MRCA News & Dicussions (IV)

[Daredevil]

Amazing pics of Eurofighter. A nice pic of near vertical take-off of Eurofighter.

 

[Agantrope]

Amazing pics of Eurofighter. A nice pic of near vertical take-off of Eurofighter.

Any gurus please explain why it is using the military thrust to take off. Does all the fighter aircraft uses the military thrust to take off normally from a air-strip

 

[nrj]

Eurofighter Typhoon crashed: Saudi Trainee pilot dead

Madrid, Spain (CNN) -- A Saudi army lieutenant colonel died Tuesday during a training flight at a Spanish air base, the Spanish Defence Ministry said.

The incident happened around 9:30 a.m. (3:30 a.m. ET) during a training flight aboard a Eurofighter Typhoon jet. A few minutes after takeoff, the plane hit the ground for unknown reasons, the Defense Ministry said.

A Spanish pilot who was also on board ejected before the plane hit the ground, the ministry said.

A special committee has been sent to the Moron Air Base in Seville to investigate, the Defense Ministry said.

The Saudi pilot was at Moron to sign an agreement on Spanish-Saudi cooperation, which includes training for Saudi pilots on the Eurofighter, the ministry said.

Saudi Arabia is one of the customers for the Eurofighter, which is manufactured by an international consortium of Britain's BAE Systems, the German and Spanish arms of EADS, and Italy's Alenia Aeronautica.

Source

 

[Daredevil]

Any gurus please explain why it is using the military thrust to take off. Does all the fighter aircraft uses the military thrust to take off normally from a air-strip

This kind of take-off is useful when you have short make-shift runways during war time. May be this demonstration is part of that.

 

[nrj]

Eurofighter Typhoon crashed: Saudi Trainee pilot dead

Saudi Arabia sent two pilots to Spain for training following an agreement signed between Saudi Ministry of Defense and Aviation and Spain. The training program was part of a training project on the use of the Eurofighter EF-2000, made jointly by Spain, the UK, Italy and Germany.

The cause of the crash was not immediately known.

The crash occurred at around 9:30 a.m. local time during a training flight aboard one of the Eurofighter Typhoon jets.

A few minutes after takeoff, the plane hit the ground for unknown reasons, said the ministry statement.

Saudi Arabia and Spain have walked an extra mile in their relationship with the launch of a Saudi pilot-training project and the announcement of the opening of an office of EADS-Casa, the Spanish aircraft manufacturer, in Jeddah after the summer holidays.

The Kingdom needs at least 200 pilots and engineers to maintain and operate its fleet of 72 Eurofighters, which it purchased for more than five billion euros.

Source

Very sad news. IAF can worry for their pilots....

 

[nrj]

The unfortunate EFT was in speed of some 200-300 Km/hr at the moment of crash. It was just some time after take-off. Maybe some maneuvering attempt gone bad I guess.

RIP, the colonel saudi pilot.

This can be bad for EFT's bid in IAF's MMRCA.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Some Pics Of Rafale..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

The unfortunate EFT was in speed of some 200-300 Km/hr at the moment of crash. It was just some time after take-off. Maybe some maneuvering attempt gone bad I guess.

RIP, the colonel saudi pilot.

This can be bad for EFT's bid in IAF's MMRCA.

According to Spanish Media,it seems that the Eurofighter crashed suffered some technicals problems during the take off when it had reached a velocity of 200-300 km/h and after cross the point of "no return",colliding even against the runway.The split second delay before the front seat comes out made the difference, The rest,is already known..

RIP to the Pilot!

 

[Godless-Kafir]

French Rafael is very much better than the Euro fighter typhoon. I heard it has scored far to many points against the typhoon, if only the Dassult is willing to open up as much as EADS in ToT and partnership.

Rafael is definitely the best bet.

 

[nrj]

According to Spanish Media,it seems that the Eurofighter crashed suffered some technicals problems during the take off when it had reached a velocity of 200-300 km/h and after cross the point of "no return",colliding even against the runway.The split second delay before the front seat comes out made the difference, The rest,is already known..

RIP to the Pilot!

If its indeed the technical problem then I really begin to worry. Could be engine failure or some fly-by-wire hiccup? EFT will make it name as accident-prone if this continues. I believe this parameter exists in IAF's FET.

The crash-prone Eurofighter

 

[Armand2REP]

What bothers me about that crash, is that the IP bailed before he got the trainee out. It is his job to protect his life first.

 

[Armand2REP]

If its indeed the technical problem then I really begin to worry. Could be engine failure or some fly-by-wire hiccup? EFT will make it name as accident-prone if this continues. I believe this parameter exists in IAF's FET.

The crash-prone Eurofighter

It probably has something to do with the software, there have been a dozen incidents over the years where Eurofighter suddenly drops in altitude. Some of them are at high altitude, some are landing incidents, this one was not so fortunate to survive.

 

[StealthSniper]

RIP to the pilot who died. I'm sure they will find out what the problem is (if any) and they will rectify it and fix it.

 

[Daredevil]

Its better to wait for the report before blaming the pilot or the fighter. RIP to the pilot.

 

[Armand2REP]

I'm sure they will find out what the problem is (if any) and they will rectify it and fix it.

They have been trying to fix the altitude malfunction for 10 years, it appears no luck yet.

 

[Param]

How many Rafales have crashed till date?

 

[Armand2REP]

Two incidents, both pilot error.

 

[mayfair]

How many Rafales have crashed till date?

"On 6 December 2007 a French Air Force twin-seat aircraft with a single occupant, on a training flight from the Saint-Dizier base, crashed in an uninhabited part of the Neuvic commune in the Correze area, with the loss of its pilot. " - 1

"On 24 September 2009 two French Navy Rafales collided in mid-air off Perpignan during exercises on the Charles de Gaulle." -2

All fighters crash.

Armand, there have been host of problems reported for Rafale- from the landing gear to avionics to structural stability. Let's not get into a pissing contest here.

 

[luckyy]

India plays down reports of MMRCA decision

The official spokesman of the Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has downplayed media reports that France's Dassault Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon have emerged as favourites to win India's Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) contest.

Speaking to Jane's on 10 August, Sitanshu Kar said no decisions have been made about the programme following the MoD's receipt of a comprehensive trial report on the six rival fighters competing for the INR420 billion (USD9.1 billion) contract.

Some media outlets in India had earlier reported that the results of the MMRCA technical evaluations, which concluded in mid-2010, had prompted the Indian Air Force (IAF) to recommend to the MoD that the shortlist be narrowed down to just two aircraft: the Rafale and Typhoon.

The other platforms competing for the 126-aircraft tender are Boeing's F/A-18E/F, Lockheed Martin's F-16IN, the Russian United Aircraft Corporation's MiG-35 and Saab's JAS 39 Gripen NG.

 

[Armand2REP]

Armand, there have been host of problems reported for Rafale- from the landing gear to avionics to structural stability. Let's not get into a pissing contest here.

No Rafale have been lost to technical problems, nor are its problems as vast the Eurofighter. No need to get into a pissing contest when there is no contest.