Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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asaffronladoftherisingsun

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I have my doubts about this CINC.. How does it accommodate China's lack of self sufficiency in Energy, food, and its geographic and naval vulnerabilities ? India is on the right track.. And you are right, India needs to stay neutral in the Ukraine war, and continue to import oil and coal from Russia..
Write a peer review work we are waiting.


Yes we need to stay neutral and diversify our oil portfolio. Enough of the opecfags funding the subhuman jihadifags.
 

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So.. Russia arms China, its America's fault.. Russia has no agency of its own ?
Anyway, India is not a major weapons exporter.. Also, US Pakistan relationship as Exporter - Importer is 60 years old, and much older than Indo-US defense relationship. Pakistan is also designated as a major non NATO ally by US Congress ( a status they have not removed even during the peak of Afghan insurgency" ).. So, why Should India act "You hurt me re baba".. Was the India -US defense relationship predicated on the US cutting off its relations with Pakistan ?
US ne kya India ke security ka theka leke rakha hain ..? INDIA is non aligned remember ..
Yes you are right .. Countries should be allowed to send weapons wherever they want ..
So it would be totally cool if India sends russian origin equipment manufactured in India to Russia ?
It "shouldn't be a big deal" as you say with the americans right ?
 

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So.. Russia arms China, its America's fault.. Russia has no agency of its own ?
Anyway, India is not a major weapons exporter.. Also, US Pakistan relationship as Exporter - Importer is 60 years old, and much older than Indo-US defense relationship. Pakistan is also designated as a major non NATO ally by US Congress ( a status they have not removed even during the peak of Afghan insurgency" ).. So, why Should India act "You hurt me re baba".. Was the India -US defense relationship predicated on the US cutting off its relations with Pakistan ?
US ne kya India ke security ka theka leke rakha hain ..? INDIA is non aligned remember ..
That is because of amreekunts sanction trash forced russia towards china. Neither those stupid amreekunts have sanctioned china once.

Asking for the 300000000000000th time now. Again how many amreekunts companies has sandp removed for investments in Xinjiang. Volkswagen, Bmw,m and s, nike , uniqlo,pvh, etc?

Keep in mind that ccp is far greater threat to everybody as even amreeki accepts it alone cant challenge and defeat them in eco, tech and mil domains. Russia not in that league. As far the eu it sees China as “partner” but “push back, constrain” approach for the russians.

To demand that only a recognisably democratic russia according to eurofags standards would be eligible for accommodation. In this sense russia has NO agency.
 

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Well.. US was engaged in similar shenanigans in China too.. with the Tiananmen square Protests which had American footprint.. But, that didn't stop China from taking advantage of American market or technology.. Modi govt. has already cut off funding to most of their NGOs.. We will have to be on constant vigil.

Going full mental on a superpower like America, does a lot more harm than good.. We just need to deal with the American Bhootnikes with our eyes open..:)
 

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Yes you are right .. Countries should be allowed to send weapons wherever they want ..
So it would be totally cool if India sends russian origin equipment manufactured in India to Russia ?
It "shouldn't be a big deal" as you say with the americans right ?
We should offer a free $450 million package to service Russian Sukhois for counter terror operations.

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Well.. US was engaged in similar shenanigans in China too.. with the Tiananmen square Protests which had American footprint.. But, that didn't stop China from taking advantage of American market or technology.. Modi govt. has already cut off funding to most of their NGOs.. We will have to be on constant vigil.

Going full mental on a superpower like America, does a lot more harm than good.. We just need to deal with the American Bhootnikes with our eyes open..:)
Tianamen square protests are jokes buddy. China massacred their amreekunt coolies long ago. Chinese do not allow any of the amreekunt ownerships in any of their institutions.

But what BHARAT got as primary document was Goverment of India act 1919 all the way upto Governement of India act 1935 from there you get the constitution of 1947ad.

There never were any Governement of China act. So you cannot draw that equivalence in this regards.

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So that is not just selling weapons. This is some good level of gaandmasti. Go through any atrocity literature all comes from harvard not from the moskva. So that is quite absurd why you are so mad about Bharat's neutral position.
 

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Asking for the 300000000000000th time now. Again how many amreekunts companies has sandp removed for investments in Xinjiang. Volkswagen, Bmw,m and s, nike , uniqlo,pvh, etc?
US has forced companies to stop buying Xinjiang cotton for example.. Another, US foreign policy is not based on morality.. Otherwise they would not be sucking up Saudis after their atrocities in Yemen, or mollycoddle Pakistan, after their genocide in Bangladesh..
But, then, again I reiterate that India will be harmed by bandwagoning on any anti US block.. US is our biggest export destination.. We just need to deal with the US with open eyes..
 

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So it would be totally cool if India sends russian origin equipment manufactured in India to Russia ?
It would be totally cool if India sells Russian origin equipment manufactured in India to Russia.
payment should be in India Rupees or USD or barter trade for oil/gas/minerals.
We should start with the T-series tanks.
 

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I don't completely buy that social media is a fully accurate representation of societies thought.. But I have seen a marked shift over the last 2 weeks among westerners attitude towards this war.
Ukrainian officials would do well not to insult their benefactors .
 

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It would be totally cool if India sells Russian origin equipment manufactured in India to Russia.
payment should be in India Rupees or USD or barter trade for oil/gas/minerals.
We should start with the T-series tanks.
Agreed. And if the americans complain we should tell them
“We don’t view our relationship with Pakistan Russia, and on the other hand, we don’t view our relationship with India USA as in relation to one another. These are both partners of ours with different points of emphasis in each,” State Department Spokesperson Ned Price MEA Spokesman Arindam Bagchi
told reporters at his daily news conference.

“We look to both as partners, because we do have in many cases shared values. We do have in many cases shared interests. And the relationship we have with India USA stands on its own. The relationship we have with Pakistan Russia stands on its own,” he said.
 
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So that is quite absurd why you are so mad about Bharat's neutral position.
Where am i mad with Bharat's neutral position ? India is doing the right thing with its neutrality on Ukraine.. as it helps India's energy security.. But, US would react.. It's just that India would have to live with it..
 

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Meanwhile the chinese import ic from the japs.

So what?
You are comparing ICs with sophisticated weapons system like S-400, Su-35 👍👍👍
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Even a ₹300 Raspberry Pi or Arduino are capable of Dual purpose. Almost everything in electronics and semiconductor is of Dual purpose.

BTW PRC has its own IC and semiconductor base for defense and space applications.

My seeing you guys defend PooTin and his disastrous invasion
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asaffronladoftherisingsun

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US has forced companies to stop buying Xinjiang cotton for example.. Another, US foreign policy is not based on morality.. Otherwise they would not be sucking up Saudis after their atrocities in Yemen, or mollycoddle Pakistan, after their genocide in Bangladesh..
But, then, again I reiterate that India will be harmed by bandwagoning on any anti US block.. US is our biggest export destination.. We just need to deal with the US with open eyes..
That is all in paper and theory then ban a thing and open for three new things.

Exactly why there are no superpower umbrellas. Exactly why Atmanibharta clause overrides everything wrt economics.

We know since russian support during galwan was neutral and so is our reciprocation towards the ukraine. This is acceptable neutrality for national interest of both the countries.

Our relation with amreekunts similarly are based on transactions and reciprocity unless we see a verifiable change in their behavior.

We have got caatsa waiver is a proof we are dealing with amreekunts securing our interests as we must. Nothing more than that. There is never any love in the air in geopolitics. So camp following is dumb.
 

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You are comparing ICs with sophisticated weapons system like S-400, Su-35 👍👍👍

Even a ₹300 Raspberry Pi or Arduino are capable of Dual purpose. Almost everything in electronics and semiconductor is of Dual purpose.

BTW PRC has its own IC and semiconductor base for defense and space applications.

My seeing you guys defend PooTin and his disastrous invasion
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not disastrous as dealing with afghans riding toyotas taking 20 something years.

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