MMRCA news and discussions.

[Dark Sorrow]

ppgj,
Both article state that HAL RD-33 series 3 while mig-35 uses RD-33MK

 

[p2prada]

Please don't compare the mig with SH or SV or EF. In the default configuration mig can't take on any of above specified aircraft in 1 to 1 head on combat, SH or SV or EF simply outclass the migs.
A good EW suite is one of the most important system for a modern multi-role combat aircraft. At present mig lacks one while SH or SV or EF possess one of the best EW suite.

EW mainly protects the fighter from BVR and SAMs. Jamming does not help SH, SV, Rafale or EFT when a Mig-29 is merging. In a 1 on 1, electronics are pretty much useless. Everything depends on the pilot and the machine. Please don't compare the Mig-35 with any other fighter in the world today when it comes to a dog fight. A Mig-29/35 is a standard all other fighters try to achieve when it comes to dog fights.

Now coming to metallurgy part, you are wrong about russian metallurgy claim. The truth is russian metallury sucks. Can you tell me why russians use 125 mm tank gun and even with larger diameter their shell produce less pressure. Can you also explain why russian artillery have a less rate of fire, range and smaller barrel life compaired to western system. The fact is americans are leaders in metallurgy followed by germans and finally sweden. This is the only reason why we don't buy artillery pieces from russia but from sweden. We are also intrested in the their(swedish) archer artillery system.

Wrong. Artillery and Ballistics technology with the Russians is not on par with the Europeans. But, Russian aeronautics cannot be compared to Sweden or Germany. Russia, or should I say Soviet Union, has spent more than 10 times the amount on Aeronautics compared to Germany and Sweden.

Russian artillery units having a lesser rate of fire....etc etc has nothing to do with their aerospace industry.

 

[ppgj]

ppgj,
Both article state that HAL RD-33 series 3 while mig-35 uses RD-33MK

modifying it to mk may not be a huge issue 'cos india will need them for naval mig-29k in any case.
wiki as per the link says-
quote-In the first stage HAL is expected to make 120 engines, which would cost less than those directly bought from Russia. This deal would help HAL master the assembly of next generation jet engines, including RD-33MK (Sea Wasp) engines for deck based MiG-29K naval fighters being acquired under the Gorshkov aircraft carrier deal. It will also help develop thrust-vectoring engines for the MiG-35 fighters, which Russia is fielding for US $12 billion Indian tender for 126 advanced combat jets-unquote.

 

[p2prada]

I read somewhere that our Mig-29ks will be getting the TVC version(RD-33MK) pretty soon. HAL will manufacture the new engines too.

 

[ppgj]

I read somewhere that our Mig-29ks will be getting the TVC version(RD-33MK) pretty soon. HAL will manufacture the new engines too.

tvc i think is an option.whether india opts for it or not is not known.but RD-33mk powers it.hal will manufacture RD-33 series 3 for existing mig-29s in the coming upgrade.but moving from series 3 to mk may not be a huge issue.

 

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Aerospace major Lockheed begins F-16 trials for Indian Air Force
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BANGALORE: US aerospace major Lockheed Martin on Monday began flying its three fighter F-16s here for trials of the medium multi-role combat aircraft ( MMRC) that the Indian Air Force (IAF) wants to buy, to replace its ageing MiG-21 fleet.

"The field trials will be conducted in Bangalore, Jaisalmer and Leh till Sep 18 in different conditions. We had the training phase from Sep 3-5 in preparation for the trials," Lockheed's international communications manager John Giese said.

The trials near Jaisalmer in Rajasthan and Leh in Jammu and Kashmir next week will be to test the fighters in hot weather conditions and in high-altitude mountain ranges.

The three F-16s, which are in service with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Air Force and stationed at Dubai air base, flew into Bangalore on Sep 2, with Lockheed test pilots, US Air Force pilots and a team of engineers and technicians, for the 12-day trials.

"The fighters landed two days behind schedule due to inclement weather and operational reasons. The training phase included familiarising the IAF's evaluation teams with the aircraft's capabilities and technologies, especially its latest electronic warfare and navigational aids," Giese said.

During the training phase, the fighters were stationed at the state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) airport on the outskirts of the city. Demonstration of the aircraft, ability of its various systems and the glass cockpit were held at the IAF's Aircraft Systems & Training Establishment (ASTE) complex, which is adjacent to the HAL airstrip.

"As part of the trial preparation, all the three F-16s took to skies twice a day on hour-long sorties despite cloudy weather and intermittent rains Sep 3-5. They flew mostly in south-westerly direction towards Mysore," a senior air traffic control (ATC) official said on Sunday.

IAF's test pilots flew with Lockheed's test pilots in the tandem twin-seater for a firsthand 'feel' of the aircraft and its ability to manoeuvre for combat operations.

Though the advanced fourth generation F-16s participating in the trials are not 'Super Viper', they are closest to the new version the company will offer to the IAF if it wins the estimated $10-billion order for the 126 planes.

"The F-16IN Super Viper will be tailor-made to meet the requirements of the IAF and will be the ultimate fourth generation fighter," Giese claimed.

According to Michael R. Griswold, Lockheed director, the F-16s, with fifth generation capabilities, will demonstrate to the IAF their striking power, speed, accuracy and its awesome 360-degree manoeuvres, with its sophisticated active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.

The other five aircraft in the fray for the order are Boeing's F/A-181N Super Hornet, the Dassault Rafale, the Saab Gripen, the Russian MiG-35 and the European consortium EADS Eurofighter Typhoon.

As per the global tender floated last year, the winning bidder will have to deliver 18 aircrafts in fly-away condition, while the remaining 108 will be manufactured by HAL under a technology transfer deal.

The F-16 trials are taking place three weeks after Boeing flew in its two Super Hornets Aug 14 and conducted trials for about 10 days from Aug 17 in Bangalore, Jaisalmer and Leh.

"Initially, the IAF pilots will co-pilot the aircraft, taking controls mid-air after familiarizing themselves with the systems and the advanced navigation aids. In the subsequent trials, the IAF pilots will take command of the aircraft for evaluating its various parameters, including the use of weapons," a Lockheed official said.

The IAF has formed twin teams of two test pilots each for the trials, which will be conducted in three stages: pilot familiarzsation, field trials and weapons systems trials. The third stage will be conducted in the country of manufacture.

The technical evaluation was completed early this year after the six manufacturers responded to the IAF's Request for Proposal (RFP) in August 2007.

Aerospace major Lockheed begins F-16 trials for Indian Air Force - India - NEWS - The Times of India

 

[ajay_ijn]

"The fighters landed two days behind schedule due to inclement weather and operational reasons. The training phase included familiarising the IAF's evaluation teams with the aircraft's capabilities and technologies, especially its latest electronic warfare and navigational aids," Giese said.

how would evaluate aircrafts EW systems? would they try and jam Indian Radars with that?

 

[fulcrum]

EW mainly protects the fighter from BVR and SAMs. Jamming does not help SH, SV, Rafale or EFT when a Mig-29 is merging. In a 1 on 1, electronics are pretty much useless. Everything depends on the pilot and the machine. Please don't compare the Mig-35 with any other fighter in the world today when it comes to a dog fight. A Mig-29/35 is a standard all other fighters try to achieve when it comes to dog fights.

Couldn't agree more. When it comes to the actual Dogfights, the Fulcrum takes the lead. Nimble, high instantaneous turn rate, high AoA, high T/W ratio.. a perfect Dogfighting machine.
Old story but.. if you want to know 'bout Mig-29 Dogfighting characteristics, ask the MKI pilots. When the MKIs first arrived, the fighter was put to test against the fulcrum, and guess which one won. MKI only got close to Mig's dogfighting performance when it reached bingo fuel.

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Looks like the yankee loving Nut has been thrown overboard. hehe

 

[ajay_ijn]

EW mainly protects the fighter from BVR and SAMs. Jamming does not help SH, SV, Rafale or EFT when a Mig-29 is merging. In a 1 on 1, electronics are pretty much useless. Everything depends on the pilot and the machine. Please don't compare the Mig-35 with any other fighter in the world today when it comes to a dog fight. A Mig-29/35 is a standard all other fighters try to achieve when it comes to dog fights.

I dunno what does 1 on 1 means but there are IR jamming systems nowadays, plus flares which can still confuse the WVR missile which Mig-29 launches.

 

[John]

the fact is that though the Mig is indeed the best for dogfights it lacks sheer fire power for A2G and A2S roles where the SH outclasses all the others in its sheer weapons flexibility and combat effectivness. SH can deploy the world's most combat proven long range standoff and accurate weapons. not to mention all those weapons are much more cost effective than their european counterparts. Taking in account our nuke neighbors and the sheer large number of possible targets in the event of a war with them, SH is the ideal option. Mki is good enough to outclass any medium term threats it could face and we indeed will have more than 230 by 2014. We seem to look at the MRCA as a prime air superirority aircraft but the fact remains the most multirole aircraft will win. SH remains unparalleled in all forms of aerial combat. And if there haven't been any hickups during trials in India, the SH will impress the most during weapons trials in the US as well because almost all of the US' latest weapons go first on board the F-18 SH.

Aim-120D: 180km+ estimated price: $700k per unit, cheaper and longer range than Meteor.

JDAM/ER: 28km-60km+: $38 to $90K per unit cheaper than French ASSM (50km) : 110K euros per unit.

Paveway 1/2/3: cheaper than Sagem LGBs and PAveway Dualmode guidance bombs also have both gps/laser guidance.

LJDAM: Laser/GPS guided: $48K per unit well French, Russians have no counter part

JSOW A/C, can hit moving targets: 130km: $150K per unit A, C variant can be used against maritime targets $300k, French counter part is Apache missiles: 140km, price per unit: 1.6 million euros and can't hit moving targets.

SLAM missile: 100 km+ : can hit moving and static land/sea targets, commonality with Harpoon.

SLAM-ER: 250km+: can hit moving and static land/sea targets. price per unit = $720K, cheaper than the Storm Shadow: also 250km, price per per unit 800K euros and cant be used on ships.

Harpoon Block 2: 120km+, commonality with SLAM and falls in medium range category good enough to complement the Brahmos. $200K. block 3 under works 2011 induction.

Taurus KEPD: 500km+, deployed on Finnish F-18s and EFs, Rafale cant depoy it, SH can. Price 950K euros.

SDB: 110Km+, can hit many targets in air burst, hardened or moving modes. SH can deploy upto 24 in a single sortie. price per unit is below $30K per unit, ideal for large number of targets, ideal for China centric ops. keeps costs low.

SDB-2: 70km+, induction in 2011.

AAGRM: upgraded HARM missiles, 100km+, can hit shut down radars. $ 250K cheaper than ALARM and longer range than MARTE, Rafale can only deploy HARM, the ARMIGER has been cancelled.

HOPE/HOSBO: only on EF, 160km, not inducted yet.. prices unknown.

CBU-97/105 SFW: can be fitted with LM's WCMD-ER tail kit that puts the range of this weapon which we have ordered at 65km. Single bomb can take out 40 armored targets, we have ordered 510, enough to take on over 20000 tanks.

Rafale, EF, Gripen NG all deploy mostly US weapons and even we buy any one of them we'll have to deal with US for weapons and many of the latest weapons are not yet deployed on the EU aircraft. which means we have to spend more time and money to try and integrate more weapons, which is waste of both time and money, the IAF will certainly look for aircraft that are already gr8 off the shelf and hence we'll have to do little to make them more advanced, SH is coming with new 26000lbs engine which boosts both range and thrust, plus SH's production is way ahead of schedule with only possibility of delivery in 2013. the SV is also not to be under-estimated, it can readily deploy all Israeli weapons in our inventory and more. SH also has more of a future than the mig because atleast the USN operates lots of them and will operate them upto 2040, the Russians want to buy very few mig-35s. the SH has recieved 2 increases in thrust, 3 versions of AESA, new EW suite all in less than 7 years. its going to remain upgraded with Boeing financing its own block 3 to be ready by 2020+ just in time for us to excercise those 74 options in block 3 variants. Going EU means lot of headches too many suppliers and way too may companies involved, the logistical nightmare will follow EF and Gripen. Rafale will have lots of complexity in weapons integration and prices. mig is the worst in terms of multirole abilties. SH all the way. mig will probably make it to the top 3 list but will loose out even to the Gripen which boasts much more roles. competitive price and supercruise.

 

[John]

well on the long run , the SH's life cycle costs will be much lower because Bio-fuel blends are being tested on the SH, soon its fuel costs will drop to much lower than the Rafale or any other aircraft. Brazilians made a piss poor decision besides the French are buying 10-12 Brazilian aircraft in return, carrot and stick crap all the way.

 

[John]

AARGM Scores Another Direct Hit in Successful Test

ATK Scores Another Direct Hit in Successful Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile (AARGM) Test
MINNEAPOLIS, Sept. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Alliant Techsystems (NYSE: ATK), the U.S. Navy and the Italian Air Force successfully launched and scored a direct hit on a simulated enemy air defense target during the final development test (DT) firing of the AGM-88E Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile (AARGM) at Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake on August 7.

"This test firing was picture-perfect. Hardware, software and aircraft systems all worked flawlessly and resulted in a 100 percent successful firing," said Tobin Touchstone, ATK Mission Systems Vice President for Missiles.

The final AARGM DT shot was launched from a U. S. Navy FA-18C Hornet in a scenario designed to test the missile's capabilities to maneuver and perform in a short time-of-flight profile under heavily counter-measured conditions. During missile flight, AARGM successfully detected, identified, and located an enemy air defense unit (ADU) using its anti-radiation-homing (ARH) receiver. Additionally the missile demonstrated its designed ability to minimize collateral damage and friendly fire by navigating clear of pre-planned impact avoidance zones. In the terminal phase, AARGM used its multi-mode sensor suite to overcome advanced target countermeasures, accurately guiding towards and directly hitting the enemy ADU target.

The firing was the eighth and final developmental missile shot in AARGM's System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase.

"With the successful completion of our SDD test program, we move another step closer in making affordable, Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses (DEAD) and strike capability a reality for U.S. and Coalition warfighters," said Jack Cronin, President, ATK Mission Systems. "AARGM's live-fire test performance across many demanding test scenarios has demonstrated this weapon's capability, versatility, and reliability."

ATK participated in the missile firing as a member of the U.S. Navy's Integrated Product Team, led by the Direct and Time Sensitive Strike Program Office (PMA-242). Members from the Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division - China Lake led the final AARGM DT shot. Test team members included Air Test and Evaluation Squadron Three One (VX-31), the National Reconnaissance Office, the Naval Air Systems Command, and the Italian Air Force.

This shot also marked the final firing in a month-long test series using the final missile hardware and software configuration intended for Navy Independent Operational Test and Evaluation (IOT&E) which is planned to commence later this year.

"This final SDD phase test firing was a solid success and a testament to the professionalism of our international, government-industry team. Getting to this point took a concerted effort by a large group of talented professionals all pulling in the same direction," said Capt. Brian Corey, the U.S. Navy's program manager for Direct and Time Sensitive Strike programs (PMA-242). "Our collective efforts have now positioned AARGM for entry into Operational Evaluation."

AARGM is a supersonic, air-launched tactical missile that will be integrated on the FA-18 C/D, FA-18 E/F, EA-18 G and Tornado ECR aircraft. The missile has designed compatibility with the F-35, EA-6B, and U.S. and Allied F-16s. AARGM's advanced multi-sensor system includes a Millimeter Wave (MMW) terminal seeker, advanced Anti-Radiation Homing (ARH) receiver and Global Positioning System/Inertial Navigation System (GPS/INS) capable of rapidly engaging traditional and advanced enemy air defense threats as well as non-radar time-sensitive strike targets. The AARGM system, an upgrade to the U.S. Navy AGM-88 HARM system, is a U.S. and Italian international cooperative major acquisition program with the U.S. Navy as the executive agent. AARGM Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) commenced in December 2008 with delivery of the first production missile to the Navy scheduled January 2010. Once Fleet IOC is established in November 2010, AARGM will be the only tactical extended-range, supersonic, multi-role strike weapon in U.S. and Italian inventory.


F-18SH will be the first to deploy it.

 

[John]

Saudi Arabia Orders IRIS-T Air-to-Air Missile for its Tornado and Typhoon Jets

The missile system house Diehl BGT Defence has won Saudi Arabia as a new export customer for the IRIS-T air-to-air guided missile. Both the Eurofighter Typhoon as well as the Tornado combat aircraft of the Saudi Air Force are to be equipped with IRIS-T missiles.

IRIS-T is a European six-nation program under German supervision and the industrial management of Diehl BGT Defence.

Worldwide IRIS-T is one of the most sophisticated infrared-guided air-to-air missiles. This year 700 missiles are expected to be delivered to the nations of the IRIS-T consortium as well as to international customers. IRIS-T provides the basis for a missile family with additional applications for ground-based air defence and modern submarine armament

 

[natarajan]

as india increased the number of sukhoi(air superiority fighter) i think the chance for both mig-35 and euro has diminished

 

[NSG_Blackcats]

Lockheed begins F-16 trials​

Bangalore: US aerospace major Lockheed Martin Monday began flying its three fighter F-16s here for trials of the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRC) that the Indian Air Force (IAF) wants to buy, to replace its ageing MiG-21 fleet. "The field trials will be conducted in Bangalore, Jaisalmer and Leh till Sep 18 in different conditions. We had the training phase from Sep 3-5 in preparation for the trials," Lockheed's international communications manager John Giese said.

The trials near Jaisalmer in Rajasthan and Leh in Jammu and Kashmir next week will be to test the fighters in hot weather conditions and in high-altitude mountain ranges. The three F-16s, which are in service with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Air Force and stationed at Dubai air base, flew into Bangalore Sep 2, with Lockheed test pilots, US Air Force pilots and a team of engineers and technicians, for the 12-day trials.

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[RPK]

Super Viper aircraft weapons testing in Rajasthan to begin IDRW.ORG

Weapons testing of the F-16 IN Super Viper aircraft for the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) purchase trials of the IAF will be carried out in the deserts near Jaisalmer in Rajasthan.

Michael Griswold, director, advanced development programmes, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company, revealed this to the TNS during an interview here. Orville Prins, Vice-President, business development for India, and Jack Giese, a senior Lockheed Martin (LM) manager, were also present. Officials of the American aeronautics giant, which is the largest supplier of hardware to the US air force, are here in connection with the evaluation by the IAF of the Super Viper, a fourth-generation fighter aircraft from the LM stable.

The IAF had earlier said weapon testing of the six shortlisted bidders would take place in the countries of their origins to avoid legal tangles and unavailability of the infrastructure necessary for carrying out the tests. It could not be immediately confirmed if the LM was the only bidder to have made arrangements for weapon testing in India. The Super Viper team will shift base to Rajasthan toward the end of this month. F/A-18E/F Super Hornet of the Boeing, the Russian MiG 35, the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen, the Eurofighter Typhoon (manufactured by an European consortium) and the French Rafale are the other competitors in the race.

On the presence of F-16 aircraft in the Pakistani air force, Griswold said the aircraft being offered to India had been “tailor made” for the IAF. “The IAF had specified what they were looking for and the aircraft is equipped to meet those requirements”, he said. He said a unique feature of Super Viper is the AESA (active electronically steered array) radar. The radar, apart from tracking enemy targets, will also help the pilot in carrying out low flying missions.

Test pilots of the IAF are now working on simulators at the Aircraft and System Training Establishment (ASTE) here to get familiarised with the Super Viper control system. This will be followed by actual flying of the aircraft by IAF pilots together with the LM test pilots. Three Super Vipers, having tandem seating arrangements, have been flown to Bangalore from UAE for this purpose. “The IAF pilot will sit in the front cockpit and our pilot will handle the rear control. Solo flying by IAF pilots of Super Vipers will take place in the US in early 2010”, Griswold said.

The IAF had earlier placed order with the Lockheed Martin for supplying six C-130J Super Hercules transport aircraft. These aircraft would be given to the IAF in 2011, the officials said. The MMRCA contract for supplying 126 fighter jets to the IAF is worth Rs 42,000 crore (US$ 10.5 billion). It is said to be the single largest defence deal ever in the history of IAF.

 

[John]

as india increased the number of sukhoi(air superiority fighter) i think the chance for both mig-35 and euro has diminished

yup the new 50 MKI purchase will make sure the mig-35 is out. Euro is still in because it can still deploy a lot of precise A2G weapons. Mig-35 was always the worst choice.

 

[John]

Lockheed offers 'exclusive' F-16s to India - India - NEWS - The Times of India

old article but LM is willing to offer 100% TOT for Block IN SV. Plus the fact is the Block 70 has a gr8 radar, can also be fitted with new SABR radars, deploy all known Issy and US weapons, comes with options for MATV, can readily fire weapons like Mica, AS-30L, Popeye, Apache missile, Python, ALARM etc. it seems like a better and cheaper option than the Rafale, EF. Since Falcon production lines are closing in the US, we are bound to get full-tot and complete local production. LM is willing to customize as much as we want.

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[RPK]

Global aviation majors slug it out for $10-billion deal- Airlines / Aviation-Transportation-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

BANGALORE: Bangalore has become the battleground for over $10 billion Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) contract, as global aviation majors
such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, EADS, D'Assault , SAAB and Russia's MiG-35 entered the next phase of technical evaluation being conducted by the officials of the Indian Air Force (IAF).

"IAF will see strike power, accuracy , operation of weapon system, how the airplane maneuvers at 360-degree and how easily can it be maintained. IAF needs additional weapons to be integrated with the aircraft" , said a person familiar with the parameters required by IAF.

Lockheed, which completed the first phase of field trials, started phase two of trials on Monday as part of a month-long process, which includes pilot familiarisation.

The weapons systems trials will take place during January 2010 in US. The competing jets will be put to go through humid conditions of South India (Bangalore ), deserts of Rajasthan (Jaisalmer) and icy Himalayan heights (Leh).

Despite sophisticated technical control systems in these combat aircraft, manual control continues to be a significant factor. "The ability for human brains to make decisions based on emotions has not been developed yet," said Jeffrey A Paulk who is a pilot with Lockheed Martin.

 

[AJSINGH]

The R-27EP is dangerous because it out-ranges AMRAAM, and you probably won't know it's coming before it's too late. Fortunately, only the Russians (and maybe the Ukrainians) currently have this missile.

The R-27AE is dangerous for the same reasons as the R-27EP plus it won't stop homing if you shut down your radar.
The R-77 is nasty. It is superior to the AMRAAM in range and maneuverability (especially sustained maneuverability). The US currently doesn't have a countermeasure fielded against eh R-77,The R-77 is _better_ than the AMRAAM . It has more kinetic energy and less drag due to its short, low drag, wings and its "trellis" tail surfaces which provide better manuverability than conventional fins. This means that the R-77 is more manueverable (and has more energy over its envelope) than the AMRAAM. This, barring suceptability to ECM, probably makes it better in head-on attacks than the AMRAAM. The R-77 is slated for export (as the RVV-AE). Though Vympel has completed the development of the R-77, Russian defense cuts have (so far) stalled production.

And if that wasn't bad enough there's the R-73, which really has no match in the West, suprpassing AAMs like the AIM-9 in all respects. (The AIM-9X, however, will close the gap somwehat on its introduction- after the year 2000.) The R-73, coupled with the HMD targeting system used on the Su-27 and MiG-29 is a very worrying (and potent) visual range weapons system.
Speaking only of "smarts" the R-77 is probably roughly comparable to the AMRAAM. Both will have no problem with ground clutter in most situations. Both will have the same vulnerability to chaff. The R-77's maneuverability will give it an edge against a jinking target, especially if it was a long range shot. The AMRAAM probably has a slight advantage in ECCM, but both missiles are most effectively countered by the same basic techniques (ECM and expendables). The R-77 on the other hand, has a clear advantage in range.
and Novator k-100 with range of 400km and 300km ..known awacs killer..nothing like that exsist in NATO weaponry

It was recently revealed that Russia is testing a new gliding guided bomb, as well as a new laser-guided bomb.



Russia is currently testing a new laser-guided bomb, the KAB-250L (seen here in the foreground), which is similar in appearance and in characteristics to the US GBU-12 Paveway II LGB.
Photo by Miroslav Gyurosi

The UPAB-1500KR ("izdyelye K-070" or "product K-070") is the first Russian gliding bomb. It was based on the KAB-1500KR guided bomb, with folded wings added to achieve a gliding capability. According to Russian sources, the range of UPAB-1500KR is 50-70 km, when dropped from high altitude and at high speed. The target picture is transmitted from a datalink on the bomb and received by the Raduga (Moscow, Russia) APK-8 datalink pod attached to the fuselage of the host aircraft. When the bomb nears its target, the aircrew marks the target, and the bomb is then attacking it independently, at which point it is locked onto the target.
The other new bomb being tested is the KAB-250L ("izdyelye K-045" or "product K-045") laser-guided bomb (LGB), similar in appearance and in characteristics to the US GBU-12 Paveway II LGB. Although there is not much information available on the KAB-250L, the bomb was recently developed by the FGUP State"s Scientific-Production Entity "Region." It has the same seeker as the KAB-500L/KAB-1500L though in a modernized form. The bomb is controlled by front all-moving surfaces, while the tails are fixed. It is designed for export, as well as for domestic use. Testing of these bombs is being conducted by the 929th State's Aviation Test Center in Akhtubinsk, Russia.
speaking about A2G i agree russia has not much to offer but they are developing SDB..with the help of india...there is a reason why we are investing in russian a2a and a2g weapons ...

super cruise is useless technology as of now..in very specific situations can gripen supercruise ..for example at certain altitude ..with certain payload ...even F-22 cant boast of complete super cruise ...dilievery of SH even if it is in 2013 does not help much because the trials will continue for a long time and then political decision has to be taken..negotiations etc etc ...so does not matter if they are offering SH even 2mmorow ..also all these weapons u are saying with SH..will cost more than the russian counterpart ...and IAF wont just buy SH off the shelf ..it will change its configuration according to its needs....also americans JDAMS are not of any use to india because we are investing in Russian GPS system ..and american JDAMS work with american military sattelites ....also about upgrades ..Mig company will keep up with the upgrades because there is a clause in the deal ...that to certain time ..upgrades will be given by the supplier after that the customer can handle the upgrades ..like the way we have done for Mig 27 in HAL

also do note this during weapons dilivery test ..the use of onboard radar is not allowed ..if u did not know before MKI was introduced in IAF...IAF main multirole was Mig 29 ..which did the job just fine .Plus SH not offering any TVC technology which IAF loves ...plus it is very unlikely that Americans will give us the source codes of the radar with SH ...

and Rafale won the brazilian contract ..beating SH ..now that is not a surprise is it ?