Yes true, but why & what ? and its freeStill it's nothing, 6m$ per jet will barely cover some engine parts and airframe replacements.
Best guess, to keep paf f16 alive, mainly old models
Yes true, but why & what ? and its freeStill it's nothing, 6m$ per jet will barely cover some engine parts and airframe replacements.
the upgraded/ newer model of the conventional mechanical scanning radar...we barely saw any so called PESA on American/Western fighters, Rafale early batches is the exceptionAlso paf upgraded all f16 with pesa
Might be because india was purchasing alot of cheap sanctioned Russian oil which has Ukrainian bloodYes true, but why & what ? and its free
Best guess, to keep paf f16 alive, mainly old models
PAF upgraded their f16 at least 3 timesAgain dude all f16 of Pakistan have pulse Doppler radars no pesa radar nothing.. biggest downside to pulse Doppler is they can't detect perpendicular flying objects either flying towards You and going forward..
But they are not that capable compared to j10 atleast on paper.. most importantly what will they of that if there missile have expired 4.years ago I mean shelf life of there missile is already over..PAF upgraded their f16 at least 3 times
F5 is not a 4th gen fighter by any means. F-16 block 15 is barely 4th gen fighter. More like 3+++ gen fighter.What ??
All f16 are 4th gen
US 4th gen fighter jets - f5,f15, f16, f18
4.5gen - f18sh
5th gen - f22,f35
Now you are changing the entire subjectBut they are not that capable compared to j10 atleast on paper.. most importantly what will they of that if there missile have expired 4.years ago I mean shelf life of there missile is already over..
No, its 4genF5 is not a 4th gen fighter by any means. F-16 block 15 is barely 4th gen fighter. More like 3+++ gen fighter.
On what basis u said lca Tejas mk1A is 4.5 generation because I when i see differences between 4 gen and rafale I find 4.5 gen aircrafts have MAWS, INTERNAL EW jammers , spectra like systems. Forward looking Infrared Search & track , and some other things which I don't find in LCA , indeed we have developed all such techs but lca cannot accomodate them ,mwf /Tejas mk2 will have it.. lca is 4+ gen aircraftsNo, its 4gen
For ex- F35 is a 5.5 gen, but currently having issues and all flying ioc version
By design f16 is 4gen and lca is 4.5 gen, but fighter jet development is a complex process
Its not US fault japan developed 4.5 gen with aesa tech and EU developed 4.5 gen insisted of 5gen
Don't f22 use GaAs and consider it as 5th gen, not 4.5 th gen
Biggest difference b/w 3rd & 4th are FCS not the sensor
You can upgrade mig21 or f4 with aesa tech, but still its considered as 3rd gen or 3+++ gen
That is not how fighter jet gen is classifiedOn what basis u said lca Tejas mk1A is 4.5 generation because I when i see differences between 4 gen and rafale I find 4.5 gen aircrafts have MAWS, INTERNAL EW jammers , spectra like systems. Forward looking Infrared Search & track , and some other things which I don't find in LCA , mwf /Tejas mk2 will have it.. lca is 4+ gen aircrafts
Why why why you only considering rafale, why not eft, jas, sh, su35. mig35, f2 etcOn what basis u said lca Tejas mk1A is 4.5 generation because I when i see differences between 4 gen and rafale I find 4.5 gen aircrafts have MAWS, INTERNAL EW jammers , spectra like systems. Forward looking Infrared Search & track , and some other things which I don't find in LCA , indeed we have developed all such techs but lca cannot accomodate them ,mwf /Tejas mk2 will have it.. lca is 4+ gen aircrafts
First go learn something, everytime comes with wrong information to argueThat is not how fighter jet gen is classified
Its mainly based on engines and FCS
Initial batch of all gen uses previous gen sensors
LCA comes with DFCS, FBW, relaxed stability, mfd and composition airframe etc make its 4.5 gen, and easy to upgrade next gen tech
Simply look now fast HAL developed mk1a from foc, just within 5 years
LOL - LOL - WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE EXCEPTING FROM A LIGHT AIRCRAFT, F15EX LIKE FEATHERS
Lca already having ew suite like normal mki and majority of mki/su35 lacks INTERNAL EW jammers , spectra like systems and majority of mki lacks dc maws
LCA is a 4.5 gen using 4th gen suite and jf17 is a 4th gen using 4/4.5th gen suit
Important point is - US IS A UNRELIABLE PARTNER/ALLAY
Only 60 to 100 mki having dc maws and majority of mki lacks drdo dc mawsFirst go learn something, everytime comes with wrong information to argue
Su30mki has MAWS
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There are some 4 gen aircrafts like f16 block60/62 which has rss design, fly by wire systems,multi functional display, DFCS is it digital flight control systems) will they be called as 4.5 generation or actual 4.5 generation who has all this thing with MAWS , sensors fusion, FLIR et etc aircraft who has this is called a 4.5 gen aircraft. And they are rafale typhoon...That is not how fighter jet gen is classified
Its mainly based on engines and FCS
Initial batch of all gen uses previous gen sensors
LCA comes with DFCS, FBW, relaxed stability, mfd and composition airframe etc make its 4.5 gen, and easy to upgrade next gen tech
Simply look now fast HAL developed mk1a from foc, just within 5 years
LOL - LOL - WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE EXCEPTING FROM A LIGHT AIRCRAFT, F15EX LIKE FEATHERS
Lca already having ew suite like normal mki and majority of mki/su35 lacks INTERNAL EW jammers , spectra like systems and majority of mki lacks dc maws
LCA is a 4.5 gen using 4th gen suite and jf17 is a 4th gen using 4/4.5th gen suit
Important point is - US IS A UNRELIABLE PARTNER/ALLAY
Super Sukhoi upgrade is thereOnly 60 to 100 mki having dc maws and majority of mki lacks drdo dc maws
majority = a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
Very funnySuper Sukhoi upgrade is there
WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE EXCEPTING FROM A LIGHT AIRCRAFT, F15EX LIKE FEATHERS
Discussion was why Tejas is not a 4.5 generation and it's not you yourself said it. It does lack capabilities which so called 4.5 gen aircrafts seems to have whereas Tejas is considered as 4++ gen aircrafts
करु बहियां बल आपनी, छोड़ बिरानी आस।Partnering with US companies is almost equivalent to trading your soul with the devil. Everything they do has ulterior motives. Heavy reliance on the US industries will almost certainly destroy India's indigenous defense capabilities, which I suspect is what the US wants.
While at my job, apart from being refused to witness the blade fitment process, we were not even allowed to see things as essential as the alignment of the shaft assembly or even provided with a basic manual describing what was what.
Essentially everything was a black box to us, we just learned to start the turbine and clean the ducts and the coolers and I suspect this is what might be happening with weapon systems being provided to the Indian military.
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