LOC, LAC & IB skirmishs

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Should we be concerned about BRs analysis i am sure people out here can take out the crux in an equal if not less proffesional manner.
And for your info chinese are on LEFT .
No sir ITBP is on left side, Colour of chinese fatigues are lighter. Apparently ITBP snatched the chinese flag and the fight started. If chinese would have been beating the crap of ITBP they would not have retreated., Where as orders for Indian are to hold ground.


 

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Curious. I also find the confusion poised by this question curious as well. 50 cents to the man/woman who figures it out. This will entertain me.
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No sir ITBP is on left side, Colour of chinese fatigues are lighter. Apparently ITBP snatched the chinese flag and the fight started. If chinese would have been beating the crap of ITBP they would not have retreated., Where as orders for Indian are to hold ground.


video too leaked by Lt General Prakash Katoch (retd).
 

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No sir ITBP is on left side, Colour of chinese fatigues are lighter. Apparently ITBP snatched the chinese flag and the fight started. If chinese would have been beating the crap of ITBP they would not have retreated., Where as orders for Indian are to hold ground.
Nope. It looks difficult to tell, but those chinese kids on the left side were throwing kicks around and flag was something else. Looks like Indian side did try to capture the flag...didn't work out too well. They were do niave and not aggressive enough. I hope they learn't the lesson. Don't trust the PLA on their words. They will use any tactic, and one should give them the time and day. Poor performance by the IA. The PLA boys were kicking IA jawans around while they were on the ground, being unusually aggressive. Thats a top down order, most likily. But hey, i've been wrong before. But left side definitely is the PLA. The IA was simply too nice to these kids on the border. Time to change the language.
 

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No sir ITBP is on left side, Colour of chinese fatigues are lighter. Apparently ITBP snatched the chinese flag and the fight started. If chinese would have been beating the crap of ITBP they would not have retreated., Where as orders for Indian are to hold ground.


the video was made by itbp man on the hill....the video later leaked by indian side...

there was confusion on the part that it was the chinese who bring red bannar....
no , it was itbp man who use this red bannar , ...
https://www.google.co.in/search?biw=360&bih=559&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=showing+banner+itbp+china&oq=showing+banner+itbp+china&aqs=mobile-gws-lite..#imgrc=tWRMrEg5FmWmlM:
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it was itbp men on the hill , we can got two clues ,
one , the man who made video , is on the hill.
second , the man with red banner jumped in , from the hillside...
so the kungfu kick on the video was by a itbp man ......
 
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the video was made by itbp man on the hill....the video later leaked by indian side...

there was confusion on the part that it was the chinese who bring red bannar....
no , it was itbp man who use this red bannar , ...
https://www.google.co.in/search?biw...a&aqs=mobile-gws-lite..#imgrc=tWRMrEg5FmWmlM:


it was itbp men on the hill , we can got two clues ,
one , the man who made video , is on the hill.
second , the man with red banner jumped in , from the hillside...
so the kungfu kick on the video was by a itbp man ......
Did you watch the vid by shiv? Also the incident happened on the northen side of the lake. That was the Jawans on the left side. They don't teach fancy kicks in IA because they are not as effective as bullets. Not even the US ARMY would win with those kicks. Just use bigger guys, and Kung Fu becomes obsolete just like MMA. The PLA gets more kick training than actual shooting practice. Its a very different training PLA does compared to the IA.
 

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The first two are the pics from DBO standoff. Note the shape & color of the banner, which closely resembles the one from the stoning clip. And the white one belong to us goody goodies, though not sure what lines were written on the white banner in the new clip.

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. Poor performance by the IA. The PLA boys were kicking IA jawans around while they were on the ground, being unusually aggressive. Thats a top down order, most likily. But hey, i've been wrong before. But left side definitely is the PLA. The IA was simply too nice to these kids on the border. Time to change the language.
How many frikkin times do I have to mention that it was NOT the Indian Army involved in this incident but the border police (ITBP).

It's surprising why anyone in uniform is termed as Indian Army!!! The ITBP are CAPF and not Army!
 

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How many frikkin times do I have to mention that it was NOT the Indian Army involved in this incident but the border police (ITBP).

It's surprising why anyone in uniform is termed as Indian Army!!! The ITBP are CAPF and not Army!
My bad. But did the PLA realize this or at this point does it matter? Because a uniform is a uniform. And the jawans got kicked and stoned. Thats not shameful but does point to the problem that needs a stronger hand.
Also until now I though ITBP was full of tibetans.
 

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They also practice yoga. So when on the ground, they were releasing some stress?
Some one else can clarify this? Whos who? Because left side seems like ITBP because of the lack of helmets. PLA all wear their helmets of questionable quality.
 

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After Japan.......

Botswana President Khama blasts China

"We are not your colony."



Khama was speaking to Botswana Guardian in an exclusive interview following weeks of claims and counterclaims over the controversial private visit of The Dalai Lama to Botswana which culminated into an ugly diplomatic row between China and Botswana.

"China engaged in intimidation, they told me things like the Ambassador may be recalled, it would damage relations between Botswana and China, that they would engage other African states to isolate Botswana.

The Dalai Lama is welcome to visit Botswana at any time..."

President Ian Khama wishes the Dalai Lama a “speedy recovery” from the exhaustion he suffers, after which the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader is “welcome to come and visit Botswana.”

Botswana was put under tremendous pressure not to allow the Dalai Lama to visit, but the land locked Southern African middle income country would not budge.

In an exclusive interview with the Botswana Guardian, President Lieutenant General Dr Ian Khama revealed why his government was willing to extend hospitality to the Tibetan spiritual leader.



http://www.botswanaguardian.co.bw/news/item/2761-khama-blasts-china.html

These fookin Chicoms think they own the world. Time they zipper up and stop making a fool of themselves. Morons!
 

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investment into china will start to fall in the coming months
:popcorn:

There are more than a few, moreover, who are sceptical of the combat qualities of this new cohort of PLA officers — products of China’s one-child policy, which spawned a generation derisively referred to as “Little Emperors”. PLA newspapers are replete with stories of new recruits using boarding-school tricks like spitting out red ink to avoid training.:rofl::rofl:

“I’d hide under my blanket and cry every night,” former cadet Sun Youpeng, who joined the PLA after graduating from university at the age of 22, told Minnie Chan of the South China Morning Post in 2014.

Liu Mingfu, a scholar at China’s National Defence University, estimated in a 2012 report that 70% of the PLA’s troops were only sons — a number rising to 80% among combat troops. In a country with a growing cohort of aged people, with ancient cultural norms against sending only sons to war, the consequences could be significant, Liu noted.



Paul Dibbs, an Australian defence expert, points out the country’s state-of-the-art Type 95 submarines will only be as stealthy as the 1980s Soviet titanium-hulled Akula-class. China’s Dong Feng 21D anti-ship ballistic missile has yet to hit a target moving at realistic speeds. Large parts of the Air Force and Navy are still made up of obsolescent types.

“Let our field armies touch the buttocks of a tiger,” China’s Paramount Leader Deng Xiaoping reportedly said as he ordered the military to action in 1984, hoping to blood his troops and demonstrate “our military is still good enough”. The truth, however, was that Deng’s own economic reforms had brought about a crisis in the PLA. Xiaoming Zhang’s magisterial history of the China-Vietnam war notes that fewer soldiers joined the army during that decade than at any previous time — and were less than willing to die.


:rofl::rofl:In some cases, the crisis of morale bred low farce: elements of the 67th Army, on their way out of Laoshan, demanded $ 1,500 from their 47th Army replacements for all intelligence on enemy positions and firepower. In another case, an armoured unit which did not receive care packages despatched its tanks to surround an infantry division headquarters and demand its share.:rofl::rofl:




On the disaster that followed this hubris, the historian Thucydides wrote: “Sicily would fear us most if we never went there at all.” This, he explained, was because “that which is farthest off, and the reputation of which can least be tested, is the object of admiration”.

For China’s strategic community, these ought be words to ponder: in war, unlike films, the end of the story is impossible to script.'''

http://indianexpress.com/article/ex...sessing-chinas-strength-india-sikkim-4796971/
 
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