Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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asaffronladoftherisingsun

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You are comparing ICs with sophisticated weapons system like S-400, Su-35 👍👍👍

Even a ₹300 Raspberry Pi or Arduino are capable of Dual purpose. Almost everything in electronics and semiconductor is of Dual purpose.

BTW PRC has its own IC and semiconductor base for defense and space applications.

My seeing you guys defend PooTin and his disastrous invasion
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Lullz like the amreekunts never helped chinese in mil techs earlier? 90% of Chinese equipment requires transistors and ICs to be imported from Japan, in fact close to $55billion. I must not teach you how are those weaponised and not just limited for consumer usage. Asking for the 300000000000000th time now. Again how many amreekunts companies has sandp removed for investments in Xinjiang. Volkswagen, Bmw,m and s, nike , uniqlo,pvh, etc?


Dumb pajeeta iq never goes above room temps.

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not disastrous as dealing with afghans riding toyotas taking 20 something years.

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Difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine war is that Ukraine is right next door to Russia. Americunts can afford to leave afghanistan/iraq - Russia cannot .

not to mention US won both Iraq and Afghanistan 'wars' but lost the "occupation" .
 

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Difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine war is that Ukraine is right next door to Russia. Americunts can afford to leave afghanistan - Russia cannot .

not to mention US won both Iraq and Afghanistan 'wars' but lost the "occupation" .
ukraine has more MRLS systems destroyed than Turkey does in its entire MRLS inventory, I even think Ukraine is about to have the most armored vehicles lossed than Turkey would on having alot of armored vehicles inventory. Oh and Ukraine is supported by many NATO specialists using their equipment and given intel around the clock by NATO.

How the U.S. lost the occupation is beyond me in those countries is beyond me
 

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ukraine has more MRLS systems destroyed than Turkey does in its entire MRLS inventory, I even think Ukraine is about to have the most armored vehicles lossed than Turkey would on having alot of armored vehicles inventory. Oh and Ukraine is supported by many NATO specialists using their equipment and given intel around the clock by NATO.

How the U.S. lost the occupation is beyond me in those countries is beyond me
How much ukriane lost doesnt make any difference it's like nazi Germany saying that they wiped out nearly a million soviet soldiers in stalingrad.aginst an enemy that can get even better equipment from the west it hardly makes any difference
 

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It is not a "Typo" when you write the same word in last 5 posts.
This is a "Typo" . "O" and "N" on the keyboard in Cyrillic are located side by side. I don't always sit in front of a personal computer. I can type wrong. When I write in Latin, it takes a long time. And autocorrection doesn't care if Mondi or Modi doesn't know this word. When they write Zelensky or Ukraine with a small letter here, I don’t even emphasize it. This is not a know-it-all forum.
 

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Stop giving BS justification for Russian support to PRC.
Continuing on analogy. Ukraine sold T-80s to Pakistan in 1996 while Russia is selling equipment to PRC as late 2021. BTY Nearly 70% of T-80 components were produced outside of Ukraine (mainly in Russia).
S-400, Su-30, Su-35, etc. are more threat to us that some T-80 that Ukraine sold to Pakistan.
What you are doing is you have a fixed notion for cause and now you are finding justification to support your notions.
Has china ever used its airforce against india? The latest clashes haven’t even involved firearms lol.

Russia is an arms dealer and has clearly stayed nuetral in the whole conflict.


And it’s your European and western masters who made China such a threat today. Without their economic investment China would be nothing
 

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How much ukriane lost doesnt make any difference it's like nazi Germany saying that they wiped out nearly a million soldiers in stalingrad.aginst an enemy that can get even better equipment from the west it hardly makes any difference
I view the Russian ukraine war as a NATO vs Russia ground force simulation and it technically is. But of course they are still fucking around calling reserves instead of any active duty troops. Ukraine does not have an unlimited amount of boides and of course we see nothing but footage of ukrainian equipment or service members getting destroyed and not the other way around. I am more curious as to how many troops Kiev has.
 

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S-400 was transferred to China after Doklam.. I like the Russia specific mental gymnastics you perform..
Anyway, I have no problems whether Russia sells weapons to China, or US sells weapons to Pakistan.. That is what major weapons exporters do.. And US hasn't taken any theka of guaranteeing India's security, and neither has Russia..
The point is that a full scale war between india and China is unlikely to happen as there is something called the “Himalayas”. It’s salami slicing and taking dominating positions which will give effective control and domination over the passes.
 

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How much ukriane lost doesnt make any difference it's like nazi Germany saying that they wiped out nearly a million soldiers in stalingrad.aginst an enemy that can get even better equipment from the west it hardly makes any difference
Actually, the West is running out of arms to send Ukraine. A CNBC report speaks of America being out of 155mm guns and ammunition (manufacturers are being sought).

The U.S. and Europe are running out of weapons to send to Ukraine (cnbc.com)

The US has given Ukraine nearly a million 155 mm artillery shells. Now it's looking for US companies to build more of them. | Business Insider India

It has already sent ten years’ production of Javelins! The latest HIMARS “sent” haven’t been built yet.


"The highly-prized HIMARS artillery system in the US’s latest $1.1 billion security assistance package for Ukraine will take a few years to be built, a Pentagon official said Wednesday. The latest security assistance package is meant to be the beginning of a contracting process for Ukraine’s mid-to-long-term defense, the US defense official said. Other equipment will take six to 24 months to get to Ukraine as well, the official added."

Similar stories from Europe. The available stock of ex-Soviet equipment is gone – 28 (“modernized” 20 years ago) T55 tanks scrounged from Slovenia are the latest “wonder weapon”.



The West does not have the industrial capacity to sustain modern war. Everything that has been sent to Ukraine so far has been from existing stocks. Western militaries must either start cannibalizing their standing armies or stop. Then what? Western weapons made the September offensive possible.

On the other hand, there are many videos of trains carrying heavy equipment west. I’ve seen tanks, Mstas, BM-21s, Iskanders and lots of BMPs. Nothing suggests that Russia is running out of anything. This suggests preparations for a large-scale Russian Army armored offensive along traditional deep penetration doctrine.

The status of the new four regions opens the possibility of more forceful actions by the Russian Armed Forces as such because they are “defending the Motherland”.

There is a good deal of plausible speculation that the 300 thousand man call up may free up soldiers in the rear. If so, the effect of the extra troops may be felt sooner than many expect.

As far as razputitsa (распутица), winter and other things beloved of TV commentators, it’s not the USSR in 1941. There are a lot of paved roads and Russians are well-equipped and experienced for fighting in winter. Therefore there is no guarantee that things will be quiet for four or five months.
 

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Where am i mad with Bharat's neutral position ? India is doing the right thing with its neutrality on Ukraine.. as it helps India's energy security.. But, US would react.. It's just that India would have to live with it..
Very good let amreekunts go around picking quarrels and ask Bharat to "pick a side"!

If at all then BHARAT picks a side, it is BHARAT's side.
 

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Actually, the West is running out of arms to send Ukraine. A CNBC report speaks of America being out of 155mm guns and ammunition (manufacturers are being sought).

The U.S. and Europe are running out of weapons to send to Ukraine (cnbc.com)

The US has given Ukraine nearly a million 155 mm artillery shells. Now it's looking for US companies to build more of them. | Business Insider India

It has already sent ten years’ production of Javelins! The latest HIMARS “sent” haven’t been built yet.


"The highly-prized HIMARS artillery system in the US’s latest $1.1 billion security assistance package for Ukraine will take a few years to be built, a Pentagon official said Wednesday. The latest security assistance package is meant to be the beginning of a contracting process for Ukraine’s mid-to-long-term defense, the US defense official said. Other equipment will take six to 24 months to get to Ukraine as well, the official added."

Similar stories from Europe. The available stock of ex-Soviet equipment is gone – 28 (“modernized” 20 years ago) T55 tanks scrounged from Slovenia are the latest “wonder weapon”.



The West does not have the industrial capacity to sustain modern war. Everything that has been sent to Ukraine so far has been from existing stocks. Western militaries must either start cannibalizing their standing armies or stop. Then what? Western weapons made the September offensive possible.

On the other hand, there are many videos of trains carrying heavy equipment west. I’ve seen tanks, Mstas, BM-21s, Iskanders and lots of BMPs. Nothing suggests that Russia is running out of anything. This suggests preparations for a large-scale Russian Army armored offensive along traditional deep penetration doctrine.

The status of the new four regions opens the possibility of more forceful actions by the Russian Armed Forces as such because they are “defending the Motherland”.

There is a good deal of plausible speculation that the 300 thousand man call up may free up soldiers in the rear. If so, the effect of the extra troops may be felt sooner than many expect.

As far as razputitsa (распутица), winter and other things beloved of TV commentators, it’s not the USSR in 1941. There are a lot of paved roads and Russians are well-equipped and experienced for fighting in winter. Therefore there is no guarantee that things will be quiet for four or five months.
@Master Chief + the 60,000 roasted khokhols
 

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How the U.S. lost the occupation is beyond me in those countries is beyond me
Its simple. Its just become not worth the cost and effort to maintain US forces in such distant location providing no strategic value.
US achieved its primary goal in both cases and sustaining this effort was productive.
If you see US exited Afghanistan at perfect time.
With Afghanistan exited it can focus on Russia in Ukraine diverting necessary resources that would have been consumed in Afghanistan.
 

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I view the Russian ukraine war as a NATO vs Russia ground force simulation and it technically is. But of course they are still fucking around calling reserves instead of any active duty troops. Ukraine does not have an unlimited amount of boides and of course we see nothing but footage of ukrainian equipment or service members getting destroyed and not the other way around. I am more curious as to how many troops Kiev has.
Now in the army there are 700K + other law enforcement agencies. In total, in the defense of the country - 1M.
 

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With Afghanistan exited it can focus on Russia in Ukraine diverting necessary resources that would have been consumed in Afghanistan.
I mean it can focus resources for ukraine but what objective is being achieved other than the possibility that ukraine will get demilitarized? The Pentagon head chief said they will still support ukraine no matter the course outcome, not that the support they are currently giving will guarantee ukraine keeping its country from Russia.
 

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