Nirbhay Cruise Missile Development

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Can you please provide a link for this claim.

http://www.mtcr.info/english/MTCR_Annex_Handbook_ENG.pdf
Number of MCTR Technologies produced by the following nations out of total 94 technologies:

India : 81
Pakistan : 39
China : 92
Iran: 21
Israel: 74
Turkey: 4
USA:94
UK:94
Russia:94
France: 93
Japan: 93
Saudi Arabia:0
North Korea:25
South Africa : 34
South Korea: 42
Vietnam: 0


Areas India is lagging in:
1. Propellants (Majority)
2. Space based guidance technology
3. Nuclear Effects Protection materials i.e against EMP etc.
4. Stealth

But India is way ahead of mullahs who make their missiles operational just firing for just 22 kilometres range and declare themselves ahead of India.
For example turbofan,

http://mtcr.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MTCR_Annex_Handbook_ENG.pdf

India is listed for global turbofan production which are used in cruise missiles. Pak isn't. End of the story.:D
 

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i dont think so becoz its Indian army regular routine to hind their long range weapon becoz they cut down agni 5 range to 5000 km and its actual range was close to 8000-10000 and its a 3 stage missile,and about nirbahy the laser gyaro have more accurate then coventional ,so if they reporting there was a fault in gyro its not believable...DRDO and army always use this trick to save this kind of projects from international monitoring just like Russian kh55 and r172 VLAAM
 

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Ghanta time and cash. Stop rotating around Pakistan. Pakistan is done. We have to build our doctrine around China. And they have a defence budget thrice the amount we have and they don't waste a single minute of time.

Y-20, J-20, Z-10,T-99, marine S&R plane. All of these are completed way faster than their estimates. Their drone programmes are way ahead of ours Their artillery and rocket regiments are bigger and technically advanced than ours. They are building Corvettes like there is no tomorrow. We don't have an A-SAT weapon. And I don want to comment about their missile programme. They reverse engineered the s-300 and made hq-9s like a fucking rat breeds it's offsprings and they have copied French SAMs. They are making money over their copied machinery.

We need to shun this "time and money concept". These guys need to be held by a noose around their necks and made to work.

The only area they are lagging is the development of engines for their fighter planes.
Well I was not comparing to Pakistan, China is taking a different approach they are building air frame for their stealth with most of the tech they already have and they will be upgrading them to 5 gen as their sub system programs run parallel. India too learnt their lesson after then ALH Druv disaster that not to go with too many new tech for e.g. the ARES system which ran for 10 min. India will also take the same Chinese route in this case of 5th Gen.

We have 5th gen program too like china, we have tank program too the only place where china is venturing ahead is with their transport plane and just because they have a prototype does not mean all the sub system are made in china or they have mastered the tech.

Our Artillery and rocket regiments are also catching up, Their Navy is the one I was worried about too but bare in mind that our policy marker are also watching china that's why you see sudden increase of interest in Indian Navy.

A-SAT tech is available, but the test will bring unwanted attention, We have radars that can monitor a satellite and a missile that can hit it. All that is required is system integration and testing.

Well look at china economy and look at ours, they have more and better testing facility then we do, they have more engineer and scientist then we do and their programs are much better funded.

At the end of the day we are not in any kind of cold war, China is an responsible nation and we can do more damage to their economy then they can do to ours, just by declaring a war their shipping insurance will go high and the so called competitive prices of their product will take a hit. Indian shipping insurance will also go high but then how much India is know as export oriented economy ?
 
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http://www.mtcr.info/english/MTCR_Annex_Handbook_ENG.pdf
Number of MCTR Technologies produced by the following nations out of total 94 technologies:

India : 81
Pakistan : 39
China : 92
Iran: 21
Israel: 74
Turkey: 4
USA:94
UK:94
Russia:94
France: 93
Japan: 93
Saudi Arabia:0
North Korea:25
South Africa : 34
South Korea: 42
Vietnam: 0


Areas India is lagging in:
1. Propellants (Majority)
2. Space based guidance technology
3. Nuclear Effects Protection materials i.e against EMP etc.
4. Stealth

But India is way ahead of mullahs who make their missiles operational just firing for just 22 kilometres range and declare themselves ahead of India.
For example turbofan,

http://mtcr.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MTCR_Annex_Handbook_ENG.pdf

India is listed for global turbofan production which are used in cruise missiles. Pak isn't. End of the story.:D

This must be put on porki thread to expose their bluff.

They are not self sufficient to have IRBM and they have 3k -km missile without any reasearch. Everything they bought from China.
 

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Well I was not comparing to Pakistan, China is taking a different approach they are building air frame for their stealth with most of the tech they already have and they will be upgrading them to 5 gen as their sub system programs run parallel. India too learnt their lesson after then ALH Druv disaster that not to go with too many new tech for e.g. the ARES system which ran for 10 min. India will also take the same Chinese route in this case of 5th Gen.

We have 5th gen program too like china, we have tank program too the only place where china is venturing ahead is with their transport plane and just because they have a prototype does not mean all the sub system are made in china or they have mastered the tech.

Our Artillery and rocket regiments are also catching up, Their Navy is the one I was worried about too but bare in mind that our policy marker are also watching china that's why you see sudden increase of interest in Indian Navy.

A-SAT tech is available, but the test will bring unwanted attention, We have radars that can monitor a satellite and a missile that can hit it. All that is required is system integration and testing.

Well look at china economy and look at ours, they have more and better testing facility then we do, they have more engineer and scientist then we do and their programs are much better funded.

At the end of the day we are not in any kind of cold war, China is an responsible nation and we can do more damage to their economy then they can do to ours, just by declaring a war their shipping insurance will go high and the so called competitive prices of their product will take a hit. Indian shipping insurance will also go high but then how much India is know as export oriented economy ?
I wasn't stating about the possibility of a war between china. My comment is about the lame duck excuses our premier defense laboratories give when they don't get things right. It's about the spirit, urgency and discipline that I'm talking about. We can't do things on our own and neither we don't copy like them. We all denigrate chinese manufacturing and their equipment but that mass level of copy-production has now made them the 3rd largest weapons exporter. Their equipment might be inferior but they have taken the initial steps and now they have a worldwide name and market to sell.

And I'm not even saying that we have to become and exporter. We have to become self reliant and at least 80% indigenous when it comes to producing defense equipment.

India will also take the same Chinese route in this case of 5th Gen.
I'm really skeptical about this. Look how we are struggling with Tejas and AMCA is really a long way ahead.
we have tank program too the only place where china is venturing ahead is with their transport plane and just because they have a prototype does not mean all the sub system are made in china or they have mastered the tech.
We have a tank program that even our own armed forces doesn't want. And regarding the transport plane, they have flown a bird that is equal to C-17 which we can only dream of. This mindset needs to go away.

Our surface combat vessels are really capable, but our submarine fleet is really small. Of course, some of the chinese submarine fleet is old but still we don't have the numerical edge. Though we have P8-I, it is only a defensive move.

I guess integrating and testing an A-SAT missile is not a child's play. You must take note that I'm not favoring the chinese or anything. I absolutely respect our forces who always fight with what ever that is being given to them. They never complained nor they backed out. It is the incompetent lot that is sitting in the DRDO and its subsidiaries drawing monthly salaries and enjoying LTCs, festival bonuses and yet they take no insult in failing over and over. Strict KRAs must be imposed and they must be made to stand on their heels to get the work done.
 

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“I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.”
Thomas A. Edison


Stop being drama queens.
Not disagreeing with the gist of your post, but the quote by Edison ought to be seen in the correct perspective.

Edison was no genius when it came to inventions. He was a good businessman and a loudmouth. Here is why: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla

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I wasn't stating about the possibility of a war between china. My comment is about the lame duck excuses our premier defense laboratories give when they don't get things right. It's about the spirit, urgency and discipline that I'm talking about. We can't do things on our own and neither we don't copy like them. We all denigrate chinese manufacturing and their equipment but that mass level of copy-production has now made them the 3rd largest weapons exporter. Their equipment might be inferior but they have taken the initial steps and now they have a worldwide name and market to sell.

And I'm not even saying that we have to become and exporter. We have to become self reliant and at least 80% indigenous when it comes to producing defense equipment.


I'm really skeptical about this. Look how we are struggling with Tejas and AMCA is really a long way ahead.

We have a tank program that even our own armed forces doesn't want. And regarding the transport plane, they have flown a bird that is equal to C-17 which we can only dream of. This mindset needs to go away.

Our surface combat vessels are really capable, but our submarine fleet is really small. Of course, some of the chinese submarine fleet is old but still we don't have the numerical edge. Though we have P8-I, it is only a defensive move.

I guess integrating and testing an A-SAT missile is not a child's play. You must take note that I'm not favoring the chinese or anything. I absolutely respect our forces who always fight with what ever that is being given to them. They never complained nor they backed out. It is the incompetent lot that is sitting in the DRDO and its subsidiaries drawing monthly salaries and enjoying LTCs, festival bonuses and yet they take no insult in failing over and over. Strict KRAs must be imposed and they must be made to stand on their heels to get the work done.
well one word would be if you want DRDO to be par with other research agency then fund them properly and provide the better infra. we want the result like every other R&D institute but won't fund them the same way.

Better infra and better salary gets you what you want.
 

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well one word would be if you want DRDO to be par with other research agency then fund them properly and provide the better infra. we want the result like every other R&D institute but won't fund them the same way.

Better infra and better salary gets you what you want.
Well... They should be expressing their displeasure right. Why aren't they? Hundreds of crores and yet we complain about R&D. They wouldn't have moved to missile testing with out proper R&D right. What about getting assistance from outside?
 

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Well... They should be expressing their displeasure right. Why aren't they? Hundreds of crores and yet we complain about R&D. They wouldn't have moved to missile testing with out proper R&D right. What about getting assistance from outside?
We are already getting assistance from outside, who said we aren't ? which country turbofan are we using ? at-least few stuff we need to produce ourself if we use everything from outside then what's the point of making it.

Well those hundreds of crores are dedicated to hundreds of projects, you got to see how much money was allocated to one project and what was achived.

Well in India things work differently I can't tell you what was wrong with the missile launch as multiple department work on it can be any one of them, but as long as they are able to find the exact fault it's worth it or more failure we have to see in future.
 

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Well... They should be expressing their displeasure right. Why aren't they? Hundreds of crores and yet we complain about R&D. They wouldn't have moved to missile testing with out proper R&D right. What about getting assistance from outside?
DRDO gets barely 2% of defence budget.

What they are delivering in that budget isn't less wonderful for me.
 

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http://idrw.org/after-spending-100-...idering-pulling-the-plugs-on-nirbhay-project/

Once a pride for Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), India’s own cruise missile project Nirbhay is on the verge of closure.A highly placed source told ‘The Express’ that the project is likely to be closed as the missile has failed to deliver desired results even 12 years after the project was launched. A review of the project will be conducted shortly.
 

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http://idrw.org/after-spending-100-...idering-pulling-the-plugs-on-nirbhay-project/

Once a pride for Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), India’s own cruise missile project Nirbhay is on the verge of closure.A highly placed source told ‘The Express’ that the project is likely to be closed as the missile has failed to deliver desired results even 12 years after the project was launched. A review of the project will be conducted shortly.
Source is IDRW! :lol:

30 characters shit.
 

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http://idrw.org/after-spending-100-...idering-pulling-the-plugs-on-nirbhay-project/

Once a pride for Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), India’s own cruise missile project Nirbhay is on the verge of closure.A highly placed source told ‘The Express’ that the project is likely to be closed as the missile has failed to deliver desired results even 12 years after the project was launched. A review of the project will be conducted shortly.
The real problem is underfunding of indigenous projects and inflated goals.
 

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