Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

[Damian]

Indians are building the same with 1/5 of the development cost of USA...

USA program is far more ambitious.

Also as I said, there are two separate program, Poland have it's own ABM/AA system for VSHORAD, SHORAD and Medium range, and USA will provide the long range ABM capabilities.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

If I criticize something, I use arguments, like design weaknesses, I don't give a damn about nationality, neither I mock someone due to nationality.



Show me these things in service first, or at least during tests.

I can show you AHS Krab during tests or on proving grounds during first training of our artillerymen.

We are far ahead of India in artillery systems.

we are far ahead of you in space technology, BVR missiles, SAM,ABM, ballastic missiles ,attack helicopter , fighter aircraft, nuclear submarine, destroyer, frigates, patrol vessels, aircraft carrier, rifles, space technology, UAV, cruise missiles, supersonic missiles,ATGM etc.

 

[bose]

USA program is far more ambitious.

Also as I said, there are two separate program, Poland have it's own ABM/AA system for VSHORAD, SHORAD and Medium range, and USA will provide the long range ABM capabilities.

India has spend around 350 Million US dollar for AKASH SAM development starting 1990 with first test done on 1997... Can USA come up something similar in that budget ??

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

those are SAM NOT ABM. Only the one that's USA is giving you IS ABM. Can you tell me how american project is 'ambitious'

 

[Damian]

we are far ahead of you in space technology, BVR missiles, SAM,ABM, ballastic missiles ,attack helicopter , fighter aircraft, nuclear submarine, destroyer, frigates, patrol vessels, aircraft carrier, rifles, space technology, UAV, cruise missiles, supersonic missiles,ATGM etc.

In some yes, in some no.

For example rifles, Poland is actually far ahead of any other nation with it's MSBS program. Ok this is again OT, but to explain you.

MSBS means Modułowy System Broni Strzeleckiej or Modular Firearms Systems. Which emans it is trully modular, if you have tools and parts, you can in the field, reconfigure MSBS from classic design configuration to bullpup configuration.

Classic design and bullpup share 80% of common components, same barrel, same bolt carrier group, same upper receiver, the only part that is actually replaced is lower receiver.

Here you have standard rifle variants in classic and bullpup configuration. Actually thse twoo bullpup are just reconfigured classic rifles.

This shows other MSBS variants, both in classic and bullpup configurations. There are variants:

1) subcarbine variant
2) standard carbine (rifle) variant
3) standard carbine (rifle) variant with underbarrel granade launcher
4) Light magazine fed machine gun
5) Marksman rifle

This is for 5,56x45mm ammunition, next phase of work is to develop 7,62x51mm battle rifle variant, and also 12 gauge shotgun, and parade rifle in classic configuration.

 

[Damian]

India has spend around 350 Million US dollar for AKASH SAM development starting 1990 with first test done on 1997... Can USA come up something similar in that budget ??

Patriot PAC-2 and PAC-3 (do not confuse them with old Patriot that was used in 1991, these are different systems), also MEADS system, THAAD system.

You seems to know very little about foreign stuff do you?

 

[Damian]

@abhi_the _gr8_maratha

If you are interested in rifles design, read this:

MSBS 5,56 - new Polish assault rifle prototype - Page 34

I fail to see any kind of rifle design comparable with MSBS.

And we should end this Off Topic.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

DRDO develops corner-shot rifle for counter-insurgency
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for your MSBS (BS?) this is my answer

 

[Damian]

DRDO develops corner-shot rifle for counter-insurgency
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for your MSBS (BS?) this is my answer

Which is completely different class of weapon system. Do you even understand a difference between a standard rifle system for infantry and a specialized counter insurgency weapon system?

 

[bose]

Patriot PAC-2 and PAC-3 (do not confuse them with old Patriot that was used in 1991, these are different systems), also MEADS system, THAAD system.

You seems to know very little about foreign stuff do you?

My argument is that India will come up with 1/5 the cost of development what USA or Europeans can...

Watch out for Indian THAAD like system, with a capability to intercept ICBM / ballistic missile from 5000 KM's range, the test are due later this year...

Watch out of lunching of second Nuclear powered submarines sometime later this year...

My argument is that it is easy to confine oneself [read Poland] into specifics areas like Tanks, Artillery or small arms... but when one get stretched out large number of areas from ships to aircrafts to ballistic missile and satellites... then the going becomes difficult for countries like India who did not have any industrial base till some 40 / 30 years back... India is learning and catching up very fast ...

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

Which is completely different class of weapon system. Do you even understand a difference between a standard rifle system for infantry and a specialized counter insurgency weapon system?

new born baby , read my post , I said rifle and not specified its standard or a special one
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btw , MSBS , a good rifle

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

Multi Caliber Individual Weapon System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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here is another answer

 

[Damian]

My argument is that India will come up with 1/5 the cost of development what USA or Europeans can...

Watch out for Indian THAAD like system, with a capability to intercept ICBM / ballistic missile from 5000 KM's range, the test are due later this year...

Watch out of lunching of second Nuclear powered submarines sometime later this year...

My argument is that it is easy to confine oneself [read Poland] into specifics areas like Tanks, Artillery or small arms... but when one get stretched out large number of areas from ships to aircrafts to ballistic missile and satellites... then the going becomes difficult for countries like India who did not have any industrial base till some 40 / 30 years back... India is learning and catching up very fast ...

Maybe, however I would be carefull with development costs, these have a bad tendency to spin out of control.

new born baby , read my post , I said rifle and not specified its standard or a special one

I think it is you who have problems with reading and writing in english, because I am more and more ammused by the babble talk you produce here.

And seriously, if you think that you look smarter, or you insult me calling me "new born baby" you are very wrong. You neither understand nor use sarcasm, so your attempts to inslut me are pathetic, no go back to school and learn english.

 

[Damian]

Multi Caliber Individual Weapon System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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here is another answer

Nothing special, old concept similiar to ACR, and still based on AK system. Also by bare look it is very obvious that ergonomics are not the best on this thing. And it is not modular system.

 

[Twinblade]

no go back to school and learn english.

Oh the irony. One non native english speaker with poorer command on the language than a 10 year old native speaker, telling another non native english speaker to go to school and learn english.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

hmmm , first give listen to your polish friend, then others

 

[Damian]

Oh the irony. One non native english speaker with poorer command on the language than a 10 year old native speaker, telling another non native english speaker to go to school and learn english.

Really? That's ironic? I can actually speak well enough so others can understand me, and I can understand them. However that... thing not only confuses people to which he responds, he also seems to lack unferstanding of everything we talk here. How can I speak with him? Discussion is immposible.

However I completely understand, I am foreigner, so I must be attacked... how typical.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

MSBS, a BS rifle as the name shows

 

[Damian]

 

[Twinblade]

Really? That's ironic?

Yes.

However I completely understand, I am foreigner, so I must be attacked... how typical.

You ridiculed his command of a language not native to him despite you not having best of proficiency skills around. You got called out for it, not because you are foreigner, but because you acted like a dick. Now apologise.