North East Security Watch

[ezsasa]

A distinction needs to be made between Christians and Church.

I know plenty of patriotic Christians myself who'll die for the country. I also know that the Indian Church doesn't give a fuck about India and it'll gladly help CIA or any other entity to cause chaos in India.

Remember the "Palghar" incident where 2 Hindu Sadhus were lynched to death? The local Church provided legal help to the lynchers.

I'm from the South btw i.e Andhra. Don't play the regional victim card here.

you have made your points. get back to security aspect if any.

 

[BreathOfAnnhilation]

I used to think state control over information flow is what we need, no longer think so.

will have to rethink some of my old assumptions.

But whatever those assumptions are, state control over information flow is a essential part of maintaining internal peace and dealing with external threat.

 

[Vinash]

But the same church bends over backwards to please the Chinese. The Chinese have surely found the right way to deal with Whites, church, insurgents, etc.

Humans irrespective of religion are very simple beings. They understand and respect strength only.

If the opposing party doesn't hesitate to hurt you, they'll respect you even if they hate you.

Can India do this?

 

[Suryavanshi]

Anyway what is the moral and right course of action moving forward?
Workers who were killed need to be compensated to the fullest but what about the ones who attacked the camp?

 

[Vinash]

you have made your points. get back to security aspect if any.

If you don't go after the Church, the insurgency will continue for another 100 years.

It's not a complex issue.

Indians have a way of complicating things to hide their own cowardice.

 

[Suryavanshi]

If you don't go after the Church, the insurgency will continue for another 100 years.

It's not a complex issue.

Indians have a way of complicating things to hide their own cowardice.

In the modern world u can't genocide people like the Turks did with Armenians those days are gone.
Issue will continue to fester In some shape of form but there is a scope to make it better.

 

[Vinash]

In the modern world u can't genocide people like the Turks did with Armenians those days are gone.
Issue will continue to fester In some shape of form but there is a scope to make it better.

I wasn't advocating genocide LOL

Going after the Church means, deal with them with an iron fist. Keep an eye on their financials, their missionary activity etc

Churches get a lot of foreign funding. Some of it is used to finance militants.

 

[Suryavanshi]

@ezsasa going to make a different thread on seperatism to discuss the human emotion and behaviour behind it.
I think it is much needed.

 

[ezsasa]

If you don't go after the Church, the insurgency will continue for another 100 years.

It's not a complex issue.

Indians have a way of complicating things to hide their own cowardice.

and I am telling you, end the rant.

 

[Vinash]

and I am telling you, end the rant.

I will. Losing soldiers every few days doesn't affect me personally.

 

[ezsasa]

@ezsasa going to make a different thread on seperatism to discuss the human emotion and behaviour behind it.
I think it is much needed.

let the tempers cool down a bit.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Notice the coffins and the symbols!

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Most of Naga are Christians.. That's the way they are buried..

 

[Vinash]

Most of Naga are Christians.. That's the way they are buried..

You should listen to the speeches that are given in Naga Churches.

This is my last post in this particular thread. Hindus are hopeless.

 

[tomthounaojam]

Alright, folks time has come to cool down a bit and keep the thread relevant otherwise it will continue forever. I thank those who agreed and those who have not with my views, at least we shared our opinion but let keep the thread relevant.
..................................
SF who got killed during the unfortunate incident.

 

[FalconZero]

Anyway what is the moral and right course of action moving forward?
Workers who were killed need to be compensated to the fullest but what about the ones who attacked the camp?

Since there was no human loss in those attacks on army camp, maybe it's better that government let it slide, they will let is slide because politicians have already sharted their pants, can't blame them they have to win seats, democracy blah blah.

I just hope it doesn't let us in making some serious comprises related to security while ensuring that whatever intel related issues were should be sorted. I don't want any armed member to be convicted, doesn't seem like it was problem from their side, you give them target they execute. Who gave them target? Maybe intel guys whoever they were we will not know probably so internally it will be handled.

For now, to cool down, compensation should be announced and maybe do some jumlebaazi bout justice blah blah. Also, maybe mokoman's idea is not bad at all, let opposition tame the anger (I don't trust mumtaj but maybe for once they can be of some service to the country through their nonsense).

 

[musahary]

Full blunder

Nagaland Simmers with Anger Over Civilian Killings, Shah Tries to Cool Tempers - News18

Chief Minister Neiphiu Rio demanded repeal of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) at a poignant funeral service for the 14 civilians.

www.news18.com

Nagaland Firing LIVE Updates: The Mon district police on Monday filed suo moto FIR against 21 paramilitary forces, calling the killings “murder" by the forces. The cops have said that the unit didn’t ask for a police guide for operations and the “intention was to murder". The funeral service of the 14 civilians were held on Monday morning.

Meanwhile, Nagaland Chief Minister Neiphiu Rio will make a visit to Mon district today, two days after 13 civilians were shot dead by security forces after an operation went awry. The Nagaland government on Sunday also announced an ex-gratia of Rs 5 lakh each to the families of the deceased.

At least 13 civilians and an Assam Rifles trooper were killed and 14 others injured in a series of violent clashes in Nagaland’s Mon district after an army operation to target Naga insurgents went wrong late on Saturday, officials said. The death toll of civilians rose to 14 after one more was gunned down by the forces after villagers staged a protest against the killings and a 24-year-old jawan from Uttarakhand lost his life during the clash.

The leaders of various Naga organisations, including Konyak Hoho and Oting Village Students’ Union (OVSU), claimed that eight coal miners were returning from Tiru coal mining area in a pick-up van when they were targeted.

Here are the live updates:

- The funeral service of the 14 civilians were held on Monday morning. The death toll of civilians rose to 14 after one more was gunned down by the forces after villagers staged a protest against the killings and a 24-year-old jawan from Uttarakhand lost his life during the clash.

- The Mon district police on Monday filed suo moto FIR against 21 paramilitary forces, calling the killings “murder" by the forces. The cops have said that the unit didn’t ask for a police guide for operations and the “intention was to murder".


- The state government also decided to set up a high-level Special Investigation Team (SIT) led by an IGP level officer to probe the incident that took place on Saturday evening, according to an official statement.


- The state government has condemned the incident in Oting village area of Mon district that resulted in the death of 13 civilians, Nagaland Chief Secretary J Alam said in the statement.

- He said an ex-gratia of Rs 5 lakh will be paid to the next of kin of the 13 deceased while the state government will bear the cost of medical treatment of the injured persons.

- Helicopters have pressed into service for emergency relief operation, four airlifted to Dimapur for further medical treatment.

- Hornbill Festival and other cultural activities at Naga Heritage Village, Kisama have been suspended for Monday.

- Thirteen civilians were killed and 11 others injured by security forces in two consecutive incidents of firing, the first of which was possibly a case of mistaken identity.

- Senior minister P Paiwang Konyak led a team of officers including the director-general of police reached Oting village to monitor the situation, Alam said.

- He said two state government helicopters were pressed into service for emergency relief operations and four injured persons were airlifted from Mon to Dimapur for further medical treatment.

- Health and Family Welfare Minister S Pangyu Phom also visited the injured at the Referral Hospital, Dimapur. Deputy Chief Minister Y Patton who was in New Delhi rushed back and went to Mon directly from Guwahati, Alam said.

- Chief Minister Neiphiu Rio will be visiting Mon on Monday morning accompanied by his cabinet colleagues and senior government officers to take an on the spot assessment of the situation and pay respect to the deceased, he said.

- Rio will interact with state government functionaries and civil society organisation leaders in Mon.

- The state government once again assures people that no stone will be left unturned to ensure that justice prevails and appropriate actions as per the law of the land are taken, said Alam.

- Meanwhile, The NSCN(IM) which is holding peace talks with the Centre on the Naga political issue, condemned the killing of civilians by security forces and said it is a “Black day" for the Naga people.

- Such a barbaric act of killing innocent people is against humanity and those responsible for such heinous acts should be brought to justice, it said.

 

[retribution]

No but he is right. Taxi drivers call them freedom fighters. Mizoram and Nagaland still have high levels of insurgency sadly. Other NE states have more or less calmed down due to various deals struck between local tribal clans and government. Mizoram is especially a hot mess, these guys break alliances all the time with government entities and amongst themselves too and keep on fighting. They don't care about country or even state, they only care about their tribes.

This has been true since well forever.

you confused manipur for mizoram . mizoram is perhaps the most peaceful state in the north east with regards to insurgency .

 

[Photon]

A distinction needs to be made between Christians and Church.

I know plenty of patriotic Christians myself who'll die for the country. I also know that the Indian Church doesn't give a fuck about India and it'll gladly help CIA or any other entity to cause chaos in India.

Remember the "Palghar" incident where 2 Hindu Sadhus were lynched to death? The local Church provided legal help to the lynchers.

I'm from the South btw i.e Andhra. Don't play the regional victim card here.

It's not regional victim card it's a sad truth ignorance of central government in other parts of India is much higher than you think..not only BJP all the parties in came in power in last 75 years..

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Alright, folks time has come to cool down a bit and keep the thread relevant otherwise it will continue forever. I thank those who agreed and those who have not with my views, at least we shared our opinion but let keep the thread relevant.
..................................
SF who got killed during the unfortunate incident.

These 21 PARA SF soldiers are still using AKs, hope that is an old pic

 

[Vinash]

Full blunder

Nagaland Simmers with Anger Over Civilian Killings, Shah Tries to Cool Tempers - News18

Chief Minister Neiphiu Rio demanded repeal of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) at a poignant funeral service for the 14 civilians.

www.news18.com

Nagaland Firing LIVE Updates: The Mon district police on Monday filed suo moto FIR against 21 paramilitary forces, calling the killings “murder" by the forces. The cops have said that the unit didn’t ask for a police guide for operations and the “intention was to murder". The funeral service of the 14 civilians were held on Monday morning.

Meanwhile, Nagaland Chief Minister Neiphiu Rio will make a visit to Mon district today, two days after 13 civilians were shot dead by security forces after an operation went awry. The Nagaland government on Sunday also announced an ex-gratia of Rs 5 lakh each to the families of the deceased.

At least 13 civilians and an Assam Rifles trooper were killed and 14 others injured in a series of violent clashes in Nagaland’s Mon district after an army operation to target Naga insurgents went wrong late on Saturday, officials said. The death toll of civilians rose to 14 after one more was gunned down by the forces after villagers staged a protest against the killings and a 24-year-old jawan from Uttarakhand lost his life during the clash.

The leaders of various Naga organisations, including Konyak Hoho and Oting Village Students’ Union (OVSU), claimed that eight coal miners were returning from Tiru coal mining area in a pick-up van when they were targeted.

Here are the live updates:

- The funeral service of the 14 civilians were held on Monday morning. The death toll of civilians rose to 14 after one more was gunned down by the forces after villagers staged a protest against the killings and a 24-year-old jawan from Uttarakhand lost his life during the clash.

- The Mon district police on Monday filed suo moto FIR against 21 paramilitary forces, calling the killings “murder" by the forces. The cops have said that the unit didn’t ask for a police guide for operations and the “intention was to murder".


- The state government also decided to set up a high-level Special Investigation Team (SIT) led by an IGP level officer to probe the incident that took place on Saturday evening, according to an official statement.


- The state government has condemned the incident in Oting village area of Mon district that resulted in the death of 13 civilians, Nagaland Chief Secretary J Alam said in the statement.

- He said an ex-gratia of Rs 5 lakh will be paid to the next of kin of the 13 deceased while the state government will bear the cost of medical treatment of the injured persons.

- Helicopters have pressed into service for emergency relief operation, four airlifted to Dimapur for further medical treatment.

- Hornbill Festival and other cultural activities at Naga Heritage Village, Kisama have been suspended for Monday.

- Thirteen civilians were killed and 11 others injured by security forces in two consecutive incidents of firing, the first of which was possibly a case of mistaken identity.

- Senior minister P Paiwang Konyak led a team of officers including the director-general of police reached Oting village to monitor the situation, Alam said.

- He said two state government helicopters were pressed into service for emergency relief operations and four injured persons were airlifted from Mon to Dimapur for further medical treatment.

- Health and Family Welfare Minister S Pangyu Phom also visited the injured at the Referral Hospital, Dimapur. Deputy Chief Minister Y Patton who was in New Delhi rushed back and went to Mon directly from Guwahati, Alam said.

- Chief Minister Neiphiu Rio will be visiting Mon on Monday morning accompanied by his cabinet colleagues and senior government officers to take an on the spot assessment of the situation and pay respect to the deceased, he said.

- Rio will interact with state government functionaries and civil society organisation leaders in Mon.

- The state government once again assures people that no stone will be left unturned to ensure that justice prevails and appropriate actions as per the law of the land are taken, said Alam.

- Meanwhile, The NSCN(IM) which is holding peace talks with the Centre on the Naga political issue, condemned the killing of civilians by security forces and said it is a “Black day" for the Naga people.

- Such a barbaric act of killing innocent people is against humanity and those responsible for such heinous acts should be brought to justice, it said.

Don't lie about 13 civilians!

It was 6 who died in the hands of SF while another 7 were killed when the mob tried to lynch the security forces.