LOC, LAC & International Border skirmishs

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gekko

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I'm not even sure you understand how nuclear strike works..
He is still confused whether to call his mom 'ammi' or 'bua', because his abbu jaan has created this puzzle and you are burdening him with nuclear doctrines. Let him go, it's time for his 5X:hail:. Let some blood gush in the direction of his brain, then maybe he will be able to think straight.
 

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Don't underestimate your arch rivals and enemies ever, always remember this Pakistan is China and China is Pakistan, pointing out especially the ‘inter-operability’ that both military forces have achieved.

Pakistan has built military power, India a military force. Military force involves the mere collection of war-withal, that is, building up of troops and war-waging material; military power is about optimal utilization of military force. It entails an understanding of the adversaries and the quantum of threat from each, the nature of warfare, domains of war, how it would be fought, and structural military reforms at various levels to meet these challenges. And, if both Pakistan and China attacked then India can’t defeat Pakistan or China in a two front war.
Ohoo. Now Pak is a military power. Proof of how high one can get by taking Afghani charas.... Pak is rent a state, offering its services to the highest bidder. Much like the khatoon of Heera mandi. Earlier slept with US to counter Russian influence in Afghn & now doing services of the Hans. The military power that calculated a Kashmiri uprising in 1965 and failed miserably. The military power who sent its NLI under mujahid uniform to capture Kargil heights and failed again. Its a country that never learns. Pak cannot even send their uniformed army into Kashmir and dream that Chini will come to their help. Utter stupidity. Two front war is a reality but from India's perspective. China is not so stupid to entangle itself in an Indo Pak match. It will let her whore be screwed just once again. After all whores are meant to be screwed only. Both threats will be dealt separately.
 

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Don't underestimate your arch rivals and enemies ever, always remember this Pakistan is China and China is Pakistan, pointing out especially the ‘inter-operability’ that both military forces have achieved.

Pakistan has built military power, India a military force. Military force involves the mere collection of war-withal, that is, building up of troops and war-waging material; military power is about optimal utilization of military force. It entails an understanding of the adversaries and the quantum of threat from each, the nature of warfare, domains of war, how it would be fought, and structural military reforms at various levels to meet these challenges. And, if both Pakistan and China attacked then India can’t defeat Pakistan or China in a two front war.
The Islamic Army of Porkistan is neither a military power nor a military force! You're giving too much to your adversaries.
 

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China ready to attack India, claims Mulayam in Lok Sabha

NEW DELHI: Samajwadi Party leader and former defence minister Mulayam Singh Yadav on Wednesday claimed that China was ready to attack India in collaboration with Pakistan and asked the government to reverse its stand on the Tibet issue and support its independence.

Raising the matter in the Lok Sabha against the backdrop of tension between India and China, he asked the government to inform Parliament what it has done to meet any likely challenge from the neighbouring country.

"India is today facing a big danger from China. I have been cautioning the central government for years. China has joined hands with Pakistan. It has made full preparation to attack India.

"China is India's biggest opponent. What has the government done? In Kashmir, the Chinese army has allied with the Pak army," Yadav, known for his tough stand on China, said during the Zero Hour.

He also claimed that China had buried nuclear weapons in Pakistan to target India, adding that Indian intelligence agencies "would know better".

"China is our enemy, not Pakistan. Pakistan can do us no damage," he said.

It was India's responsibility to protect Bhutan and China was eyeing Nepal, he said.

He also spoke against massive amounts of Chinese goods finding a market in India.

Yadav said India's stand on Tibet, a reference to its acceptance that the region was part of China, was a "mistake" and the time has come to support its independence as it had been a traditional buffer between the two big nations.

"China is our enemy, not Pakistan. Pakistan can do us no damage," he said.

It was India's responsibility to protect Bhutan and China was eyeing Nepal, he said.

He also spoke against massive amounts of Chinese goods finding a market in India.
Wow! What a rant and that too coming from the erstwhile defence minister of India! Lol!

These frikkin clueless politicians need to pipe down and stop sensationalizing such issues when they know squat.
 

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PLA is seriously dissatisfied with Xi as he is cutting troops left right and center.
Not only that, he's after the corrupt who are in their thousands in the military as well as in the echelons of the CPC.

Their freebies have been cut
The money taps have been shut
And thus they're pissed off
With 11 Jin Ping!


(How's that for some poetry? :biggrin2: )
 
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JCO Shashi Kumar attained martyrdom few hours ago due to Pak firing. Total 3rd fatal casualty in just 24 hours and 7th in this month of July


Rest in peace
 

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From all thats going on at LoC and LAC, it seems to me that all the earlier "restraint" by previous governments was to prevent this showdown but keep taking small hits.
The change in strategy by the current leadership is not palatable to either the opponents internally or to external adversaries.
Thanks to other learned members on this forum, my understanding is that, for the external adversaries to escalate, they must commit fully. Which is all out war. There is no way that they can do some posturing and get us to back off. This is a serious loss of leverage for them as we used to be accommodative earlier.

The other impact for China would be on SCS and OROB+CPEC. China has not been fair with India wrt NSG, Hafiz case and more importantly ignoring our objections to CPEC. That in itself was enough for us to say not to China on OROB. The current situation makes it a bad case of China in any case. If they commit more resources for war with India and lose the economic gains. If they back off, they lose their leverage with India and other nations. Their OROB (along with China next pole narrative) is in threat unless they get out of this tactfully without escalating.

Internally too, any Chinese action will make Modi stronger. This is not something the opposition parties would like.

So,in all probability, China will back off. But what scares me is that they may increase their investments in anti-India groups within and that is not good for us.
 
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