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Indian AirForce slashes its Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) Programme by half, set to reboot acquisition under a different procurement category.
New Circus from the IAF's side! If this is true than now IAF will have no other choice but to give an order for additional Rafales and finish this whole MMRCA 2.0 drama. That's it, now IAF will have to procure additional Tejas MK-2 in compensation for the number of Aircrafts cut down in MMRCA.
Indian AirForce slashes its Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) Programme by half, set to reboot acquisition under a different procurement category.
20 flipping years (and counting) for this circus
Indian AirForce slashes its Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) Programme by half, set to reboot acquisition under a different procurement category.
The mrca deal should be scrapped no point getting these off the shelf planes better put all weigth behind MK2 and AMCA..Will any vendor in MMRCA be willing to give TOT for only 57 jets? It seems highly unlikely from my POV. If the deal has indeed been cut to 57 and if we buy any jet now, than we will have to buy them in "Fly-away" condition, Transfer of Technology is not happening at this point.
As much as I don't like IAF's procurement process, I would disagree with you, MMRCA 2.0 is a need, Tejas MK-2 and AMCA will start their production only after 2028, for the mean time, we still need a good number of jets to act as a stop gap until Tejas MK-2, AMCA start their induction.The mrca deal should be scrapped no point getting these off the shelf planes better put all weigth behind MK2 and AMCA..
Enough of IAF chutiapanti
MRCA circus will be even lengthier ... Modi govt wont decide for any winner this year and by next year it will be near to General election so if BjP comes back to power by end of 2024 something will be signed add 3 more years before planes start landing.As much as I don't like IAF's procurement process, I would disagree with you, MMRCA 2.0 is a need, Tejas MK-2 and AMCA will start their production only after 2028, for the mean time, we still need a good number of jets to act as a stop gap until Tejas MK-2, AMCA start their induction.
Do you know what is the price at which Rafale and SU-35 are being Respectively offered? I heard Somewhere on the internet that SU-35 costs less than half of Rafale.MRCA circus will be even lengthier ... Modi govt wont decide for any winner this year and by next year it will be near to General election so if BjP comes back to power by end of 2024 something will be signed add 3 more years before planes start landing.
Put extra money into MK2 ... first MK2 will be delivered to IAF before that.
SU35 has cost of ownership triple than that of Rafale ultimately it will even out... ruskis are sm mofo pesky dealers they squeez 100 dollar for a nut due to licensing shit n all.Do you know what is the price at which Rafale and SU-35 are being Respectively offered? I heard Somewhere on the internet that SU-35 costs less than half of Rafale.
Do you have any source to prove that SU-35 will have a license/ownership cost which will be more than 3x that of the Dassault Rafale? This statement of yours is hard to believe.SU35 has cost of ownership triple than that of Rafale ultimately it will even out... ruskis are sm mofo pesky dealers they squeez 100 dollar for a nut due to licensing shit n all.
Rafale will bring much more capability and on station time than su35 or su57 with simmilar or lesser cost of ownership
Not licensing cost but maintenance cost, on station cost.Do you have any source to prove that SU-35 will have a license cost which will be more than 3x that of the Dassault Rafale? This statement of yours is hard to believe.
And lastly the SU-57 is far more advanced than the Rafale, Sure Russian Weopons are more expensive in terms of maintenance as compared to western ones but they are good. SU-35 is best option after Rafale only in terms of logistics, and not Capability AFAIK.
Not by the IAF. This has for sure come from the MoD and GoI. They have ascertained that the cost of 114 MRFA will be completely unaffordable.New Circus from the IAF's side! If this is true than now IAF will have no other choice but to give an order for additional Rafales and finish this whole MMRCA 2.0 drama. That's it, now IAF will have to procure additional Tejas MK-2 in compensation for the number of Aircrafts cut down in MMRCA.
You don't need a source to prove it. It is a well known fact that the Su-30MKI which will have a similar operating cost, is very expensive to operate and maintain. Russian maintenance philosophy, design philosophy is quite different from the Western which are far more modern and consume less time and labour.Do you have any source to prove that SU-35 will have a license/ownership cost which will be more than 3x that of the Dassault Rafale? This statement of yours is hard to believe.
And lastly the SU-57 is far more advanced than the Rafale, Sure Russian Weopons are more expensive in terms of maintenance as compared to western ones but they are good. SU-35 is best option after Rafale only in terms of logistics, and not Capability AFAIK.
IAF actual requirement is for 150~180 jets, 126 plus jets. If you add 114 and 36, gives you 150 jets. IAF only want 150plus jets, and not interested in make in india or tot.Not by the IAF. This has for sure come from the MoD and GoI. They have ascertained that the cost of 114 MRFA will be completely unaffordable.
Plus we have already acquired 36 Rafales. The original requirement was for 126, so that left 90. But with progress being made on Tejas Mk2 and the IAF backing it to fill in for the retirements of Jaguars, Mirage-2000Is and MiG-29UPGs, the GoI has sensibly cut down on the MRFA. Now the IAF has no choice but to put all it's efforts into making the Tejas Mk2 a success. And if they're smart enough, to start studying the possibility of an IAF version of the TEDBF.
Given that the Navy will also acquire 26 MRCBF, the two can be bundled together (something the Navy Chief had once stated was the idea) to get a sizeable number to build within the country. So, 57 MRFA + 26 MRCBF will give 83 units that could be one type built in India.
It is quite obvious that the Rafale suits all the criteria. 36 units already in service with infrastructure in place for 2 more squadrons, most strategic autonomy of all types, carrier variant available and so single assembly line can produce both IAF's MRFA and IN's MRCBF.
why don't you compare mig 21 and Mirage or f15/f22 with m2k.Not licensing cost but maintenance cost, on station cost.
Case in point is Mirage 2000 and MKI comparison
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