LOC, LAC & IB skirmishs

[mayfair]

You know who has even more money to piss and burn per capita? The Saudis. What's going to happen to them, I wonder, in a couple of decades.

The difference is that Saudis sell raw produce, Chinese manufacture and sell finished goods. Saudis cannot even refine their produce without the West, they have no local talent base so to speak, they are dependent on Western advisors for everything- Economics, sovereign funds, infrastructure etc.

Chinese on the other hand are making rapid strides in expanding their knowledge base. One only need to take a look at the scientific papers being published from there-in every major journal, there are papers from a Chinese research group. One may argue that Soviets and the Communist block countries were doing the same and it's true, but unlike China these countries had no trade relations with the West. One may argue, the West was much stronger then.

Of course the manufacturers will show signs of walking away to cheaper destinations but so far there are little signs of this happening on a large scale. Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand etc are seeing an influx of companies, but it's a trickle, since these countries cannot really absorb much.

We in India have been trying to entice big players to set up manufacturing here, but we have had limited successes.

For the foreseeable future, China will remain a manufacturing power house. Of curse, in their zeal they put up excess capacities and now are suffering from over-production, especially since the world economy took a turn for the worse.

But still they are able to run a trade surplus against almost every country in the world, which means more money is coming in than is going out.

Now they also have access to wealth and trade of Hong Kong and Macau. A lot of money flows in and out of these two places.

Of course, their fundamental flaw is that their attempt to control everything in there, especially news and information. How long will that work and how long before the dam bursts, remains to be seen.

 

[bennedose]

@bennedose can you please post your videos that you have made to locate Chinese military installation located at LAC and IB with China.

Chinese military installations near the border with India

 

[Why so serious?]

China claims India pulled out most troops from Doklam; govt denies
Saibal Dasgupta & Rajat Pandit | TNN | 7 hour

HIGHLIGHTS

• Senior govt officials asserted that there was a "status quo" at the Doklam for past six weeks.
• The rebuttal came after China claimed that the number of Indian troops was reduced to 40 by end of July from 400 in June.
• Sources maintain that around 350 personnel have been in Doklam for the last six weeks.

NEW DELHI/BEIJING: India has not pulled back troops from the Doklam face-off with the People's Liberation Army, sources said, flatly rejecting China's claim that the number of Indian soldiers at the actual confrontation site had gone down from 400 to just over 40 by July-end.

The Chinese foreign ministry, through a 15-page statement with maps, photographs and documents on Wednesday, seemed to give the impression that the Doklam crisis in Bhutanese territory near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet trijunction had finally begun to de-escalate with India backing down from the confrontation after 45 long days.

The statement, which came after national security advisor Ajit Doval recently held talks with his counterpart Yang Jiechi in Beijing, also sought to drive a clear wedge between India and Bhutan. It said the "illegal action" by "trespassing" Indian soldiers "not only violated China's territorial sovereignty but also challenged Bhutan's sovereignty and independence".

But brushing all this aside, Indian sources stressed China had unilaterally broken the status quo by trying to construct a motorable road in the Doklam area, which was physically blocked by Indian troops on June 18. They said this violated the 2012 pact between their two special representatives that the trijunction boundary points would be finalised in consultation with Bhutan.

The lengthy Chinese statement seemed to be an attempt to assuage hawkish sentiments at home and prepare the ground for what will eventually be a mutual troop withdrawal, while also trying to sell to the international community that India was the real aggressor in the Doklam dispute. "India, in fact, came to Bhutan's aid to prevent China from bullying the tiny country," said a source.

Around 300-350 Indian troops, with two bulldozers, continue to maintain their "non-aggressive" vigil at the actual face-off site in the Doklam area, which is located at an altitude of over 11,000 feet. "There has been no troop reduction by India on the ground. Around the same number of PLA troops are present at the face-off site. Both sides have pitched tents at a distance of 120-150 meters from each other across the Torsa Nala. But there is no gun-pointing or animosity between the rival troops," the source said.

Apart from the over 6,000 soldiers already deployed under two formations (63 and 112 Brigades) in east and north-east Sikkim, the Indian Army has also moved up another 2,500 soldiers from the 164 Brigade to Zuluk and Nathang Valley in the state as reinforcements, as was first reported by TOI.

The Chinese foreign ministry, on its part, claimed Beijing had "notified India in advance in full reflection of China's goodwill" before it started the road building activity on June 16. But Beijing also seemed to be changing tack by saying the dispute was between China and Bhutan, and India had nothing to do with it. It had earlier projected the Doklam issue as an India-China tussle to avoid being accused of grabbing territory from a small country.

"The China-Bhutan boundary issue is one between China and Bhutan. It has nothing to do with India. As a third party, India has no right to interfere in or impede the boundary talks between China and Bhutan, still less the right to make territorial claims on Bhutan's behalf," it said.

China took the rare step of using a non-paper (a discussion paper, not a formal agreement) of the May 2006 India-China boundary talks as proof that the two countries had already agreed to a border alignment in the Sikkim region. In doing so, said sources, Beijing may have violated the principle of secrecy by making public a sensitive issue pertaining to the boundary negotiations among special representatives of the two countries.

The Chinese ministry said, "The fact of the matter is that it is India which has attempted time and again to change the status quo of the China-India boundary in the Sikkim sector, which poses a grave security threat to China."

The action by Indian troops to block the road construction in an area where there is "a clear and delimited boundary" is "fundamentally different from past frictions between the border troops of the two sides in areas with un-delimited boundary (the Line of Actual Control)", said the statement. It also accused India of trying to "invent various excuses to justify its illegal action". India's "arguments have no factual or legal grounds at all and are simply untenable," it said.


LYING COWARD'S

 

[square]

China claims India pulled out most troops from Doklam; govt denies
Saibal Dasgupta & Rajat Pandit | TNN | 7 hour

HIGHLIGHTS

• Senior govt officials asserted that there was a "status quo" at the Doklam for past six weeks.
• The rebuttal came after China claimed that the number of Indian troops was reduced to 40 by end of July from 400 in June.
• Sources maintain that around 350 personnel have been in Doklam for the last six weeks.

NEW DELHI/BEIJING: India has not pulled back troops from the Doklam face-off with the People's Liberation Army, sources said, flatly rejecting China's claim that the number of Indian soldiers at the actual confrontation site had gone down from 400 to just over 40 by July-end.

The Chinese foreign ministry, through a 15-page statement with maps, photographs and documents on Wednesday, seemed to give the impression that the Doklam crisis in Bhutanese territory near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet trijunction had finally begun to de-escalate with India backing down from the confrontation after 45 long days.

The statement, which came after national security advisor Ajit Doval recently held talks with his counterpart Yang Jiechi in Beijing, also sought to drive a clear wedge between India and Bhutan. It said the "illegal action" by "trespassing" Indian soldiers "not only violated China's territorial sovereignty but also challenged Bhutan's sovereignty and independence".

But brushing all this aside, Indian sources stressed China had unilaterally broken the status quo by trying to construct a motorable road in the Doklam area, which was physically blocked by Indian troops on June 18. They said this violated the 2012 pact between their two special representatives that the trijunction boundary points would be finalised in consultation with Bhutan.

The lengthy Chinese statement seemed to be an attempt to assuage hawkish sentiments at home and prepare the ground for what will eventually be a mutual troop withdrawal, while also trying to sell to the international community that India was the real aggressor in the Doklam dispute. "India, in fact, came to Bhutan's aid to prevent China from bullying the tiny country," said a source.

Around 300-350 Indian troops, with two bulldozers, continue to maintain their "non-aggressive" vigil at the actual face-off site in the Doklam area, which is located at an altitude of over 11,000 feet. "There has been no troop reduction by India on the ground. Around the same number of PLA troops are present at the face-off site. Both sides have pitched tents at a distance of 120-150 meters from each other across the Torsa Nala. But there is no gun-pointing or animosity between the rival troops," the source said.

Apart from the over 6,000 soldiers already deployed under two formations (63 and 112 Brigades) in east and north-east Sikkim, the Indian Army has also moved up another 2,500 soldiers from the 164 Brigade to Zuluk and Nathang Valley in the state as reinforcements, as was first reported by TOI.

The Chinese foreign ministry, on its part, claimed Beijing had "notified India in advance in full reflection of China's goodwill" before it started the road building activity on June 16. But Beijing also seemed to be changing tack by saying the dispute was between China and Bhutan, and India had nothing to do with it. It had earlier projected the Doklam issue as an India-China tussle to avoid being accused of grabbing territory from a small country.

"The China-Bhutan boundary issue is one between China and Bhutan. It has nothing to do with India. As a third party, India has no right to interfere in or impede the boundary talks between China and Bhutan, still less the right to make territorial claims on Bhutan's behalf," it said.

China took the rare step of using a non-paper (a discussion paper, not a formal agreement) of the May 2006 India-China boundary talks as proof that the two countries had already agreed to a border alignment in the Sikkim region. In doing so, said sources, Beijing may have violated the principle of secrecy by making public a sensitive issue pertaining to the boundary negotiations among special representatives of the two countries.

The Chinese ministry said, "The fact of the matter is that it is India which has attempted time and again to change the status quo of the China-India boundary in the Sikkim sector, which poses a grave security threat to China."

The action by Indian troops to block the road construction in an area where there is "a clear and delimited boundary" is "fundamentally different from past frictions between the border troops of the two sides in areas with un-delimited boundary (the Line of Actual Control)", said the statement. It also accused India of trying to "invent various excuses to justify its illegal action". India's "arguments have no factual or legal grounds at all and are simply untenable," it said.


LYING COWARD'S

chinese are struck......
all they need now , a face saver !!!

 

[tharun]

Chinese military installations near the border with India

Thank you for the videos and the patience.
A small suggestion use the word altitude rather than air.Places are located at x meters in high altitude rather than at x meters in air.

 

[mayfair]

@bennedose

Shiv saar, you should post more often here like you do on BRF.

 

[Mikesingh]

India Stands By Ajit Doval Statement, Gives Strong Response To China
Team Republic | 8 hours ago

China had begun to move thousands of troops and tonnes of military equipment and supplies into the area, escalating the issue. Despite China's firm stance, however, India has reaffirmed that its resolve is undeterred and it will stand by the demand for the road to be moved back before troops can be withdrawn from the disputed area.

This is bullshit! Chinese troops and equipment were moved for an exercise more than a thousand kms away. It was nothing to do with the Doklam stand-off! The media loves to exaggerate and sensationalise stuff for ratings.

 

[Kazah]

NIA ne bola trade band karo and BJP-PDP ne phir se khulwa diya

 

[IndianHawk]

NIA ne bola trade band karo and BJP-PDP ne phir se khulwa diya

Pok Milana hai to pok walo ko patana b to padega.

 

[Why so serious?]

By refusing to buckle under China’s threats on Doklam, India has called the bully’s bluff
August 3, 2017, 2:00 AM IST Brahma Chellaney in TOI Edit Page | Edit Page, India,World | TOI

Standing on the Himalayan crest with well-developed infrastructure, China is in a militarily advantageous position along much of the border with India. The tri-border overlooking the Chinese-held Chumbi valley is one of the few areas where India still holds a distinct advantage, with Chinese forces within Indian observation cum artillery range. If China were to capture Bhutan’s high-altitude Doklam plateau, it would not only mitigate that vulnerability but also hold a knife to India’s jugular vein – the Siliguri Corridor, through which Bhutan’s communications and transportation arteries also pass.

While existential stakes drove India to halt China’s construction of a strategic highway through Doklam, Beijing made a serious strategic miscalculation by intruding there: It anticipated Bhutan’s diplomatic protest but not India’s swift, stealthy military intervention. The Indian army had long geared up to respond to such a contingency.

No Indian government can countenance the construction of a road through Doklam that allows China to bring main battle tanks to the tri-border and implement, in the event of a war, its military plan to decapitate India. In such a corridor-bisecting scenario, while China gobbles up Arunachal Pradesh, the other northeast Indian states, as a Chinese state mouthpiece warned recently, could become “independent”.

Today, thanks to its miscalculation, China finds itself in an unenviable position: It must extricate itself from a militarily wretched situation in Doklam, where its intruding soldiers are caught in a pincer movement. If China were to initiate hostilities at the tri-border, it will likely be left, as in 1967, with a bloodied nose, given the Indian army’s terrain and tactical advantages.

Politically Beijing has boxed itself in a corner, with its intense psychological warfare (“psywar”) and disinformation operations failing to yield continuing gains, after the success in initially dominating the narrative. If anything, its psychological operations (“psy-ops”) and manipulation of legal arguments (“lawfare”), as by selectively quoting an 1890 colonial-era accord, offer India important lessons. It is standard Chinese strategy to play the victim in any conflict or dispute, as China brazenly did even in 1962.

Mounting frustration has sharpened Beijing’s war rhetoric. To compound matters, the standoff is imposing reputational costs on a power that supposedly brooks no challenge and is ever willing to wreak punishment. India, in the face of vitriolic warmongering, has defiantly stood up to China and refused to budge. By calling the bully’s bluff, India has set an example for other Asian states to emulate.

Beijing’s story that Indian troops “trespassed” into Chinese territory was designed to disguise its intrusion into tiny Bhutan. But this tale, along with President Xi Jinping’s vow not to permit the loss of “any piece” of Chinese land, deepens China’s discomfiture by undermining the image it has sought to project at home and abroad – Asia’s pre-eminent power that no neighbour will mess with.

In sum China, if it is to save face, needs India’s help to extricate itself from a mess of its own making. Beijing’s coarse statements and threats, while integral to its psywar, are also part of a negotiating ploy to secure a compromise on largely its terms.

There is no reason, however, why India should let China off the hook easily. With Xi looking ahead to this autumn’s Communist Party congress to cement his status as China’s most powerful leader since Mao Zedong, India should play psychological hardball because Chinese incursions have become increasingly recurrent.

India should allow the Doklam military stalemate to drag on until the arrival of the harsh winter forces the rival troops to retreat, thus restoring the status quo ante, including frustrating China’s road-building plan. If an earlier negotiated mutual retreat from Doklam becomes possible, it should be based on an unequivocal assurance that China henceforth will refrain from unilaterally disturbing the territorial status quo anywhere in the Himalayan borderlands.

Implicitly, if not explicitly, China must come out a significant loser in order to help rein in its creeping, covert encroachments. There should be no more Depsangs, Chumars and Doklams or the quiet chipping away at Indian and Bhutanese lands.

 

[Flame Thrower]

By refusing to buckle under China’s threats on Doklam, India has called the bully’s bluff

Bhai, the CCP bluff will be 100% called off only in 2 cases, but none of them seems to be possible.

Case 1: Fight with PLAGF, give it a bloddy nose and maybe capturing Aksai Chin. This will also end with China as super power in the Asia. Will help us get into NSG maybe UNSC. This will also come at a high cost and we are willing to pay the price (our brave hearts are literally itching for this opportunity). But there is a very remote chances for all of this to happen. Because, it seems that PLAGF is not willing to fight. This brings us to Case 2.

Case 2: Since CCP asks for a facesaver and India will most likely agree, as we might think that we have achieved our mission (Mission: To give a clear sign that India can oppose China, increase our importance in ASEAN countries). This is where we need to pitch in our (GOI) propaganda machine, to show the whole world what had actually happened. In short, we have to out perform the Chinese Propaganda machine. Sadly, there is no way we can out perform the Chinese propaganda machine. On contrary, CCP paid media outlets(including some of Indian) will cry out loud that Dragon had shown mercy on us. CPI(M), will scold GOI for its stupid policy for almost bringing India closer to being Annihilated by the PLA nuclear force. Pak, which always buys Anti India stuff will become more courageous.

Though world understands what had happened, it will still be a bit skeptical on both India and Chinese capabilities. Thus China escapes with almost no injuries.

This drama might come to end by late October to early November.

 

[square]

By refusing to buckle under China’s threats on Doklam, India has called the bully’s bluff
August 3, 2017, 2:00 AM IST Brahma Chellaney in TOI Edit Page | Edit Page, India,World | TOI

Standing on the Himalayan crest with well-developed infrastructure, China is in a militarily advantageous position along much of the border with India. The tri-border overlooking the Chinese-held Chumbi valley is one of the few areas where India still holds a distinct advantage, with Chinese forces within Indian observation cum artillery range. If China were to capture Bhutan’s high-altitude Doklam plateau, it would not only mitigate that vulnerability but also hold a knife to India’s jugular vein – the Siliguri Corridor, through which Bhutan’s communications and transportation arteries also pass.

While existential stakes drove India to halt China’s construction of a strategic highway through Doklam, Beijing made a serious strategic miscalculation by intruding there: It anticipated Bhutan’s diplomatic protest but not India’s swift, stealthy military intervention. The Indian army had long geared up to respond to such a contingency.

No Indian government can countenance the construction of a road through Doklam that allows China to bring main battle tanks to the tri-border and implement, in the event of a war, its military plan to decapitate India. In such a corridor-bisecting scenario, while China gobbles up Arunachal Pradesh, the other northeast Indian states, as a Chinese state mouthpiece warned recently, could become “independent”.

Today, thanks to its miscalculation, China finds itself in an unenviable position: It must extricate itself from a militarily wretched situation in Doklam, where its intruding soldiers are caught in a pincer movement. If China were to initiate hostilities at the tri-border, it will likely be left, as in 1967, with a bloodied nose, given the Indian army’s terrain and tactical advantages.

Politically Beijing has boxed itself in a corner, with its intense psychological warfare (“psywar”) and disinformation operations failing to yield continuing gains, after the success in initially dominating the narrative. If anything, its psychological operations (“psy-ops”) and manipulation of legal arguments (“lawfare”), as by selectively quoting an 1890 colonial-era accord, offer India important lessons. It is standard Chinese strategy to play the victim in any conflict or dispute, as China brazenly did even in 1962.

Mounting frustration has sharpened Beijing’s war rhetoric. To compound matters, the standoff is imposing reputational costs on a power that supposedly brooks no challenge and is ever willing to wreak punishment. India, in the face of vitriolic warmongering, has defiantly stood up to China and refused to budge. By calling the bully’s bluff, India has set an example for other Asian states to emulate.

Beijing’s story that Indian troops “trespassed” into Chinese territory was designed to disguise its intrusion into tiny Bhutan. But this tale, along with President Xi Jinping’s vow not to permit the loss of “any piece” of Chinese land, deepens China’s discomfiture by undermining the image it has sought to project at home and abroad – Asia’s pre-eminent power that no neighbour will mess with.

In sum China, if it is to save face, needs India’s help to extricate itself from a mess of its own making. Beijing’s coarse statements and threats, while integral to its psywar, are also part of a negotiating ploy to secure a compromise on largely its terms.

There is no reason, however, why India should let China off the hook easily. With Xi looking ahead to this autumn’s Communist Party congress to cement his status as China’s most powerful leader since Mao Zedong, India should play psychological hardball because Chinese incursions have become increasingly recurrent.

India should allow the Doklam military stalemate to drag on until the arrival of the harsh winter forces the rival troops to retreat, thus restoring the status quo ante, including frustrating China’s road-building plan. If an earlier negotiated mutual retreat from Doklam becomes possible, it should be based on an unequivocal assurance that China henceforth will refrain from unilaterally disturbing the territorial status quo anywhere in the Himalayan borderlands.

Implicitly, if not explicitly, China must come out a significant loser in order to help rein in its creeping, covert encroachments. There should be no more Depsangs, Chumars and Doklams or the quiet chipping away at Indian and Bhutanese lands.

ho ho....amjad khan wearing red too !!!
what a coincident.

 

[square]

ll India | Press Trust of India | Updated: August 03, 2017


China has repeatedly been blocking a India's bid to declare Masood Azhar as a UN designated terrorist

 

[Why so serious?]

Bhai, the CCP bluff will be 100% called off only in 2 cases, but none of them seems to be possible.

Case 1: Fight with PLAGF, give it a bloddy nose and maybe capturing Aksai Chin. This will also end with China as super power in the Asia. Will help us get into NSG maybe UNSC. This will also come at a high cost and we are willing to pay the price (our brave hearts are literally itching for this opportunity). But there is a very remote chances for all of this to happen. Because, it seems that PLAGF is not willing to fight. This brings us to Case 2.

Case 2: Since CCP asks for a facesaver and India will most likely agree, as we might think that we have achieved our mission (Mission: To give a clear sign that India can oppose China, increase our importance in ASEAN countries). This is where we need to pitch in our (GOI) propaganda machine, to show the whole world what had actually happened. In short, we have to out perform the Chinese Propaganda machine. Sadly, there is no way we can out perform the Chinese propaganda machine. On contrary, CCP paid media outlets(including some of Indian) will cry out loud that Dragon had shown mercy on us. CPI(M), will scold GOI for its stupid policy for almost bringing India closer to being Annihilated by the PLA nuclear force. Pak, which always buys Anti India stuff will become more courageous.

Though world understands what had happened, it will still be a bit skeptical on both India and Chinese capabilities. Thus China escapes with almost no injuries.

This drama might come to end by late October to early November.

Bhai lekin ek baat to clear Hai , kuta (China) aur uska pilla (paki) dono sirf bhaunk sakte Hai kaatne ke liye dum nahi Hai.

 

[sorcerer]

Dujana buried silently in Baramulla



PULWAMA, Aug 2: Abu Dujana, the most wanted LeT commander who was killed along with his local associate Arif Lelhari in a gunfight with forces in Pulwama district was quietly buried in a graveyard used for the burial of non-local militants in an unspecified area of northern Baramulla district.

Jammu and Kashmir police had on Tuesday asked Pakistani High Commission to claim the body of Dujana.

"We have approached Pakistan High Commission to claim his body. If Pakistan refuses to claim his body state authorities will give a proper burial to him," Inspector General of Police told reporters at a press conference.

Official sources said that after receiving no response from the Pakistan High Commission until late evening, police authorities buried Dujana at around 1 am last night.

They said that some locals living near the graveyard and some policemen dug the grave and buried the slain militant commander, who police said was a resident of Gilgit-Baltistan area of Pakistan.

"Before being buried funeral prayer was offered for the slain militant," sources said.

A police official confirmed the burial of Dujana at Gantamulla.

After the killing of Pakistani militant Abu Qasim in whose funeral thousands of people participated, police started burying the non-local militants in the said graveyard. Over 40 non-local militants, sources said, lie buried in the graveyard.




http://www.kashmirtimes.in/newsdet.aspx?q=69832

gutless pakis dont even claim the body of fellow muslim.

 

[F-14B]

Dujana buried silently in Baramulla



PULWAMA, Aug 2: Abu Dujana, the most wanted LeT commander who was killed along with his local associate Arif Lelhari in a gunfight with forces in Pulwama district was quietly buried in a graveyard used for the burial of non-local militants in an unspecified area of northern Baramulla district.

Jammu and Kashmir police had on Tuesday asked Pakistani High Commission to claim the body of Dujana.

"We have approached Pakistan High Commission to claim his body. If Pakistan refuses to claim his body state authorities will give a proper burial to him," Inspector General of Police told reporters at a press conference.

Official sources said that after receiving no response from the Pakistan High Commission until late evening, police authorities buried Dujana at around 1 am last night.

They said that some locals living near the graveyard and some policemen dug the grave and buried the slain militant commander, who police said was a resident of Gilgit-Baltistan area of Pakistan.

"Before being buried funeral prayer was offered for the slain militant," sources said.

A police official confirmed the burial of Dujana at Gantamulla.

After the killing of Pakistani militant Abu Qasim in whose funeral thousands of people participated, police started burying the non-local militants in the said graveyard. Over 40 non-local militants, sources said, lie buried in the graveyard.




http://www.kashmirtimes.in/newsdet.aspx?q=69832

gutless pakis dont even claim the body of fellow muslim.

yarr jho apna hud ka soldiers ka body claim nahi karaga vo kaya ien pigs ka karaga

 

[captscooby81]

War Cannot Resolve Problems, Solution Lies in Diplomacy, Says Sushma

"We have a strong Army but war is not a solution. The diplomatic channels are at work with China,"

China's action in Doklam is of concern to us. The Chinese is selectively quotes PM Jawaharlal Nehru's letter. Peace and tranquillity with China is important. Doklam can be resolved through bilateral talks,"

"POK is an integral part of India. Entire Kashmir is ours," says Sushma Swaraj in Rajya Sabha.

 

[sorcerer]

Abu Dujana Encounter, Confession Tape Exposing Pakistan

 

[Tshering22]

They know the entire 7th fleet will land up at their back door; nothing will happen, only crying and psyop trials.

Trump won't do squat. Although let their planners decide that.

USA is getting out of Asia. Unless we take adequate steps for self defence We won't have much room to maneuver.

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[Tshering22]

Who says they are all alone? More than half the presstitutes, most of the commies and a significant chunk of opposition polity in India has been batting for the Chinese- subtly or not so subtly.

Likewise, with many "independent" western "intellectuals".

If someone's standing alone it's India. Regardless of the lip service of support that people claim is coming from around the world, when the push comes to shove, India will be standing alone against the PRC, just like Vietnam stood alone against PRC in 1979. Do not expect that like the West came to Israel's aid in 1967 and 1973,they'll come to ours. No one will come to our support- Not US, Not Russia, Not Japan, Not Israel, Not France, Not UK.

At most we may get some outdated, low resolution sat pics that's all.

Well said. No one will come.

We need to fight oir own war and be ready.

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