sent there for hiding to ensure a covert capability in case of extension in hostilities in the aftermath of the Balakot airstrikes.

Sources said the Navy is maintaining complete surveillance of the Arabian Sea, especially Pakistani waters, and is aware of Pakistan's naval activities in the area.


Soon after the tensions spiked, the Navy had deployed over 60 warships, including the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, along with its battle group as part of a rapid redeployment in the North Arabian Sea.
"The overwhelming superiority of Indian Navy in all three dimensions forced the Pakistan Navy to remain deployed close to the Makran coast and not venture out in the open ocean," a statement by Indian Navy spokesperson Captain DK Sharma had said at that time.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ubmarine-for-21-days/articleshow/69913418.cms

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

The Paki fighters did not cross the IB/LoC and the reason why we did not engage in combat with them. The IAF followed the ROE. Though why the fuk they followed it beats me!

PAF entered through Nowshera and poonch sector. This is official stand of Indian govt.

 

[Holy Triad]

#Breaking : Huge blast Rocked #Pakistan. Huge blast reported from combined Military Hospital in #Rawalpindi. As per initial reports 16 injured and critical. It don't look like a terror attack.This is highly secured area and hospital! Used by Osama Bin Laden, Hafiz Saeed, Etc



JUST IN: Huge blast reported from Military Hospital in Rawalpindi, Pakistan. At least 10 injured shifted to emergency ward. Reason unknown. Some indicate there was a gas leak.



Interestingly, the Pakistan Army is giving strict instructions to their media to not report this ‘incident’ in Rawalpindi. Wonder why this desperation to hide? Heard not very long ago Jaish Chief and most wanted terrorist Masood Azhar was also admitted here by the Pakistan Army.



Pindi bombed and napaki army issues a gag order?
Something cooking...