Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

If Tanks have to evolve, which path they should follow?

  • Light Vehicles-Best for mobility

    Votes: 15 5.1%
  • Heavy Armour-Can take heavy punishment.

    Votes: 50 16.9%
  • Modular Design-Allowing dynamic adaptions.

    Votes: 175 59.3%
  • Universal Platform-Best for logistics.

    Votes: 55 18.6%

  • Total voters
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Akim

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What inference should be taken from this video - I mean which of the two tanks performed well?
Both tanks hit their target. But the battle is not an individual competition. The Chinese produce their tanks faster than the Ukrainians, so the choice is obvious.
 

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Both tanks hit their target. But the battle is not an individual competition. The Chinese produce their tanks faster than the Ukrainians, so the choice is obvious.
One more reason for Ukraine to be part of Russia.
It's goods not going to be exported to EU despite all the hype. Since end of cold war factories in Kharkov are slowly and painfully dying. Russians managed to revive their defence industry.
Ukraine sold everything for pennies.

PS:T-80 tanks is the only thing I envy Pakistan to have. One of my favourite tanks.
 

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One more reason for Ukraine to be part of Russia.
It's goods not going to be exported to EU despite all the hype. Since end of cold war factories in Kharkov are slowly and painfully dying. Russians managed to revive their defence industry.
Ukraine sold everything for pennies.

PS:T-80 tanks is the only thing I envy Pakistan to have. One of my favourite tanks.
What is the joy of living at war? In Russia, a third of the population has no sewage system, but they churn out many fighters. The Soviet Union had a bunch of weapons, but no toilet paper.
BM Oplot is outdated. It needs to be modernized by transferring from analog control to digital control.
 

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What is the joy of living at war? In Russia, a third of the population has no sewage system, but they churn out many fighters. The Soviet Union had a bunch of weapons, but no toilet paper.
BM Oplot is outdated. It needs to be modernized by transferring from analog control to digital control.
Weapons can mean freedom from invasion and the respect of fear which depending upon ones values may or may not be that important to some people.

It depends ultimately on what is your master value as that will decide the lower level values and actions based upon it.this in turn lead to someone having a different perspective upon their own state of affairs.

Ex: I'm sure alot of Pakis would not mind living in squalor unless it reaches a level where they can't eat day to day as long as they feel the ghazwa hind plans are seen to be going as planned.these conditions may manifest in the form of tanks being operational in large nos in their army,etc.

Similarly,Russians may be fine with the comparitively lower quality of material life possessions or services as long as the social and political life is not influenced by any external sources especially western sources.
 

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What is the joy of living at war? In Russia, a third of the population has no sewage system, but they churn out many fighters. The Soviet Union had a bunch of weapons, but no toilet paper.
BM Oplot is outdated. It needs to be modernized by transferring from analog control to digital control.
Russia gdp per capita is still 3 times ukraine.. Although soviet union stagnated later.. Their economy industrialized and grew very quickly in the first half of the 20th century..
 

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Asking Ukrainians to join with Russia is like asking west bengal to join with Bangladesh 😂🤣 You guys won't understand.
Par didi ki bas chale toh woh waisa hi karegi, at least from what I've heard, not sure how much truth there is to it though.
 

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Par didi ki bas chale toh woh waisa hi karegi, at least from what I've heard, not sure how much truth there is to it though.
Nah, that's a lot of exaggeration from propaganda!.. She a nut, but it's like people have forgotten how CPM era used to be like.

Plus bengal BJP superduper shit, worse than CPM or TMC & they aren't even in power yet. Just the anticipation had this effect!
Supporter base is split 50:50 now. If they win this time people will go right back to voting for everyone else... Then we'll have coalition govt again I suppose.
 

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Russia gdp per capita is still 3 times ukraine.. Although soviet union stagnated later.. Their economy industrialized and grew very quickly in the first half of the 20th century..
The economy grew, but the people are dead like flies. When tyranny eased, the economy began to decline.
Ukraine and Russia ... Look at the rallies and you will understand the difference.
Of course, the volume of purchases is no longer "Soviet volumes", but the tank plant is alive and well.
 

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Russia gdp per capita is still 3 times ukraine.. Although soviet union stagnated later.. Their economy industrialized and grew very quickly in the first half of the 20th century..
They underestimated the significance of huge population and went overboard with Gulags. By the time Stalin died and the successors realized the horror of mass killings, the demographics were already screwed.
There is still no hope of recovering population in near future. There is serious shortage of people for the largest country of the world.
 

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At long last, Turkey’s Altay tank finds an engine from South Korea
- Defense News

Burak Ege Bekdil
ANKARA, Turkey — Turkish armored vehicle-maker BMC has reached an agreement with two South Korean companies for work on the power pack of the future indigenous Altay tank, a senior official with BMC told Defense News.
The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the company signed deals with Doosan and S&T Dynamics to supply the engine and transmission mechanism for the Altay.
“These [deals] are the result of a strategic understanding between our companies and countries,” the official said.
A senior defense procurement official in Ankara confirmed “there was a breakthrough agreement” between BMC and South Korean defense companies. He did not elaborate on the terms.
The Altay program has faced delays due to a lack of access to significant components such as the engine, transmission and armor.
In 2019, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s office included the Altay tank as part of the military’s 2020 inventory in a government document. But the presidential office’s 2021 investment program did not mention the Altay, let alone the tank entering service.
Turkey had hoped to power the Altay with the German MTU engine and RENK transmission, but talks with German manufacturers in recent years failed due to a federal arms embargo on Turkey. Germany is one of a number of European governments that have limited exports to Turkey over its involvement in the Syrian civil war.
In order to bypass German export license restrictions, the South Korean companies will “de-Germanize” some German components in the power pack, sources familiar with the Altay program have said.
South Korea has experienced similar problems with its program for the mass production of the K2 Black Panther tank. Its deployment by the Army faced delays due to problems concerning the engine and transmission.
The first 100 units were built with a Doosan 1,500-horsepower engine and an S&T Dynamics automatic transmission. Under a second contract, some tanks were delivered in late 2016. But after S&T Dynamics’ transmission failed durability tests, South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration announced the second batch would have a “hybrid” power pack consisting of the locally developed engine and the German RENK transmission system.
Under the latest deals, the South Koran companies will supply the power pack and assist with its integration into the Altay. A test phase will follow, and if all goes well, the Altays may be powered by Doosan and S&T Dynamics within 18 months, the BMC official said. BMC expects to ink more definitive versions of the two deals within a couple of months.
The Altay program dates back to the mid-1990s, but it wasn’t until November 2018 that the Turkish government awarded the tank’s multibillion-dollar contract to BMC. In a competition, the firm defeated Otokar, which had already produced four Altay prototypes under a government contract.
The contract involves the production of an initial batch of 250 units, life-cycle logistical support, and the establishment by the contractor of a tank systems technology center and its operation. As part of the contract, BMC will design, develop and produce a tank with an unmanned fire control unit. The contract said the first Altay tank was expected to roll off the assembly line within 18 months. Opposition parties in parliament have slammed the government over delays, but procurement officials claim the 18-month clause will apply after the first unit’s production begins.
The Altay program is broken into two phases: T1 and T2. T1 covers the first 250 units, and T2 involves the advanced version of the tank. Turkey also plans to eventually produce 1,000 Altays, to be followed by an unmanned version.
 

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At long last, Turkey’s Altay tank finds an engine from South Korea
- Defense News

Burak Ege Bekdil
ANKARA, Turkey — Turkish armored vehicle-maker BMC has reached an agreement with two South Korean companies for work on the power pack of the future indigenous Altay tank, a senior official with BMC told Defense News.
The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the company signed deals with Doosan and S&T Dynamics to supply the engine and transmission mechanism for the Altay.
“These [deals] are the result of a strategic understanding between our companies and countries,” the official said.
A senior defense procurement official in Ankara confirmed “there was a breakthrough agreement” between BMC and South Korean defense companies. He did not elaborate on the terms.
The Altay program has faced delays due to a lack of access to significant components such as the engine, transmission and armor.
In 2019, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s office included the Altay tank as part of the military’s 2020 inventory in a government document. But the presidential office’s 2021 investment program did not mention the Altay, let alone the tank entering service.
Turkey had hoped to power the Altay with the German MTU engine and RENK transmission, but talks with German manufacturers in recent years failed due to a federal arms embargo on Turkey. Germany is one of a number of European governments that have limited exports to Turkey over its involvement in the Syrian civil war.
In order to bypass German export license restrictions, the South Korean companies will “de-Germanize” some German components in the power pack, sources familiar with the Altay program have said.
South Korea has experienced similar problems with its program for the mass production of the K2 Black Panther tank. Its deployment by the Army faced delays due to problems concerning the engine and transmission.
The first 100 units were built with a Doosan 1,500-horsepower engine and an S&T Dynamics automatic transmission. Under a second contract, some tanks were delivered in late 2016. But after S&T Dynamics’ transmission failed durability tests, South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration announced the second batch would have a “hybrid” power pack consisting of the locally developed engine and the German RENK transmission system.
Under the latest deals, the South Koran companies will supply the power pack and assist with its integration into the Altay. A test phase will follow, and if all goes well, the Altays may be powered by Doosan and S&T Dynamics within 18 months, the BMC official said. BMC expects to ink more definitive versions of the two deals within a couple of months.
The Altay program dates back to the mid-1990s, but it wasn’t until November 2018 that the Turkish government awarded the tank’s multibillion-dollar contract to BMC. In a competition, the firm defeated Otokar, which had already produced four Altay prototypes under a government contract.
The contract involves the production of an initial batch of 250 units, life-cycle logistical support, and the establishment by the contractor of a tank systems technology center and its operation. As part of the contract, BMC will design, develop and produce a tank with an unmanned fire control unit. The contract said the first Altay tank was expected to roll off the assembly line within 18 months. Opposition parties in parliament have slammed the government over delays, but procurement officials claim the 18-month clause will apply after the first unit’s production begins.
The Altay program is broken into two phases: T1 and T2. T1 covers the first 250 units, and T2 involves the advanced version of the tank. Turkey also plans to eventually produce 1,000 Altays, to be followed by an unmanned version.
What a shame. Those damn fucking kpop loving ****!!
 

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Bangladesh Army has received the first batch of VT-5/Type-15 Light Tanks from China in April 23,2020 Bangladesh Army has plan to acquire 150+ VT-5 from China and form a dedicated Armored Division.
 

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I strike again.. My long-standing prediction regarding the sad joke that is T-14 Armata has proven correct.
How is that an improvement over armata? The protection looks lower.

Also Russia could just simplify armata and retain its important features and get rid of the glitchy ones while

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