Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant

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Stop this jaya worship, she is knight in shining Armour, as you are trying to portray here, This plant didn't came over night, once it is about to be operational this nonsense started, and before it was getting operational, the famed power cuts were known. They could have sorted out the issue more easily and proper manner, only if state government didn't wanted to play politics.
No one is worshipping Jaya or portraying herself as anything. Infact I come from a family of DMK sympathizers with myself leaning towards BJP.

And yes this started only some time ago specifically after the Fukushima disaster. The local NGOs after that did regular propaganda pieces in mass circulation fortnightlies about the "evils" of nuclear power and so in the beginning the support for the anti-KNPP group was strong. Any use of force would only have precipitated the situation lending the situation more critical.

Look you simply dont understand how TN politics or the people work. Stop this debate. You are just arguing for the sake of it. No state Govt in any state in India would have done a better job.

Answer these questions before you go on your circular argument again.

What would you have suggested???, But here are the conditions :

1. you should not be labelled as an Antidemocratic Autocrat,
2. you should not be seen as the anti people leader
3. more importantly, you should not be demonised by media and thrown out of power in the next election...?????
 

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Why the simple logic of speedy work in not getting in to your head, and trying to run every where. It is simple skulduggery attitude of the state government which caused so much of loss, and still no end in sight. Is it so difficult to get.
 

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Why the simple logic of speedy work in not getting in to your head, and trying to run every where. It is simple skulduggery attitude of the state government which caused so much of loss, and still no end in sight. Is it so difficult to get.
Stop deflecting and answer his question... its simple enough isn't it?????
 

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Why the simple logic of speedy work in not getting in to your head, and trying to run every where. It is simple skulduggery attitude of the state government which caused so much of loss, and still no end in sight. Is it so difficult to get.
Just answer the questions. Or you dont have the answer and is just deflecting/avoiding. ?

For speedy work we are not living in China...where you can just crush the protestors under bulldozer and carry on wth the work...its India.

You dont have an idea about TN and is just exposing that in each passing post. Period. Or is your ego preventing you from acknowledging that ?
 
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Simple solution we could stop supply of cheaper electricity to states like UP, Bihar where power thefts result in losses of up to 2% f the Indian GDP and instead divert them to states were they actually pay for their power And have a track record of 99% re payment.
 

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Just answer the questions. Or you dont have the answer and is just deflecting/avoiding. ?

For speedy work we are not living in China...where you can just crush the protestors under bulldozer and carry on wth the work...its India.

You dont have an idea about TN and is just exposing that in each passing post. Period. Or is your ego preventing you from acknowledging that ?
What is so special about TN, I think Indians live there, the people were sleeping for years together when the plant was building up or what? When the plant is about to start operation then every body wakes up and create ruckus, what they were doing till the plant was building up?
It is your ego which is not able to see the inept handling of the issue by the state government which has resulted in so much losses
 

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What is so special about TN, I think Indians live there, the people were sleeping for years together when the plant was building up or what? When the plant is about to start operation then every body wakes up and create ruckus, what they were doing till the plant was building up?
Every state politics is unique and different. Lesson number one.

Second what you mentioned is the issue with the protestors instigated by NGOs, missionary orgs, not the State Govt.

It is your ego which is not able to see the inept handling of the issue by the state government which has resulted in so much losses
State Govt has its limitations. To illustrate that I have asked you three simple question which you have not answered till now. So guess where the ignorance lies.
 

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Nitesh,

First you argued that these protests are politically motivated (by the ruling ADMK) and after that was disproved/debunked by the State Govt's clean chit to the plant you are groping at the straws by bringing subjective matters like how it was not handled better !

There is nothing wrong in getting it wrong man, especially when you are not native to the state and don't have an idea about the political climate. I dont know the A-Z of UP politics or MP politics. But what is wrong is, not accepting you made a mistake and continuing to argue (wrongly) with people who are actually well versed in local politics.Did not every one of the prediction I made about this episode come correct ? First about how it is not political andsecond how the state govt actually supports the plant. Give it a rest. will you ?
 

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Every state politics is unique and different. Lesson number one.

Second what you mentioned is the issue with the protestors instigated by NGOs, missionary orgs, not the State Govt.



State Govt has its limitations. To illustrate that I have asked you three simple question which you have not answered till now. So guess where the ignorance lies.
Karthik,
Most major states will end up with nuclear plants. There rarely have been nuclear plants established without protests. Our neighbouring district had a plant with indigeneous technology. It was right in the middle of ecologically sensitive, biodiversity hot spot of the western ghats. People, media, intelectuals everybody opposed it citing reasons like environment and loss of livelyhood. But all this majorly happened when the plans were announced.

So whatever is happening in TN currently, is Unique. People have waited right until the point of no return, to wake up. Its abt time the State shows its writ!!!
 

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Now even the PM has spoken very clearly about the role of US NGO's in the protest against the Kudankulam Project

Difficulties due to US-based NGOs: PM - Indian Express

Nuclear energy still has a role in India, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has said as he appeared to blame some US-based NGOs for difficulties at the Koodankulam nuclear plant.

"Yes, where India is concerned, yes. The thinking segment of our population certainly is supportive of nuclear energy," he said. He was asked whether after the Fukushima disaster he still thought that nuclear energy has a role in India.

The Prime Minister said some NGOs do not appreciate India's growing energy requirements. "The atomic energy programme has gone into difficulties because these NGOs, mostly I think based in the United States, don't appreciate the need for our country to increase the energy supply," he told the 'Science' magazine referring to Koodankulam where commissioning of two 1000-mw nuclear reactors has been stalled due to protests.
 

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What exactly are these "NGOs" up to? What work do they do? Is there any benefit of their being in India?

There needs to be a detailed investigation of all this stuff.
 

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What exactly are these "NGOs" up to? What work do they do? Is there any benefit of their being in India?

There needs to be a detailed investigation of all this stuff.
It is indeed of immense benefit to their sponsors. The seedy underbelly of NGO-ville has been charted and mapped out by quite a few folks.
 

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So whatever is happening in TN currently, is Unique. People have waited right until the point of no return, to wake up. Its abt time the State shows its writ!!!
Actually it was just pure bad luck that the Fukushima disaster had to happen. The rallying point of the anti-nuclear protestors was the Fukushima disaster. And all those articles, stories appeared NOT in English media but in mass circulation vernacular media whose main audience is housewives, laborers and mostly those not well versed in nuclear stuff, those who don't know that what is coming in KNPP is the latest,state-of-art third gen reactors while Fukushima is 60s tech. So they suddenly woke up and the instigators found the perfect excuse and the rest is history.

Now once the protests started you just can rush in your cavalry and crush it. She already did once like that and aid the price in elections.
 

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It is indeed of immense benefit to their sponsors. The seedy underbelly of NGO-ville has been charted and mapped out by quite a few folks.
NGO-ville! :rofl: Nice coinage. I will add that to my vocabulary now. :D

BTW, have you been into FarmVille lately?
 

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PM Manmohan Singh blames foreign NGOs for anti-nuclear demonstrations.

24 Feb, 2012, 12.32PM IST, AFP
PM Manmohan Singh blames foreign NGOs for anti-nuclear demonstrations.

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh blamed US non-profit groups in an interview published on Friday for whipping up anti-nuclear demonstrations that have stalled two new atomic plants.

Singh told the American journal "Science" that "the atomic energy programme has got into difficulties because these NGOs, mostly I think based in the US, don't appreciate the need for our country to increase the energy supply."

India's fast-growing economy is heavily dependent on coal, but the government hopes to raise the proportion of power produced from nuclear from less than three percent to 25 percent by 2050.

"The thinking segment of our population certainly is supportive of nuclear energy," Singh said in the interview with "Science," a copy of which was posted on his website.

But plans to construct a massive atomic power station using Russian help in the southern state of Tamil Nadu have been thrown into disarray following angry protests led by local villagers and activists.

The government was forced to stall its programme to build two 1000-megawatt nuclear reactors in Koodankulam and Russia's ambassador to India, M. Kadakin, has voiced frustration with the delays.

"We cannot allow our scientists to remain idle endlessly. For months together, they are without work," Kadakin was reported to have said earlier this month by local media.

In western India, violent demonstrations against the government's proposal to build a huge atomic power station near the Jaitapur port saw one man killed and several injured when police opened fire in April 2011.

Environmentalists have steadily campaigned to stop construction of new nuclear plants in the country, especially after Japan's Fukushima crisis last March, but the government has vowed to press on.

Singh also backed genetically modified crops to increase farm yields, despite pressure from "NGOs, often funded from the US and Scandinavian countries which are not fully appreciative of the development challenges that our country faces."

In 2010, India halted its plans to introduce its first genetically modified vegetable into the market, following resistance from citizens, scientists and state governments.

The ban is due to be reconsidered by the government this year, following further research and public consultations.

PM Manmohan Singh blames foreign NGOs for anti-nuclear demonstrations - The Economic Times
 

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US NGOs behind Kudankulam stir: PM

Singh, in an interview to the American journal 'Science' being published on Friday said, "The atomic energy programme has got into difficulties because these NGOs mostly, I think, based in the US, don't appreciate the need for our country to increase energy. The local NGO-led protests have stalled the commissioning of two 1000 mw nuclear reactors."
US NGOs behind Kudankulam stir: PM - The Times of India
 

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Simple solution we could stop supply of cheaper electricity to states like UP, Bihar where power thefts result in losses of up to 2% f the Indian GDP and instead divert them to states were they actually pay for their power And have a track record of 99% re payment.
So you are saying that KNPP should be closed down, right?
 

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He won't his family stays in USA, they will loose their jobs and get deported back.
Or he will lose support from the Missionaries and its sympathisers....!!!! does that put it rightly....????
 

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