LOC, LAC & IB warfare

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The maps are clear. They intruded on Dokla trijunction not plateau. They already control the plateau. It is the region between Mt Gimochi and Doklam plateau which shifts the meeting point 6km south is what they are seeking.
They will have to vacate whole plateau because whole plateau is disputed and they cannot defend this with IA presence there.

IA is already in this plateau in eye-ball to eye-ball confrontation.

IA stopped them construction of road from Chumbi from eastern side of up to the plateau. Till now they never had permanent presence here.

All they had done till now is tracked the area and gone back. But this time around they started the road construction
activity, and this is blocked by IA.
 

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There is some substantial difference between countries coming out against china which are being bullied and India standing against China coz , majority of those nations are publicly, directly or indirectly supported by america most of the time. but coz of N korea may be, Trump has taken china's helping hand, and just recently (few hours back Trump’s press secretary mislabelled Chinese President Xi Jinping as the leader of Taiwan ) hailed him the President of Taiwan, may be a trick out of the books to please Xi and china!! and that to at these times. America is not with india but ask's to maintain a balance posture with china is south asia. but again the Question arises is , if not America than is Russia"s stands are clean enough as they supported india in Bangladesh liberation ?
 

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It can't be better time for India....

Xi has to implement his plan by November 2017(prior 19th CCP meeting).

Loosing $70 billion might be bad if not worse(yes, China will handle) for China (but can we/India fill that vacuum at similar cost!!??)

Xi might have known that only a miracle can get him Chairman post of CCP for next term. OBOR was his trump card, which wasn't much convincing as India didn't join. NK wasn't in control, another blow to Xi reputation. India is getting closer to US.... i.e., failure of Chinese policy. Financial burden on Chinese increased due to huge debts, which world might have forgotten, but not Xi competitors.

In short, Xi knows he is sinking and at alarming pace. A victory will push him atleast for next term or two.

Xi knows that he can't win skimmers(especially in N.E) with India. His plan was to create situation for Skimmers, make India back off, thus gaining political victory. He also knows that any failure will result in political suicide. If Xi doesn't do anything, then the result is pretty much same. In short, Xi has nothing to loose by heating up LAC.


Situation is similar on Indian side, Indian Victory guarantees 2019 NDA victory and defeat guarantees NDA defeat.

On top of it, India might have better opportunity to sort the issues once and for all.

Defeat China, make deal with new CCP chairman on importing stuff... i.e., clean shit on Mac Mohan Line(I doubt this, as it might be political suicide for new chairman). Sort issues on building dam, issues on Tawang, Naxal issues, if we get lucky enough, get back our Aksai Chin.

I think, I am trying to understand the BIG picture.

Heck, shit gets worse if we add Pak into picture. If Pak enters, GOI will not loose opportunity to blast Pak out of picture; because defeating Pak gives more votes than stale mate or similar situation with China. Pak knows this....but greed of inbreed can't be fathomed.

MGA predicted that action might take place from late September to early November. The only problem for PLA is every passing hour helps our generals to perfect their plans. Soldiers train hard, hoping (itching) for some action and full revenge (1962).

I'd like to quote Liam Neeson from A-Team "Give me a minute, I am Good..
Give me an hour, I am great...

Give me six months, I am unbeatable..."
 

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well said ..When it come to even skirmishes between two giants its going to equal to a war a small country may fight ..We are talking about worlds 2nd largest standing army vs 4th largest ...

This will be classic case of who is going to give the knock out punch when both know that s not going to end the fight as the opponent will still hit back ..

Lets wait and see ..Its our soldiers who will be fighting it hard... lets pray that god gives them strength and safety and also govt gives them weapons to fight ...
It would take months to build up for skirmish. It take more than 50 ~ support troops in support for 30 ~ fighting troops at those High altitude warfare and due to logistics.

And for Siachen the number is 100~ supporting troops for 30 fighting troops.


Rough estimate.
 
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It would take months to build up for skirmish. It take more than 50 ~ support troops in support for 30 ~ fighting troops at those High altitude warfare and due to logistics.

And for Siachen the number is 100~ supporting troops for 30 fighting troops.


Rough estimate.
We have high altitude warfare experience for decades only experience Chinese have is bullying tibetans. This will be soldier vs soldier most of the artillery will be useless. Chinese will be slaughtered.
 

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Such a pact will force India to sign one with USA.
It will be a chinese specific pact.We will need one for our own good.
do you really think Americans will risk their Lives for Indians ?? (or Koreans , Taiwanese etc ) :shock::shock::shock:

We dont need American Army , we have a Big professional Army ..........we can defend Ourselves .

yes they can provide weapons & technologies etc .........which they can Provide without any such Pacts .
 

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Has anybody considered that if Pak gets involved in this it will have its entire Ummah behind in the name of islam
 

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Has anybody considered that if Pak gets involved in this it will have its entire Ummah behind in the name of islam
As per masters of Ummah(saudis), it's the brown skinned pakis that need to fight for arabs not the other way around.

But the possibility of formation of an another international coalition of terrorists and attract them towards kashmir is a possibility, last time the pakis did it in Afghanistan against soviets with american cash, they can always do it again for kashmir with chinese cash. with ISIS crashing in iraq and syria, there are plenty of jihadis waiting for their next cause. only problem is that ISIS jihadis are too costly to maintain even for pakistan.
 

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Has anybody considered that if Pak gets involved in this it will have its entire Ummah behind in the name of islam
They will Get support of Chumah Via Facebook ......................but Nobody will send their army to fight for these Converted slaves , Middle east is already busy in civil wars..........yes there are many Maoists/pak supporters in India which can cause Riots & violence .
 

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@hammer head @Bornubus @reddevil9 @ghost @Kunal Biswas
Any thoughts?
It looks like the first part is recent (time stamp) but the remainder of the video could be very(Sartaj Aziz ish) old.
Edit: Added this gem of a Pres :rofl: release

"Four Indian Soldiers Killed"
:pound:
By this attempt at == I am assuming at least four Uniformed Jehadis were gifted an all access Goat Rape pass in upper Pakistan, to join Burhan "Call Ammi when RR shows up" Wani?
 
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@hammer head @Bornubus @reddevil9 @ghost @Kunal Biswas
Any thoughts?
It looks like the first part is recent (time stamp) but the remainder of the video could be very(Sartaj Aziz ish) old.
Edit: Added this gem of a Pres :rofl: release

"Four Indian Soldiers Killed"
:pound:
By this attempt at == I am assuming at least four Uniformed Jehadis were gifted an all access Goat Rape pass in upper Pakistan, to join Burhan "Call Ammi when RR shows up" Wani?
if we take a couple of steps back and take a look at current affairs from a bird's eye view with benefit of hind sight of last three years, it looks as if Doval or somebody at the top anticipated these events much before every body else.

we now have propaganda from our west and propaganda from east and propaganda from within.

imagine a scenario with modi not doing all those foreign goodwill trips to 60 countries for past 2.5 years and no tilt to america and no shutting down on those NGOs, by now other countries including jumped in on either china's side or pakistan's side(Kashmir Human rights angle). we would have been asked to explain ourselves on nonsensical things, like we were asked before to do before.
 

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if we take a couple of steps back and take a look at current affairs from a bird's eye view with benefit of hind sight of last three years, it looks as if Doval or somebody at the top anticipated these events much before every body else.

we now have propaganda from our west and propaganda from east and propaganda from within.

imagine a scenario with modi not doing all those foreign goodwill trips to 60 countries for past 2.5 years and no tilt to america and no shutting down on those NGOs, by now other countries including jumped in on either china's side or pakistan's side(Kashmir Human rights angle). we would have been asked to explain ourselves on nonsensical things, like we were asked before to do before.
When you are determined to stir the swamp, you know you will do it to change the status Quo, you will prepare the net and the pesticide before hand; to catch the animals and bugs that will come out on the surface to bite.

Nothing prophetic gone here, just a good home work done for obvious order of things. Many variables still remain unaccounted for as the other side will be doing their own efforts to outsmart; thus you improvise.
 
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do you really think Americans will risk their Lives for Indians ?? (or Koreans , Taiwanese etc ) :shock::shock::shock:

We dont need American Army , we have a Big professional Army ..........we can defend Ourselves .

yes they can provide weapons & technologies etc .........which they can Provide without any such Pacts .

We need uninterrupted supply of their weapons.
 
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