LOC, LAC & IB warfare

[Kunal Biswas]

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[katiyarash]

Gen Bakhshi accurate as always with his analysis..

 

[lcafanboy]

Amid border stand-off, Chinese ships on prowl in Indian Ocean
Rajat Pandit | TNN | Jul 4, 2017, 04.36AM IST

HIGHLIGHTS

• India and China are also currently engaged in shadow-boxing on the high seas in the IOR.
• A Chinese Yuan-class conventional submarine is prowling in Indian Ocean.
• This is the 7th Chinese submarine to enter the region since December 2013.

NEW DELHI: The India-China military stand-off seems set for a long haul with China responding to defence minister Arun Jaitley's remark that India is not what it was in 1962 by saying neither was China and the developments coinciding with unusual activity of Chinese warships in the Indian Ocean.

Jaitley's comment was a reaction to China's blunt reminder that India should not forget the "historical lessons" of the 1962 war which ended badly for India. On Monday, the rhetoric grew more heated with the Chinese spokesperson noting China too is different and will take "all necessary measures" to safeguard its territorial sovereignty, a PTI report from Beijing said.



The sharp exchange comes as Indian and Chinese soldiers have dug into positions and pitched tents in anticipation of a prolonged confrontation near the Sikkim-Bhutan-India trijunction, even as the Navy is closely monitoring "an unusual surge" in the number of Chinese warships in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR).
Far away from this virtually eyeball-to-eyeball confrontation on the land border, which many believe will eventually ease with "some sort of mutual troop pull-back from the forward positions", India and China are also currently engaged in shadow-boxing on the high seas in the IOR.
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"Indian naval satellite Rukmini (Gsat-7), long-range maritime patrol aircraft like Poseidon-8I and warships have monitored at least 13 Chinese naval units in the IOR over the last two months. They range from the latest Luyang-III class guided-missile destroyers to the more benign hydrographic research vessels," said a source.



In Beijing, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said the Sino-India border in the Sikkim sector is well demarcated and said India had "trepassed" into Chinese territory. But while claiming the construction of a road — the bone of contention — was legitimate activity, China has chosen to ignore Bhutan's protest that its land has been encroached upon.

With the two armies unwilling to budge from their positions on the Doklam plateau, which is actually Bhutanese territory but being claimed by China to construct a motorable road towards the Doka La area held by Indian troops, sources say diplomatic hotlines are now working overtime to resolve the almost month-long troop confrontation in the remote border region. "It will have to resolved diplomatically. The two armies are playing the waiting game to see if the other side blinks first. As demanded by India and Bhutan, China should restore the status quo that it unilaterally disrupted by entering the Doklam area to construct the road," said a source.

As was first reported by TOI last week, both the armies have reinforced their positions in the region by pumping in more troops and setting up logistic chains for food and other supplies. The "pro-active stance" adopted by Indian troops on the ground, in defence of Bhutanese territory because it has "serious security implications" for India as well, has led Beijing to sharpen its public rhetoric against New Delhi.

But the Indian defence establishment is undeterred, with its troops holding the militarily stronger position in the area. "Indian Army's border management posture in the region, which includes the Doka La and Nathu La general areas, is geared to cater for any contingency," said another source.

With regard to developments in the Indian Ocean, a Chinese Yuan-class conventional submarine is also prowling the waters, after an operational turnaround in Karachi and backed by support vessel Chongmingdao, since April. This is the seventh Chinese submarine to enter the region—China usually alternates a nuclear submarine with a diesel-electric one — since December 2013, as first reported by TOI in May.

Interestingly, a Chinese intelligence-gathering ship Haiwingxing is also reported to have entered IOR last week to snoop on the India-US-Japan Malabar naval exercise in the Bay of Bengal from next week. China has deployed such ships in the past also to keep tabs on the Malabar exercise, which it suspects is a naval grouping aimed to contain its growing influence.

"The fast pace of construction of the Chinese base and support facility at Djibouti will only add to its capability to sustain its naval units in the IOR," said the source, adding that China's maritime surge in the region might have been planned to dovetail with its push along the sensitive tri-junction area on land.


http://m.timesofindia.com/india/ami...rowl-in-indian-ocean/articleshow/59432702.cms

 

[Kunal Biswas]

155mm upgraded M46 at Army mela at J&K 2017 ..

 

[chex3009]

Amid border stand-off, Chinese ships on prowl in Indian Ocean

This is as predictable as the Chinese can get. One thing to understand here is that the Chinese are playing to their strength - numbers. They are playing the numbers game here where they think they can overwhelm any opponent. But what I don't get is what they are trying to achieve by all this showbaazi/bravado against a formidable opponent like India. This is getting interesting. Or is it the case of "Kahin pe nigaahen kahin pe nishana" for Chinese?

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

del 30000000000000000000000000000000000000

 

[Bloom17]

Why am I banned to like others posts on this thread. I just replied to porki in the language they understand

I don't think you are. I can see you liked the above post

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

I don't think you are. I can see you liked the above post

Ya I guess since the posts were Getting deleted I was unable to like them.

 

[Tarun Kumar]

MOD I suggest we should ban these mad Pakis from polluting our forum

 

[F-14B]

http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/newsi...-listen/ar-BBDJZtB?li=AAaeRVN&ocid=spartandhp

"China is trying its best to use historical lessons to reason with India and show sincerity in peacefully solving the problem, but if India refuses to listen, then China would have no other choice than to use a military way of solving the problem," Hu Zhiyong, a research fellow at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, told the state-run Global Times

really you have to give it to the Chinese they quote " unequal treaties " when it suites them as I have mentioned one of the "historical" lessons that the reds in pinking are quoting is the Calcutta convention of 1890 especially article 3 but the ROC the Predecessor state of the PRC thereby the PRC was delisted of its responsibilities under Article III of the Calcutta convention by the 6 th schedule of the Shimla convention of 1914 between British India ) the lamadom of Tibet and the republic of china

and yet for them the Mac mohan line is also illegal

 

[Akshay Fenix]

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[AmoghaVarsha]

http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/newsi...-listen/ar-BBDJZtB?li=AAaeRVN&ocid=spartandhp


really you have to give it to the Chinese they quote " unequal treaties " when it suites them as I have mentioned one of the "historical" lessons that the reds in pinking are quoting is the Calcutta convention of 1890 especially article 3 but the ROC the Predecessor state of the PRC thereby the PRC was delisted of its responsibilities under Article III of the Calcutta convention by the 6 th schedule of the Shimla convention of 1914 between British India ) the lamadom of Tibet and the republic of china

and yet for them the Mac mohan line is also illegal

Bring it on.3000000000000000000000000

 

[Mikesingh]

In my opinion, I don't think the Chinese are planning a full scale war. What they want to do is to make our Eastern borders as tense as LOC, which will require us to further divide our resources and spread them thin across both the borders. This would greatly hurt our capabilities on the western front, allowing for more infiltration, and a more aggressive pakistan.

I have to disagree with you here. There are dedicated formations for each sector. So there's no question of dividing our resources and spreading them thin along the borders.

In case of reinforcements if and when required, then reserve formations are deployed.

 

[Mikesingh]

....

Chinese reaction after we showed our iron fist to them....

 

[Suryavanshi]

View attachment 17245

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@mod close this thread no need to entertain this Pakistani troll

 

[raheel besharam]

Sikkim standoff: China says situation ‘grave’, no scope for compromise with India

In unusually blunt remarks, China’s ambassador to India Luo Zhaohui said on Tuesday, “the ball is in India’s court” and it was for the Indian government to decide what options could be on the table to resolve the standoff.

Sir i am quoting NDTV Indian News channel source.

are u porki?

 

[Suryavanshi]

Sir i am quoting NDTV Indian News channel source.

Worst thing u could ever do.
It's the job of these presstitutes to overhype stuff that's how they get their mouth stuffed with cash India does it Pakistan does it and the Chinese does it at an even higher level.
NDTV has a agenda to shame and discredit India on ever matter big or small. They have manipulated news to be anti Government, anti National and Anti Hindu on multiple occasion.
It's because of our democracy that we cannot thrash this channel, had it been Russia or China People Like Ravish Kumar Would have been castrated.

NDTV is the last news you should source.

 

[Akshay Fenix]

Chinese reaction after we showed our iron fist to them....View attachment 17248 View attachment 17247 View attachment 17247

Stupid Chinks thought they would eat up more bits and pieces of Bhutan thinking the Indian Army will just sit there watching because of India's dumb NAM policy. Well times have changed.

If India wants to be a super power then India needs to come out of its safe space and protect peaceful non-violent countries from communist scum bags and this is what we did.

Proud of Indian Army soldiers who risked their lives in order to protect the territorial integrity of Bhutan.

July 7-8 is when Modi is going to meet 11 jingping in germany. Lets see what happens.

 

[Kchontha]

Imho Chinese are scared sheet after indian response to their misadventure in Bhutan. These remind me of an old saying. .. a barking dog seldom bite....

 

[itsme]

IMHO Chinese are not to be trusted, this might just be a tactic by them to get the element of surprise when they launch an attack.