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Cheran

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Going on for many years mate. What you saw today in Manipur was not a new development.
My concern is - Has this been predicted by IB?

If so, reports would have been shared with Center & state.

Or did this come as a surprise to IB?

Either way, it does not look good.

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My concern is - Has this been predicted by IB?

If so, reports would have been shared with Center & state.

Or did this come as a surprise to IB?

Either way, it does not look good.

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No surprises.

Everything was anticipated by the agencies and forwarded to higher-ups.

It was the approach of the govt responsible for current condition in Manipur.
 

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This my friend answered one of the of core problems, Manipur was a princely state before it merged into the Union of India, and it was the Meitei kingdom known as Kangleipak now we live in our own land where the alien has more rights than you. They do really play the victim card saying they are oppressed if you see the top post you will know where they belong. Now they have started their drama in Manipur Bhavan in Delhi shouting to impose PR in Manipur, as if like honorable PM and HM will be fooled by their chicanery.
 

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Now they have started their drama in Manipur Bhavan in Delhi shouting to impose PR in Manipur, as if like honorable PM and HM will be fooled by their chicanery.
Article 355 imposed or not? Mate.
 

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I am not much into Politics, but ever since BJP came to power in NE yes there are some major hiccups but are largely peaceful as well. If you read a little up, during the 90s there were major Clashes btw the Nagas and Kuki and we used to shelter them thinking we should act like big brothers, but lately, they are playing tribal and Christian cards and trying to portray us as the enemy.
i was about to write this exactly . Kukis are the last waves of the sino-tibetan tribe to come to northeast. Infact most of them arrived just after british occupation and they are still coming. They settled in all land not occupied by the Nagas and the meitis. in my opinion meitei are just plain-dwelling aryanised nagas. They have strong cultural link with the rongmei nagas of the hills. when the naga-kukis clashes were taking places, metei people simply ignored it , terming it stupid tribals fighting among themselve , and now that have come to challenge meitei in their own homeland. such fall from grace. it is lost now. All the meitei people can do is align with naga people and mount a strong opposition.
 

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i was about to write this exactly . Kukis are the last waves of the sino-tibetan tribe to come to northeast. Infact most of them arrived just after british occupation and they are still coming. They settled in all land not occupied by the Nagas and the meitis. in my opinion meitei are just plain-dwelling aryanised nagas. They have strong cultural link with the rongmei nagas of the hills. when the naga-kukis clashes were taking places, metei people simply ignored it , terming it stupid tribals fighting among themselve , and now that have come to challenge meitei in their own homeland. such fall from grace. it is lost now. All the meitei people can do is align with naga people and mount a strong opposition.
Also the naga folks from the hills need some spanking on the back to put them in their original place, which is nature worshipping and other animistic rituals that tribals of assam follows. This christianity missonaries are going out of hand now. Almost every other person i meet from arunachal are now converted into christians.

 

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People are very emotional on both sides now, some folks have looted some koti and you can see people on scooty and trucks with AKs and INSAS rifles, with that in their hands and feeling going wild and going out to take revenge things won't be quite that soon sadly
How are things in your area?
 

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i was about to write this exactly . Kukis are the last waves of the sino-tibetan tribe to come to northeast. Infact most of them arrived just after british occupation and they are still coming. They settled in all land not occupied by the Nagas and the meitis. in my opinion meitei are just plain-dwelling aryanised nagas. They have strong cultural link with the rongmei nagas of the hills. when the naga-kukis clashes were taking places, metei people simply ignored it , terming it stupid tribals fighting among themselve , and now that have come to challenge meitei in their own homeland. such fall from grace. it is lost now. All the meitei people can do is align with naga people and mount a strong opposition.
I did like to differ a bit here, Meitei is as said was earlier the ruler of the princely state of Manipur before merged into the union of India, during that period Meitei were the majority and had many subjects, and Naga ( it is collection of many tribes) settle at many parts of the hills after independence and being Christianized they became politically and religiously more active. To understand better Naga = Ao, Poumai, Lotha, Tangkhul etc. like in Maharashtra Marathi = Agri, Bhoi Banjara etc.
Yes, when Naga and Kuki fought an ethnic war, we simply ignored or help the Kuki who were escaping the clashes by giving shelter, which was in 1992-93 then Kuki vs Paite 97-98 many people were killed, and now two decades later with us. Yes, unity with Naga to have a strong opposition is a must but there are some huge differences too one needs to overcome the hurdle first.
What I hate the most is they will always going to play the religious and tribal card (more like the victim card) they are so active on social media that meitei are painted as the bad guys.
How are things in your area?
My cousin is flying out of the state today, while going to Airport he said, the airport look like a refugee camp and the road was like a mess after a Zombie attack.
 

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Yesterday Event 11 life lost so far,
Police started engaging armed militant of certain community


Acts of violence, arson and assault which started from the mass rally organised by the All Tribal Students' Union Manipur (ATSUM) yesterday raged on for the second consecutive day on Thursday.

The violence has so far claimed at least 11 lives while hundreds have been wounded and many houses and properties have been demolished or burnt down.

One individual was killed in mob violence at Singjamei Bazar last night where a vehicle was also torched.

In one incident which took place at Kangpokpi last night, shots were fired.

As police retaliated, one individual was killed.

In another incident of firing, one more person died at Torbung Bangla.


A mob violence which took place at Kakwa Nameirakpam Leikai this morning claimed one life while two other sustained injuries.

The other two succumbed to the injuries at RIMS in the afternoon.

There are reports of the killing of one person at Moreh Ward No 7 yesterday and two others at Senjam Chirang today.

One individual who came with an MLA was killed in another mob violence which took place at RIMS Road this afternoon.

The MLA also sustained critical injuries and he was admitted to RIMS ICU.

Another man was also killed at Chajing today.

Large scale violence was reported from Churachand-pur, Moreh, Gamgiphai, Motbung and Saikul areas yesterday.

As the mass rally taken out in some hill districts was winding up, one community started attacking another community and many houses and shops were set ablaze and properties belonging to a particular community were plundered.

As photographs and video clips of the acts of violence were circulated in social media, the situation flared up igniting a chain reaction.

A house belonging to a Minister was set ablaze by a mob at Koirengei last evening.

Two other houses of the locality were also torched.

As the violence spread like a wildfire, thousands of people were displaced from their homes. A large number of people who ran away from Sapermeina, Motbung, Kanglatongbi and Kanto took shelter at Sekmai.

A large group of people who were armed with sophisticated weapons set ablaze many houses at Mairenpat, Pukhao and Dolaithabi last night.

The attackers also torched all the vehicles including heavy vehicles.

It was reported that all the houses of Ikou were reduced to cinders.

In retaliation to last night's attack, many neighbouring houses were set ablaze this morning.

As a mob tried to attack a particular locality along Dingku Road last night, one individual was hit by a bullet fired from the locality and he succumbed to the injuries.

This further enraged the mob and they raised a hue and cry on Tinsid Road.

A large number of people came out to Tiddim Road this morning and they halted all the vehicles between Keishampat and Imphal Airport and checked if there was any member of a particular community.

At around 11.30 am, one Bolero was set ablaze on Tiddim Road.

Subsequently, around 10 vehicles were torched on the road.

House of a former Minister located at Lamphel, another house of an ex-MP located on Langol Road and one house of a former Congress MLA located at Lamphel were set ablaze at around noon.

A mob attacked another locality at Sangaiprou and set afire some houses including the house of an ex-MLA.

In their efforts to control the situation, police fired several rounds of tear gas shells.

Two shopping malls namely; Bazar India located at New Checkon and Vishal Mega Mart located at Chingmeirong were also set ablaze by mobs.

There are also reports of exchange of fire at a locality located close to Laipham Khunou.

It is said that some houses at yet another locality of Mahaballi were also torched by another mob today.

Sources said that some religious structures have also been vandalised or torched since the violence erupted on Wednesday.

Meanwhile, a large number of Rapid Action Force (RAF) troops arrived at Imphal today to control the raging violence and bring normalcy in the State.

Our Moirang Correspondent adds: A large number of families belonging to a particular community who have been living in Churachandpur since a long time back have taken shelter at relief camps opened by Assam Rifles and other Central security forces.

Moreover, around 400 people were evacuated from Churachandpur amid tight security arrangements and lodged in a relief camp opened at Moirang after they were given first aid at Kwakta.

Meanwhile, a team of Manipur Police and a group of hill-based militants were engaged in a heavy exchange of fire at Kangvai, on the western hill range of Phougakchao.

One civilian was caught in the crossfire and sustained injuries on the ear.

He was taken to Imphal for treatment after receiving first aid at Moirang.

A large number of people displaced by the violence are taking shelter in relief camps opened at Moirang Multipurpose Higher Secondary School, Khoyol Keithel, Ibudhou Thangjing Guest House and Sribon Leikai Community Hall.

Even though around 800 people have been evacuated from Churachandpur, many are still left in the district under a highly insecure situation.

Even as the civilians are eagerly awaiting evacuation, security forces are refusing to evacuate them citing inadequate manpower.

Some of the places where the situation is highly volatile or explosive are Torbung, Bangla, Kangvai and Phougakchao Ikhai but no additional security forces or paramilitary forces have been deployed at these places so far.
 

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Another tid-bits frm Opindia, meitei population is 53%.

90% area of manipur is declared "tribal area", means meitei cannot buy land there.

Another messed-up state. Hindus at receiving end frm Abrahmic religion.
 

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India needs to spend on internal security. Sometimes i feel police station should have machine gun nests. They be given right to simply spray on unruly mob destroying normal life and property. India must not strengthen notion that Indian democracy kneels down in front of mobocracy. Otherwise agent provaceuters shall in no time try maidaan revolution or arab spring here using same mob.
 

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On a trivial note,
The current RSS chief has visited more than any of his predecessors and to him (my conjecture) it is the last Hindu frontier if Manipur dilutes then it comes back to Assam. That being said, one of my friends who was doing PSO duty overheard, while taken to a famous Hindu temple here, MB saying please don't take me here, take me to your native religious place and preserved it, ever since he said that a lot of ancient religious places are getting lots of funding.
 

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Bad.

It has spilled over to Meghalaya.


Manipur Ethnic Tensions Spill Over To Other States Even As Centre Takes Over Law And Order Machinery


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A peace rally with militants armed with AK-47 rifles. The last time it happened was in Kashmir after which Hindu's were wiped out and the remaining fled from Kashmir. Same is happening in #Manipur.

 

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And these all happening right when Chinese FM is in India for SCO meet.
 

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A peace rally with militants armed with AK-47 rifles. The last time it happened was in Kashmir after which Hindu's were wiped out and the remaining fled from Kashmir. Same is happening in #Manipur.

Are Hindus armed here to defend and fight
 

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some background on manipur violence, no idea on validity.
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I have copy pasted the message sent to me by a local there and they have explained what is happening there:

“Total land area of Manipur is approximately 22,000 sq km where the 10% valley area is surrounded by 90% hills from all sides.

Manipur is inhabited by four major groups - The Meiteis, Nagas, Kukis and Meitei Pangals

The valley Meiteis are Hindus while the hill people Naga and Kuki are Christians n the Meitei Pangals are Muslims. After Independence the Meiteis are classified as Generals n the hill people as Scheduled Tribes.

The present issue is mainly from 3 reasons
1)Most of the hills where the Kukis settles, they have poppy plantations and recently the government has been destroying poppy plantations and they are angry at the government for this. They say it is their livelihood- plantation of poppy illegally for processing of heroine and drugs .

2) All land belongs to the government including the hills and forests. Kukis are settled in Myanmar too and because of the Myanmar military issue many Myanmar Kukis are illegal immigrants to the hills of Manipur and the Manipur Kukis are helping the Myanmar Kukis to settle in the hills and making fake aadhar they are becoming citizens illegally. More recent villages were coming up, government found out that the illegal immigrants were encroaching the reserved forest areas n evicting them. But the Kukis are playing victim card n claiming the hills belong to them .

3) The 90% hills land of the hills are protected by MLR &LR act and article 371c (something similar to article 370)as the hill people are Scheduled Tribes, and no one can buy land and settle in tribal land.
So population is sparcely populated in the hills while in the 10% valley land - the land of the indigenous Meiteis-where the Meitei settled since time immemorial and which has more than 2000 years chronicled history, since they are general everyone comes n settles for business and work buying land and permanent settlement.

Anyone and everyone can settle in the valley. The Meiteis are becoming minority in their own land in the very near future. No safeguard of the indigenous Meiteis just because all are General while the same indigenous hill people the tribals get safeguard as STs . And because of this discrimination among the indigenous people of the same state Meiteis are demanding ST status to get constitutional safeguard. But the Tribals are opposing it.

Manipur government has been sitting cold over the issue but recently The high court of Manipur directed the State government to send recommendations to the centre to include Meiteis in ST.

The tribals instead of appealing in Supreme Court have been threatening for agitation which eventually was held yesterday as a supposedly peace rally turned violent from Churachandpur district - kuki populated district where thousands of kuki youths including armed Kuki militants crossed over to the bordering valley District of Bishnupur and burned Meitei houses which killed people including a a 2 yr old infant

After this news became viral Meiteis retaliated And now it’s second day running Communal riots are happening all over Manipur between Kukis and Meiteis many houses burned including Hindu temples and Christian churches and many killed”

 

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