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Anyways M777s were meant to defend Arunachal, not Doklam. Of course if we had them, we would have deployed a few at Doklam as well.
Of course the initial number would be Arunachal, especially Tawang, but I believe long term plans call for a more expansive ULH deployment along the Indo-Tibet frontier.
 

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Is this true? not been confirmed through any other credible sources within Media

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/GX...ls-five-Pakistani-soldiers-in-LoC-strike.html
You should have posted the entire article. Its interesting.


New Delhi: The Indian Army’s special forces in Kashmir on Wednesday eliminated a Pakistani Border Action Team (BAT) of five enemy soldiers, a government official said.

The offensive was conducted along the Line of Control in the Muzaffarabad sector by the Army’s Para (special forces), the official said on condition of anonymity. BAT is a special Pakistani army unit conducting cross-border operations.

“General Bipin Rawat has given the go-ahead to the Para (SF) to conduct a search and elimination operation of BAT teams of Pakistan. Heightened low-grade warfare is likely to take place this summer,” a government official said on condition of anonymity.

On 1 May, BAT raided the Krishna Ghati sector at the border, killing and mutilitating two Indian soldiers. Following this, the Indian Army on 22 May launched a series of punitive assaults on Pakistan bunkers, and released a video documenting another set of assaults on Pakistan bunkers in the Naushera sector. The government official quoted above said assaults will continue through summer.

“The army will be targeting bunkers. We will not wait for more of our men to die along the border or for more soldiers to be mutilated by Pakistan before we take action,” the official added.

While the Army did not officially clarify this, it stated that assaults were part of a “routine exercise.”

“These are routine things. They keep happening. Things have not escalated because it’s part of a routine exercise,” Army spokesperson Ashok Narula said.

While the Army revived cordon and search operations (CASO) in Shopian in Kashmir to flush out terrorists from the Valley, after a gap of 15 years, a defence official said the “army was going back to its methodology of the 1990s, with a more sophisticated approach.”

While General Rawat on Sunday asserted that the Indian Army was fighting a “dirty war” in Kashmir, referring to stone-pelters attacking troops, defence minister Arun Jaitley on 24 May gave the Army full authority to carry out operations in Kashmir as they deemed fit.
 

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AHEM... The area opposite to Bhimber Gali sees Pakistans Kotli based 3 POK Brigade, The area under the Brigade is burning and getting shredded. Anything which is seen crawling on the ground is being pounded and pounded back to the almighty creator.

11 confirmed fatal Pig chops and 3 more likely to succumb at the Mil hospital.
And for snipers well...It hurts when your ripped apart by an 14mm AMR round.

More soon!
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a BSF report submitted to national security adviser Ajit Doval has said.

The Chinese army trainers, spotted in some Pakistani forward posts in the area of 3rd and 4th PoK brigades opposite the Rajouri sector, are imparting weapon handling training to their Pakistani counterparts. However, the report does not give details regarding the weapons.

Pakistan army units are also taking over charge of key posts along the international border from Pakistani Rangers to beef up manpower and are also deploying guns, mortars and sniping equipment there. Pakistan army artillery units are now deployed under 3 PoK brigade, Kotli, opposite the Rajouri sector,

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ng-border-with-India/articleshow/45155095.cms
 

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This was splashed all over media including Napaki ones that 5 Napaki fauji drowned in Kishanganga after their jeep was hit by us.
ok however the kishanganga jeep accident was just few days back, This was back in june 2017
 

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Back in 2014

a BSF report submitted to national security adviser Ajit Doval has said.

The Chinese army trainers, spotted in some Pakistani forward posts in the area of 3rd and 4th PoK brigades opposite the Rajouri sector, are imparting weapon handling training to their Pakistani counterparts. However, the report does not give details regarding the weapons.

Pakistan army units are also taking over charge of key posts along the international border from Pakistani Rangers to beef up manpower and are also deploying guns, mortars and sniping equipment there. Pakistan army artillery units are now deployed under 3 PoK brigade, Kotli, opposite the Rajouri sector,

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ng-border-with-India/articleshow/45155095.cms
Fear of CSD .
 

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Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked India’s China policy, could lead to war: Chinese state media
Published July 20, 2017 SOURCE: Hindustan Times


Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s China policy and could lead the two countries to war, Chinese state media said on Thursday, adding a warning that it could put India’s own interests in “jeopardy”.

The latest salvo from Chinese state media — in the backdrop of an ongoing military impasse near the Sikkim border — reminded New Delhi that it is “weaker” than China in “national strength” but Indian politicians have failed to grasp that reality.

Sounding a warning, the commentary also reminded the Modi government about its failure to curb Hindu nationalistic violence against Muslims since this government came to power in 2014.

The state media article indicated the current standoff was planned and executed to cater to Hindu nationalistic sentiments.

Modi rode a wave of rising religious nationalism to power in 2014 and is now pandering to the sentiments through its “strong” policies against China and Pakistan, said the analysis published in the nationalistic tabloid, Global Times.

“The election of Indian PM Narendra Modi has fueled the country’s nationalist sentiments. Modi took advantage of rising Hindu nationalism to come to power. This, on one hand, has enhanced his prestige and ability to control the country, but on the other, has made India more subject to the influence of conservatives, thus hampering reform,” the analysis said.

“In diplomacy, New Delhi is demanded to act tougher in foreign relations, especially toward countries like Pakistan and China. The border row this time is an action targeted at China that caters to the demand of India’s religious nationalists,” the commentary said. Targetting Muslims has been part of the rising religious nationalism, it said.

“The Modi government can do nothing if religious nationalism becomes extreme, as shown in its failure to curb violent incidents against Muslims since he came to power in 2014,” the GT commentary, written by Yu Ning, said.

The source of India’s “deep strategic suspicion” of course is the 1962 war, the article said.

“Since India’s defeat in the Sino-Indian War of 1962, some Indians have been stuck in a zero-sum mentality in dealing with China. The war inflicted lingering pain on India and it became a hard knot to untie, leading to an ingrained suspicion of Chinese strategy. China’s development is seen as a misfortune to India. The faster China grows, the more fearful they are,” the commentary said.

“India harbors deep strategic suspicion toward China. It considers China as a rival and a potential enemy. For a long time, it has hyped that China is pursuing what is called the ‘String of Pearls’ to encircle India. Despite China’s goodwill in inviting India to join the Belt and Road initiative, India insists on interpreting the project as a part of China’s strategic containment and encirclement of it,” the commentary added.

China has blamed India for the ongoing Donglang (Doklam) impasse, accusing Indian soldiers of trespass and preventing Chinese soldiers from building a road in the region, which is also claimed by Bhutan.

Beijing wants India to withdraw its troops from Donglang before the two sides can open talks. New Delhi says the road, if built, will have serious security implications for India.

http://idrw.org/rising-hindu-nationalism-has-hijacked-indias-china-policy-could-lead-to-war-chinese-state-media/#more-141805 .


Could this be effect of Gaddar Traitor PAPPU meeting Chinese envoy and conveying the Hindu nationalism story? :facepalm:

SICKULAR Brigade now sleeping with Chinese Chipkali.........:frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

@Kunal Biswas @airtel @sayareakd @all
 

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Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked India’s China policy, could lead to war: Chinese state media
Published July 20, 2017 SOURCE: Hindustan Times


Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s China policy and could lead the two countries to war, Chinese state media said on Thursday, adding a warning that it could put India’s own interests in “jeopardy”.

The latest salvo from Chinese state media — in the backdrop of an ongoing military impasse near the Sikkim border — reminded New Delhi that it is “weaker” than China in “national strength” but Indian politicians have failed to grasp that reality.

Sounding a warning, the commentary also reminded the Modi government about its failure to curb Hindu nationalistic violence against Muslims since this government came to power in 2014.

The state media article indicated the current standoff was planned and executed to cater to Hindu nationalistic sentiments.

Modi rode a wave of rising religious nationalism to power in 2014 and is now pandering to the sentiments through its “strong” policies against China and Pakistan, said the analysis published in the nationalistic tabloid, Global Times.

“The election of Indian PM Narendra Modi has fueled the country’s nationalist sentiments. Modi took advantage of rising Hindu nationalism to come to power. This, on one hand, has enhanced his prestige and ability to control the country, but on the other, has made India more subject to the influence of conservatives, thus hampering reform,” the analysis said.

“In diplomacy, New Delhi is demanded to act tougher in foreign relations, especially toward countries like Pakistan and China. The border row this time is an action targeted at China that caters to the demand of India’s religious nationalists,” the commentary said. Targetting Muslims has been part of the rising religious nationalism, it said.

“The Modi government can do nothing if religious nationalism becomes extreme, as shown in its failure to curb violent incidents against Muslims since he came to power in 2014,” the GT commentary, written by Yu Ning, said.

The source of India’s “deep strategic suspicion” of course is the 1962 war, the article said.

“Since India’s defeat in the Sino-Indian War of 1962, some Indians have been stuck in a zero-sum mentality in dealing with China. The war inflicted lingering pain on India and it became a hard knot to untie, leading to an ingrained suspicion of Chinese strategy. China’s development is seen as a misfortune to India. The faster China grows, the more fearful they are,” the commentary said.

“India harbors deep strategic suspicion toward China. It considers China as a rival and a potential enemy. For a long time, it has hyped that China is pursuing what is called the ‘String of Pearls’ to encircle India. Despite China’s goodwill in inviting India to join the Belt and Road initiative, India insists on interpreting the project as a part of China’s strategic containment and encirclement of it,” the commentary added.

China has blamed India for the ongoing Donglang (Doklam) impasse, accusing Indian soldiers of trespass and preventing Chinese soldiers from building a road in the region, which is also claimed by Bhutan.

Beijing wants India to withdraw its troops from Donglang before the two sides can open talks. New Delhi says the road, if built, will have serious security implications for India.

http://idrw.org/rising-hindu-nationalism-has-hijacked-indias-china-policy-could-lead-to-war-chinese-state-media/#more-141805 .


Could this be effect of Gaddar Traitor PAPPU meeting Chinese envoy and conveying the Hindu nationalism story? :facepalm:

SICKULAR Brigade now sleeping with Chinese Chipkali.........:frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

@Kunal Biswas @airtel @sayareakd @all
still can't figure out how hindu nationalism is a bad thing, we saw what islamic nationalism did in 47
 

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still can't figure out how hindu nationalism is a bad thing, we saw what islamic nationalism did in 47
It's a bad thing for chinki/ porki alliance.
United 1 billion Hindus ( Sikh and Jain too)
Can't be challenged by any nation power.

Soon India will overtake china in population. Centre of world geopolitical gravity will inevitably shift towards India.

Look what Jew nationalism have achieved for a tiny 8 million Israelies.

The strength that Russia and Japan posses (both 150 million ) comes from their nationalistic unity.

Now once again imagine 1000 million Hindus united for a single nation.

What can not be achieved.
 

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still can't figure out how hindu nationalism is a bad thing, we saw what islamic nationalism did in 47
It is a bad thing for Khangress which till now ruled with its divisive policies. Also how come Chinese got hold of this theory? This is work of Congressi PAPPU who met Chinese envoy secretly. Maybe they want China to attack India and some how defeat India through their information, so they can come to power in 2019...........These are traitors to say the least.
 

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There are Pak posts which overlook our communication lines at several places from Jammu division right up to Kargil.


Pt 5353 is an important feature which was occupied by Pakistan in 1999 kargil war but now there are alternate routes

Also this Govt LoC trade center was shelled by Pak few months ago which is an imp transit place for trade


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They tried in Jammu(samba) back in 2015, India retaliated x3 in Sialkot, since then they have not dared to fire a single bullet there- The way retaliation is going on in Poonch, Rajori area, in coming years this may act as deterrence for Paki misadventure-

Pt 5353 is covered, from 3 sides any misadventure would prove disastrous for them, Their only advantage which can hurt India is at some positions right on the LoC line in Kupwara, from there they can watch any movement of Indian forces which are usually patrolling for CI ops- and target them- You can see these positions just North of Keran on LoC line in google maps- Due to hostile terrain Indian forces are at disadvantage in this area-

In the past Chinese troops were also seen with Pakis on these posts, Which Intelligence report that they were operating from Taobat-
 

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We don't need Mongolian base to do that probably...That supply roue passes through along Karakash river which by far 100 km away from LAC in farthest part..the road passes Kulnun by 3 passes, Sanju, Hindutash and one other..these narrow passes should be under our Brahmos sight all the time...
Our military presence required in Mongolia to show our Mongol friend that they are't alone against Bully China , it's also give them lavage to deal China diplomatically...probably we already discuss the matter with Mongolian govt who have recent tough issue with CCP for oil and gas refinery...
Armor divisions in Mongolia would mean direct threat to Mainland China, to use the route you are suggesting India will have to capture Aksai Chin and Gigit Baltistan for proper logistics & cushion-

Armor divisions and IAF squadrons in Mongolia would use Mongolia and Russian Eastern districts as logistics & cushions, although Its a far fetched idea, and Chinese will bitterly oppose this, perhaps even attack India and Mongolia- Russia is also very important here without them this cannot happen, and If Russians allow this they will become main enemy of China also-

China is too critical about improving Indo-Mongolian relations and they offered 5 billion USD to Mongolia recently after visits by Indian PM and parliamentarians-
 

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Typical Chinese bullc***. the current standoff was created by emperor Jin himself to bolster his position and they are blaming India. Ulta Chor Kotwal ko dante.
 

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Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked India’s China policy, could lead to war: Chinese state media
Published July 20, 2017 SOURCE: Hindustan Times


Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s China policy and could lead the two countries to war, Chinese state media said on Thursday, adding a warning that it could put India’s own interests in “jeopardy”.

The latest salvo from Chinese state media — in the backdrop of an ongoing military impasse near the Sikkim border — reminded New Delhi that it is “weaker” than China in “national strength” but Indian politicians have failed to grasp that reality.

Sounding a warning, the commentary also reminded the Modi government about its failure to curb Hindu nationalistic violence against Muslims since this government came to power in 2014.

The state media article indicated the current standoff was planned and executed to cater to Hindu nationalistic sentiments.

Modi rode a wave of rising religious nationalism to power in 2014 and is now pandering to the sentiments through its “strong” policies against China and Pakistan, said the analysis published in the nationalistic tabloid, Global Times.

“The election of Indian PM Narendra Modi has fueled the country’s nationalist sentiments. Modi took advantage of rising Hindu nationalism to come to power. This, on one hand, has enhanced his prestige and ability to control the country, but on the other, has made India more subject to the influence of conservatives, thus hampering reform,” the analysis said.

“In diplomacy, New Delhi is demanded to act tougher in foreign relations, especially toward countries like Pakistan and China. The border row this time is an action targeted at China that caters to the demand of India’s religious nationalists,” the commentary said. Targetting Muslims has been part of the rising religious nationalism, it said.

“The Modi government can do nothing if religious nationalism becomes extreme, as shown in its failure to curb violent incidents against Muslims since he came to power in 2014,” the GT commentary, written by Yu Ning, said.

The source of India’s “deep strategic suspicion” of course is the 1962 war, the article said.

“Since India’s defeat in the Sino-Indian War of 1962, some Indians have been stuck in a zero-sum mentality in dealing with China. The war inflicted lingering pain on India and it became a hard knot to untie, leading to an ingrained suspicion of Chinese strategy. China’s development is seen as a misfortune to India. The faster China grows, the more fearful they are,” the commentary said.

“India harbors deep strategic suspicion toward China. It considers China as a rival and a potential enemy. For a long time, it has hyped that China is pursuing what is called the ‘String of Pearls’ to encircle India. Despite China’s goodwill in inviting India to join the Belt and Road initiative, India insists on interpreting the project as a part of China’s strategic containment and encirclement of it,” the commentary added.

China has blamed India for the ongoing Donglang (Doklam) impasse, accusing Indian soldiers of trespass and preventing Chinese soldiers from building a road in the region, which is also claimed by Bhutan.

Beijing wants India to withdraw its troops from Donglang before the two sides can open talks. New Delhi says the road, if built, will have serious security implications for India.

http://idrw.org/rising-hindu-nationalism-has-hijacked-indias-china-policy-could-lead-to-war-chinese-state-media/#more-141805 .


Could this be effect of Gaddar Traitor PAPPU meeting Chinese envoy and conveying the Hindu nationalism story? :facepalm:

SICKULAR Brigade now sleeping with Chinese Chipkali.........:frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

@Kunal Biswas @airtel @sayareakd @all
So China is talking about oppression of Muslims in India since Modi government came to power? Did it forget what it is doing in Xinxiang? What if it did not write the article.

I am sure that this article was written and edited at 24 Akbar Road New Delhi. And the picture is evidence of the connection.

Congress is doing what it best does. Apparently, Pappu Pasta meet more times than the last known. They are cooking an obvious thing; Congress Special.


 

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Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked India’s China policy, could lead to war: Chinese state media
Published July 20, 2017 SOURCE: Hindustan Times


Rising Hindu nationalism has hijacked Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s China policy and could lead the two countries to war, Chinese state media said on Thursday, adding a warning that it could put India’s own interests in “jeopardy”.

The latest salvo from Chinese state media — in the backdrop of an ongoing military impasse near the Sikkim border — reminded New Delhi that it is “weaker” than China in “national strength” but Indian politicians have failed to grasp that reality.

Sounding a warning, the commentary also reminded the Modi government about its failure to curb Hindu nationalistic violence against Muslims since this government came to power in 2014.

The state media article indicated the current standoff was planned and executed to cater to Hindu nationalistic sentiments.

Modi rode a wave of rising religious nationalism to power in 2014 and is now pandering to the sentiments through its “strong” policies against China and Pakistan, said the analysis published in the nationalistic tabloid, Global Times.

“The election of Indian PM Narendra Modi has fueled the country’s nationalist sentiments. Modi took advantage of rising Hindu nationalism to come to power. This, on one hand, has enhanced his prestige and ability to control the country, but on the other, has made India more subject to the influence of conservatives, thus hampering reform,” the analysis said.

“In diplomacy, New Delhi is demanded to act tougher in foreign relations, especially toward countries like Pakistan and China. The border row this time is an action targeted at China that caters to the demand of India’s religious nationalists,” the commentary said. Targetting Muslims has been part of the rising religious nationalism, it said.

“The Modi government can do nothing if religious nationalism becomes extreme, as shown in its failure to curb violent incidents against Muslims since he came to power in 2014,” the GT commentary, written by Yu Ning, said.

The source of India’s “deep strategic suspicion” of course is the 1962 war, the article said.

“Since India’s defeat in the Sino-Indian War of 1962, some Indians have been stuck in a zero-sum mentality in dealing with China. The war inflicted lingering pain on India and it became a hard knot to untie, leading to an ingrained suspicion of Chinese strategy. China’s development is seen as a misfortune to India. The faster China grows, the more fearful they are,” the commentary said.

“India harbors deep strategic suspicion toward China. It considers China as a rival and a potential enemy. For a long time, it has hyped that China is pursuing what is called the ‘String of Pearls’ to encircle India. Despite China’s goodwill in inviting India to join the Belt and Road initiative, India insists on interpreting the project as a part of China’s strategic containment and encirclement of it,” the commentary added.

China has blamed India for the ongoing Donglang (Doklam) impasse, accusing Indian soldiers of trespass and preventing Chinese soldiers from building a road in the region, which is also claimed by Bhutan.

Beijing wants India to withdraw its troops from Donglang before the two sides can open talks. New Delhi says the road, if built, will have serious security implications for India.

http://idrw.org/rising-hindu-nationalism-has-hijacked-indias-china-policy-could-lead-to-war-chinese-state-media/#more-141805 .
To these Chinky dorks...

 

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So China is talking about oppression of Muslims in India since Modi government came to power? Did it forget what it is doing in Xinxiang? What if it did not write the article.

I am sure that this article was written and edited at 24 Akbar Road New Delhi. And the picture is evidence of the connection.

Congress is doing what it best does. Apparently, Pappu Pasta meet more times than the last known. They are cooking an obvious thing; Congress Special.



This is real character of these sikular bastards. They were never so exposed like this time. This forum has witnessed vicious arguments as we defended Modi before election and categorically made our assertion against those who opposed him that Modi will stir and drain these swamps.

One can only imagine why India remained a mediocre poor nation. These are seeds of 'Naagfani' and they must be destroyed (As Bheema said about Kurus in Mahabharata).

To Chinese's credit they are playing all their Chanakyean moves very well by first intentionally removing web page and now that kind of propaganda using same words that have been told to them by these Congi feudal.

They are using these compromised Indians to exploit our fault lines which Congis are actually more than willing to be part of. But in the long run they are going to lose as Hindus will become more consolidated.
 
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