Russia Ukraine War 2022

[LETHALFORCE]

China says suspending Russia from UN body sets ‘dangerous new precedent’

Foreign ministry spokesman says China ‘opposes the politicisation’ of human rights issues.

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China says suspending Russia from UN human rights body sets ‘dangerous new precedent’

 

[LETHALFORCE]

How Much Should India Worry About Closer China-Russia Ties?

Russia won’t sacrifice its ties to India to please China – but Moscow also won’t back New Delhi against Beijing.

thediplomat.com

How Much Should India Worry About Closer China-Russia Ties?
Russia won’t sacrifice its ties to India to please China – but Moscow also won’t back New Delhi against Beijing.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Time to set unhrc on fire.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

China is applying same principle to India: Rahul Gandhi on Russia-Ukraine war

Like Russia is denying that Donetsk and Luhansk are part of Ukraine, China also says Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh are not India's, Rahul Gandhi said adding that the government is not taking Chinese threat seriously.

www.hindustantimes.com

China is applying same principle to India: Rahul Gandhi on Russia-Ukraine war

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Most Hinduphobic trash unhrcucks.

 

[gajapati]

In early days of war there was impression that india ukraine relationship was not on good lines previously due to campaign in twitter by some folks and unfortunate incidents with respect to miss treatments of indian students .. But further inspection suggests we indeed have a very strategic relationship .. 20,000 students studying in ukraine .. Upgrade contract for 100 military transport aircraft , Indian navy ship engines , parts equipment for indian tanks .. import of 70% of sunflower oil needs ..

And after the war ends this relationship ll continue it looks like unless everything is destroyed there .. We have functional relationship with both ukraine and russia .. More strategic with respect to Russia because of its greater geopolitical role , critical military technology and legacy .

 

[Dark Sorrow]

INDIA WILL ABSTAIN, EVEN IF ASKED...

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Actually this is a very good opportunity for us to set our-self in world stage.
Just like Israel and Turkey we can talk and negotiate with both parties.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Alternatives To Russian Weapons "Too Expensive", India Told US: Report

India is optimistic about talks next week with the US on military cooperation even as the Biden administration becomes more vocal in rebuking New Delhi over its reluctance to criticize Russia's war in Ukraine, people familiar with the matter said.

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Alternatives To Russian Weapons "Too Expensive", India Told US

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Actually this is a very good opportunity for us to set our-self in world stage.
Just like Israel and Turkey we can talk and negotiate with both parties.

Neither of them will listen to us..
So, Modi is right in abstaining from everything...

 

[gajapati]

Alternatives To Russian Weapons "Too Expensive", India Told US: Report

India is optimistic about talks next week with the US on military cooperation even as the Biden administration becomes more vocal in rebuking New Delhi over its reluctance to criticize Russia's war in Ukraine, people familiar with the matter said.

www.ndtv.com

Alternatives To Russian Weapons "Too Expensive", India Told US

Era of mass scale foreign defence purchase ll end 2030 onwards in my assessment ..Purchase of Only some high tech stuffs or joint collaboration ll happen . May be MMRCA 2.0 if gets go ahead ll be last ... There is no autonomy if you are too much depended for defence and energy needs ... Removing Defence dependence by 2035-40 and energy dependency by 2060 should be our national goal .

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Era of mass scale foreign defence purchase ll end 2030 onwards in my assessment ..Purchase of Only some high tech stuffs or joint collaboration ll happen . May be MMRCA 2.0 if gets go ahead ll be last ... There is no autonomy if you are too much depended for defence and energy needs ... Removing Defence dependence by 2035-40 and energy dependency by 2060 should be our national goal .

energy dependency is not gonna be gone by 2060 unless we find the motherload of O&G in Indian territories.
Oil age is not gonna end by then, it won't end by 2100.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Era of mass scale foreign defence purchase ll end 2030 onwards in my assessment ..Purchase of Only some high tech stuffs or joint collaboration ll happen . May be MMRCA 2.0 if gets go ahead ll be last ... There is no autonomy if you are too much depended for defence and energy needs ... Removing Defence dependence by 2035-40 and energy dependency by 2060 should be our national goal .

For a big country like India (which should have own indigenous capability ) it
took decades to realize this. Now I hope it will not be decades to implement?

 

[Blademaster]

Is Russia pissed off at us now that we didn't vote in favour of them with the UNHRC removal?

I think Russia understands India's position. In exchange for India not criticizing Russia, India will abstain and be neutral.

 

[Dr_Deep]

India will cut defence buying from Russia, once Indian indegenous platforms are ready. T
The reason Indian buys Russian and French, over American, is because France and Russia offers complete sovereign control of the weapons platforms, down to even teaching most of the maintanance craft of the equipment ( unless they are truely massive infrastructure costs, such as re-fitting a ship or a sub).

USA does not allow even its own NATO allies like Canada or UK to do basic maintanance on American products - even in CAF bases, there is a contingent of american engineering corps, who's job is to maintain the superhornet.
This is the singular feature - strategic vassalhood- is why America has not been able to break into the Indian market for capital military assets - when India needs cheap and bulk, they go Russian, when they need high end latest tech, they bend over and pay 150% more for French maal ( compared to amreeki maal). Because both France and Russia offers the one thing USA does not- strategic independence of military hardware.

But aren't they offering to build F-21s ( Glorified F16s) in India , with a complete techincal and maintenance if selected under the MMRCA ? Also did the Lockheed Martin already building Apache Helicopter parts ( Shells etc) along with TATA in Hyd ? US declared India as Strategic Defense Partner for sharing technology, the LCA Tejas is dependent on GE engines and numerous other techs that comes from Amriki companies. Israel which is another vassal state of US is selling all kinds of weapons to India. The reason why Amrikcans are uncomfortable with India going Ruski platforms is because they want weapons that are NATO interpotable and doesnt have any Chinese tech. Russian systems nowadays uses lots of chinese electronics in its weapons platform and hence it been a red flag for the West.
American Defense Companies are looking forward to invest and open up manufacturing in India ..the scale and sophistication of these companies are much higher than their French or Russian counterparts and can help generate a big Aviation Industrial base for the India. Coming days you going to see less less defence on Russian platforms on the contracts expired and shifting towards Europeans or American systems.

 

[Blademaster]

I will disagree with you on this video. This is a typical congress behavior. Blame the gov while sounding intellectual. On all of the issues he spoke the GOI had no control over them On students issue gov issued a notification a month ago but the students did not listen. Regrading admission in medical colleges in India, he blamed the government but I think until you remove reservation nothing is going to happen. Will congress support the BJP when bjp will try to remove reservations. I don't think so. Regarding using diplomacy to mediate between RUS and UKR. GOI already answered a million times that the international community should come forward. I don't know what more GOI should do. We have been neutral because we have interest's and not that we have been friends with Russia. Shashi Tharoor is misinterpreting our neutrality.

You are right but at least Tharoor is shades better than the rest of Opposition who screams loudly and bangs on the desk and blame the GoI for everything and say anything that he or she thinks will stick like Rahfool Ganda is fond of doing.

 

[Blademaster]

EU Coal sanctions to take effect from August 2022.. Bade aaram se..

I think Russia should ban exports of coal to Germany and EU now. Pay them pay for the imposition of sanctions or at the very least demand a surcharge on the export of coal and everything has to be paid in rubles. If they say no, then ok they don't get anything now.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

But aren't they offering to build F-21s ( Glorified F16s) in India , with a complete techincal and maintenance if selected under the MMRCA ? Also did the Lockheed Martin already building Apache Helicopter parts ( Shells etc) along with TATA in Hyd ? US declared India as Strategic Defense Partner for sharing technology, the LCA Tejas is dependent on GE engines and numerous other techs that comes from Amriki companies. Israel which is another vassal state of US is selling all kinds of weapons to India. The reason why Amrikcans are uncomfortable with India going Ruski platforms is because they want weapons that are NATO interpotable and doesnt have any Chinese tech. Russian systems nowadays uses lots of chinese electronics in its weapons platform and hence it been a red flag for the West.
American Defense Companies are looking forward to invest and open up manufacturing in India ..the scale and sophistication of these companies are much higher than their French or Russian counterparts and can help generate a big Aviation Industrial base for the India. Coming days you going to see less less defence on Russian platforms on the contracts expired and shifting towards Europeans or American systems.

Made in India is screwdriver-giri. Ie, evey critical component will be made in USA itself, just like it will be in france and only the non critical components, like the air frame, wiring, etc. will be made in India, while everything else is assembled in India.
Look at Su-30MKI. Do we make the AL-31FP in India ? Nope. It comes, in a box and we do screwdriver-giri to it in the assembly plant.

With Russian & French maal, IAF itself will be trained on maintanance. with F-whatever maal, the yankees will set up a plant in India, then send 50 yankees to live near that plant and do screwdriver-giri for the F-x that needs maintanance.

The reason they want India to go with US weapons, is because it makes India strategically dependent on US and creates mucho dinero for what is the main manufacturing industry of USA currently : weapons. It also gives them a golden opportunity to embed their military personnel amongst India's midst, in the guise of maintanance team.

Contracts wont shift much to Yankee systems, without Yankees doing actual ToT to India ( highly unlikely), due to the strategic slavery to american industrial complex ( remember, they do not let even us canadians train our RCAF people in how to maintain the F-35. Yankees sit in our bases and do it for us).

France will get some contracts, russia will get some too, especially in the missile department as Ru missiles are still more sophisticated than western missiles for the major part of the various missile classes ( they are only behind in A2A missiles and that too, due to crappier avionics). But the major push will be to make in India.

 

[Dr_Deep]

LOL. No. This is true if and only if you are fighting over neutral grounds. if you are fighting in my air space, after i have saturated it with ground and space-based radar, your fancypants stealth aircraft is visible. Dont forget, Russia provided proof of tracking F-35s in Syria couple of years ago via their space based radar.


No. Thats typical yankee propaganda. Yankee products have been substandard for a very long time, especially in consumer articles and heavy machinery. in consumer products, made in America label means less quality than Made in China these days.
most of American R&D spending is on lining their pockets of their bloated corporate structures.

We drink from the same pond, its just that i havent lost my mind like you have via western propaganda.

No, you are the one drinking kool aid from old Soviet emotionality. American defense products are made by private corporations all eyeing to make the bid. Some make it some dont. They have to show quaterly earning and answer to the shareholders. The competitive nature of free market drives them to efficient and innovative. Similar is the case for UK's BAE, French Dassault or Israel's IAI. Russians on the other inherited the old Soviet style PSUs, now run by Oligarhs connected to Putinva.
Hence the lack of innovation and drive for efficiency is there. Even the Chinese defence companies are better than Russian.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Inspite of massive movement of Ukrainian Re-enforcements in Eastern Ukraine, Russia continues with half baked war effort without taking out:-

Electricity grids
Railway bridges
Road bridges
Telecom switching & ground stations
Major civil industry
Food, milk storage
All Radio & TV stations

This is Not gonna end well for Russia. Putin is not a super genius evil as USA has made him out to be. This neither here nor there approach shows his lack of confidence & conviction in himself

 

[vishnugupt]

Factory !!
It seems like, Russian are playing in Miramar (BGMI game)