I shouldn't have neglected to mention one of the real major successes of DRDO- missiles. Agni 1,2,3, Prithvi 1,2,3 Akash, all deployed. Plus totally successful tests of Agni-4 and Agni-5, plus ASAT test.
LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion
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HAL Marut was indigenously developed in the '60s. Then derailed and Mig21 bought instead. Arjun tank saga, same story. It's sad.
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It was Jaguar which replaced marut.
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Here is a dedicated thread for you ... check few pages
DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News
Found this in a OFB annual report. what is HEEB Ammunition? High Explosive Extended-Range Base-Bleed.
Opportunity for LCA- trainer??
US Air Force considers leasing trainer jets that lost the T-X competition
Valerie Insinna
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Air Force wants to lease advanced trainers as early as next summer while it waits for Boeing’s T-7 Red Hawk, creating an opportunity for the two training jets that lost out to the Red Hawk during the T-X competition.
The Air Force intends to open a competition for trainer jets that would help it test out a new training concept called “Rebuilding the Forge,” or “Reforge,” said Air Combat Command head Gen. Mike Holmes on June 22. The concept is meant to speed up the time it takes to produce an experienced pilot.
The service initially intended to lease T-50 jets — originally made by Korea Aerospace Industries — from Hillwood Aviation, according to a sources-sought solicitation released in January. But since then, other companies have expressed a desire to bid on the opportunity, called RFX, and Holmes confirmed that the Air Force plans to allow outside firms to propose alternative options.
“In our initial market research, there was some thought that there might be only one airplane there was going to be bid against it. But as we did more market research, we found out that there were multiple people that wanted to bid, and they were going to bid with a couple of different airplanes at least,” Holmes told reporters during an event hosted by the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies.
“Certainly competition is in our interest, so we want to have that competition to see who can come in and at an affordable cost. And frankly, our budgets are tight,” he added.
The goal of Reforge, Holmes said, is to produce experienced fighter pilots without having to put operators through the “basic course” currently required by any student who has never flown a fighter.
“We proposed to lease some airplanes while we’re waiting on the T-7 to arrive and do some experiments along with AETC [Air Education and Training Command] to try to figure out what’s the best use of this new T-7 that we’re going to buy,” Holmes said. “We think taking advantage of the capabilities of that new trainer along with the [virtual] training systems that AETC has previewed and premiered give us a great opportunity to meet the requirements of the [pilot] shortage that we have in the fastest, best way.”
Holmes added that if no single company comes in with an affordable proposal, the Air Force may back away from the leasing idea.
The service is still refining the specifics of its leasing strategy, but Holmes said the hope is to lease upward of 11 planes starting in the summer of 2021. The original solicitation stated that it could lease anywhere from four to eight trainers to provide approximately 4,500 flight hours annually for about five years.
Opening up RFX could make way for the third entrant in the T-X competition — Italian defense company Leonardo’s M346 Master — to butt heads against the T-50 once again.
In March, Texas-based aviation company Mission Support Systems told Aviation Week that it hoped to propose a version of the M-346 that would, within a year, be integrated with a radar from Leonardo’s GRIFO radar series. However, Air Combat Command expressed a preference for the T-50, which already is equipped with a radar.
If the Reforge concept proves successful, the Air Force may find itself with a requirement in excess of the 351 jets that are planned to be procured in the T-7 Red Hawk program of record. Those T-7s may have different specifications than the Red Hawks used for undergraduate pilot training and could end up becoming a separate variant of the aircraft, Air Force Magazine reported.
Holmes said that while the T-7 is “a great airplane,” it’s possible for Boeing and its partner, Swedish defense firm Saab, to accelerate the program quickly enough to use the Red Hawk for the Reforge proof of concept.
“It’s several years away from us getting their hands on it,” he said. “Boeing and Saab are working through the shift from their prototypes to the operational airplane. They will tell you that they were pretty darn close in their prototypes to an operational airplane. … I agree, but it still takes some time to work through the issues and turn that into an operational platform.
US Air Force considers leasing trainer jets that lost the T-X competition
Valerie Insinna
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Air Force wants to lease advanced trainers as early as next summer while it waits for Boeing’s T-7 Red Hawk, creating an opportunity for the two training jets that lost out to the Red Hawk during the T-X competition.
The Air Force intends to open a competition for trainer jets that would help it test out a new training concept called “Rebuilding the Forge,” or “Reforge,” said Air Combat Command head Gen. Mike Holmes on June 22. The concept is meant to speed up the time it takes to produce an experienced pilot.
The service initially intended to lease T-50 jets — originally made by Korea Aerospace Industries — from Hillwood Aviation, according to a sources-sought solicitation released in January. But since then, other companies have expressed a desire to bid on the opportunity, called RFX, and Holmes confirmed that the Air Force plans to allow outside firms to propose alternative options.
“In our initial market research, there was some thought that there might be only one airplane there was going to be bid against it. But as we did more market research, we found out that there were multiple people that wanted to bid, and they were going to bid with a couple of different airplanes at least,” Holmes told reporters during an event hosted by the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies.
“Certainly competition is in our interest, so we want to have that competition to see who can come in and at an affordable cost. And frankly, our budgets are tight,” he added.
The goal of Reforge, Holmes said, is to produce experienced fighter pilots without having to put operators through the “basic course” currently required by any student who has never flown a fighter.
“We proposed to lease some airplanes while we’re waiting on the T-7 to arrive and do some experiments along with AETC [Air Education and Training Command] to try to figure out what’s the best use of this new T-7 that we’re going to buy,” Holmes said. “We think taking advantage of the capabilities of that new trainer along with the [virtual] training systems that AETC has previewed and premiered give us a great opportunity to meet the requirements of the [pilot] shortage that we have in the fastest, best way.”
Holmes added that if no single company comes in with an affordable proposal, the Air Force may back away from the leasing idea.
The service is still refining the specifics of its leasing strategy, but Holmes said the hope is to lease upward of 11 planes starting in the summer of 2021. The original solicitation stated that it could lease anywhere from four to eight trainers to provide approximately 4,500 flight hours annually for about five years.
Opening up RFX could make way for the third entrant in the T-X competition — Italian defense company Leonardo’s M346 Master — to butt heads against the T-50 once again.
In March, Texas-based aviation company Mission Support Systems told Aviation Week that it hoped to propose a version of the M-346 that would, within a year, be integrated with a radar from Leonardo’s GRIFO radar series. However, Air Combat Command expressed a preference for the T-50, which already is equipped with a radar.
If the Reforge concept proves successful, the Air Force may find itself with a requirement in excess of the 351 jets that are planned to be procured in the T-7 Red Hawk program of record. Those T-7s may have different specifications than the Red Hawks used for undergraduate pilot training and could end up becoming a separate variant of the aircraft, Air Force Magazine reported.
Holmes said that while the T-7 is “a great airplane,” it’s possible for Boeing and its partner, Swedish defense firm Saab, to accelerate the program quickly enough to use the Red Hawk for the Reforge proof of concept.
“It’s several years away from us getting their hands on it,” he said. “Boeing and Saab are working through the shift from their prototypes to the operational airplane. They will tell you that they were pretty darn close in their prototypes to an operational airplane. … I agree, but it still takes some time to work through the issues and turn that into an operational platform.
I knew there was an opportunity when their Airchief flew on LCA. But HAL's marketing team is so laid back, or i believe they dont have a marketing team at all, so wont happen.
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So we may not see first Mk1A until 2025 and they are promising MK2 to start testing by 2024?
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Marut had nothing to do with Mig 21 Both had different roles.
Due to want of engine it never reached its potential as a fighter bomber later we bought Jaguar and then multirole Mirage 2000.
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Mk1a is on its schedule whenever it is signed won't affect this project.
From 2023 onwards it will be under serial production.
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Second line for manufacturing already build if we get the order we can build 16-20 aircraft per year.
I read somewhere that the trainers were developed keeping cost in mind.
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Kich chiz ka intezar he?
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He can build 100 but I have serious concern abt the quality control at HAL let them slowly build up the number else we may found ourselves with Tejas crashing here and there...
We may take help of Dassault to monitor and help them in production of Tejas quality check procedures etc since make in India made in india etc stuff for Rafale seems a long way ahead for now.
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Actually they do have propaganda team but somewhere they also knew and doubt their capability.
To enter into export first they need to buildup a decent production line with good quality control measures else in international level their mischievous acts won't be tolerated specially if it's USA.
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Bhel, drdo, bel....
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And no strikes as well.
Say Vietnam places an order to be delivered in 2 years, even if it takes a month to two more than it will negatively affect HALs image.
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HAL isn't responsible for Tejas delay ADA is. But yes HAL has disappointed in various other projects like trainers etc.
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What a comapny needs to be a global aerospace contender.
-Quality first and foremost
-Production Rate
-Spare parts supply
-Upgrade Option
-Techical experts to fix any issue
-Quality first and foremost
-Production Rate
-Spare parts supply
-Upgrade Option
-Techical experts to fix any issue
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