Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant

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Every state politics is unique and different. Lesson number one.

Second what you mentioned is the issue with the protestors instigated by NGOs, missionary orgs, not the State Govt.
So you accept that state government is playing politics instead of sorting out the issue?

And by the way it is state government job is to handle the situation and take it to logical conclusion, in which it has failed

State Govt has its limitations. To illustrate that I have asked you three simple question which you have not answered till now. So guess where the ignorance lies.
Law and order is state subject? Or for Tamilnadu it is different
 

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Nitesh,

First you argued that these protests are politically motivated (by the ruling ADMK) and after that was disproved/debunked by the State Govt's clean chit to the plant you are groping at the straws by bringing subjective matters like how it was not handled better !

There is nothing wrong in getting it wrong man, especially when you are not native to the state and don't have an idea about the political climate. I dont know the A-Z of UP politics or MP politics. But what is wrong is, not accepting you made a mistake and continuing to argue (wrongly) with people who are actually well versed in local politics.Did not every one of the prediction I made about this episode come correct ? First about how it is not political andsecond how the state govt actually supports the plant. Give it a rest. will you ?
Keep your self righteousness to yourself. And who the heck are you to tell me that I can not speak about TN, where in the law it has been stated that only Tamil can speak about TN. Stop this BS.
So according to you there is absolutely no political involvement and only a handful of people are able to carry such a charade for so long on there own. And state government kept twiddling there collective thumbs.
 

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@ Karthic

Initially the Tamil Nadu Govt was quitely supporting the protestors

AIADMK was using the same formula of Mamta so as to get a " economic package "

But the recent news of power shortage in TN has made the state govt change its stand
 

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Since the central govt has invested so much in Kudunkulam
Jayalalita must have thought that in order to save this investment the Central govt would be willing to shell
out some " PROTECTION money " to the state govt

But the bulk of the power generated will go to TN and hence in the times of a power shortage
Jayalalita was forced to give a clean chit to Kudunkulam through this Expert committee
 

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Simple solution we could stop supply of cheaper electricity to states like UP, Bihar where power thefts result in losses of up to 2% f the Indian GDP and instead divert them to states were they actually pay for their power And have a track record of 99% re payment.
You know we have been hearing about UP and Bihar power being stolen and all not. In Fact TN State Electricity boards is in one of the worst state financially in India. It finds pride of place along with the BIMARU states.

http://www.firstpost.com/economy/wi...-hike-in-power-tariffs-every-year-133341.html

According to ratings agency Crisil, SEBs in Tamil Nadu, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Haryana, Madhya Pradesh and Punjab are the most vulnerable to the ongoing power sector crisis.
 

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This is what should have been done by Jaya 5 months back. Instead we have racked up about 3000 crores of losses already and still counting. Idiot of a CM.

Arrest those agitating against Kudankulam: Swamy
YA after that she should have lost the election right?????:confused::confused:

Believe me, This is one of the reasons Swamy is a joker here...

Thats because most voters here are idiots... they fall easy prey to any thing that thug MK throws at them through SUN TV....
 
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Simple solution we could stop supply of cheaper electricity to states like UP, Bihar where power thefts result in losses of up to 2% f the Indian GDP and instead divert them to states were they actually pay for their power And have a track record of 99% re payment.
This is another common misconception... It might solve the power crisis in our state but wont solve the power shortage in our country... Unlike money, Electricity cant be diverted to swiss bank.... They are stolen because there is demand and so if we stop the theft and some how make them pay up for it, we will still have the deficit right??? This is because, even if we stop the theft, they will still need that power to power whatever they were powering... so they might pay up the money, But the power shortage is still true,,, So the financial situation of EB will improve but not the power situation... What we need is a strong, futuristic govt.... only then we will get more power plants and enough electricity....
 

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What exactly are these "NGOs" up to? What work do they do? Is there any benefit of their being in India?

There needs to be a detailed investigation of all this stuff.
Now even the PM has spoken very clearly about the role of US NGO's in the protest against the Kudankulam Project

Difficulties due to US-based NGOs: PM - Indian Express
First of all, you all should thank me up for giving the first hand information regarding this:lol::lol::first::first::balle::balle::bike::santa:
 

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What exactly are these "NGOs" up to? What work do they do? Is there any benefit of their being in India?

There needs to be a detailed investigation of all this stuff.
Now even the PM has spoken very clearly about the role of US NGO's in the protest against the Kudankulam Project

Difficulties due to US-based NGOs: PM - Indian Express
Keep your self righteousness to yourself. And who the heck are you to tell me that I can not speak about TN, where in the law it has been stated that only Tamil can speak about TN. Stop this BS.
So according to you there is absolutely no political involvement and only a handful of people are able to carry such a charade for so long on there own. And state government kept twiddling there collective thumbs.
Yeah you are perfectly right...

JJ is on a suicidal run .... thats why she precipitated the already stupid power situation in my state from 6hr power cut to 10hr one...

She is very desperate to get voted out next time...:frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

What you people dont realise is that she never really supported them in the first place.... Her words were carefully crafted to sound like she was neutral in the subject... She dint say she was against this but she said She is behind the protesters and All their fears will be alleviated before opening up the project.... Never once did she say that the project will be closed.... Now please understand our state politics or Please stay out of it... I can give countless examples of how good projects during JJ's time had been focused negatively and how she paid a high price for that...

One sample incidence will be rain water harvesting.....

here is the link about the legislation for Rain water harvesting in tamil nadu.... read about Tamil nadu

Legislation on Rainwater Harvesting

The SUN network was so negative about it that it is one of the reasons for her down fall in 2006....
 

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What exactly are these "NGOs" up to? What work do they do? Is there any benefit of their being in India?

There needs to be a detailed investigation of all this stuff.
Now even the PM has spoken very clearly about the role of US NGO's in the protest against the Kudankulam Project

Difficulties due to US-based NGOs: PM - Indian Express
You know we have been hearing about UP and Bihar power being stolen and all not. In Fact TN State Electricity boards is in one of the worst state financially in India. It finds pride of place along with the BIMARU states.

http://www.firstpost.com/economy/wi...-hike-in-power-tariffs-every-year-133341.html
Thats not because we do not pay.... Its because of the stupid subsidies given to the ppeople here... Do you know that an unit power is charged only Rs.1.5/- here????

Its also because of that baldy MK, that pig did not raise the electricity charges even once despite the spiraling inflation...

But dont worry its expected to be better soon, once the tariff hike has been established
 

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So you are saying that KNPP should be closed down, right?
What he means is that the power theft should be controlled and wll lead to reduction of the deficit.... Unfortunately he is wrong....
 

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So you accept that state government is playing politics instead of sorting out the issue?

And by the way it is state government job is to handle the situation and take it to logical conclusion, in which it has failed


Law and order is state subject? Or for Tamilnadu it is different
Politics is there in everything... Its the amount of politics involved that matters.... For instance you will command more respect than many here because you are an Admin:powah!::D ... Its an example for simplest form of politics...

she never acted against the plant(for the Nth time)..... the CONs themselves never did anything more than setting up the committee.... they could have done something more as per your own argument.... So dont blame this on her... She did it very politically, by ensuring that everyone in TN understand what it will be like if KNPP is not opened.. I think she handled the issue in a mature way....Had she acted any different, she might have precipitate the support for the protesters(even from rest of TN)... As we say here repeatedly, you dont know how gullible tamil masses are....

And please understand that not all in India have the luxury of understanding what is good or bad for them like you... You dont know how gullible they are... They are not the top cream layer like us....


PS: you still have not answered the question????!!!!!
 

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Centre pulls the plug on three NGOs

Action follows PM's statement that some U.S.-based NGOs are behind Kudankulam stir

Close on the heels of the publication of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's assertion in an interview in the latest issue of journal Science that some United States-based NGOs are behind the agitation against the Kudankulam nuclear power plant, the Centre on Friday announced the revocation of the licences of three NGOs.

MESSAGE TO MOSCOW

Simultaneously, India told Russia, which is collaborating with India in the 2,000-MW plant, that the government was engaged in consultations with all stakeholders and appreciated Moscow's patience.

At 'Comprehensive Foreign Office Consultations,' Foreign Secretary Ranjan Mathai told Russia's First Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Denisov on Thursday that India was consulting various domestic constituencies and working on the opening of the first 1,000 MW unit, a process that would pave the way for operationalising the second unit six months later.

The Centre has offered half of the electricity to be produced to Tamil Nadu, where four more units have been planned.

HOME MINISTRY PROBE

Talking to journalists on Friday, Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office V. Narayanasamy insisted that Dr. Singh's statement was based on a probe by the Home Ministry.

Mr. Narayanasamy said the licences of the three NGOs were cancelled after an inquiry by the Ministry found that they were diverting foreign funds for anti-nuclear plant campaign in Kudankulam.

The identity of the NGOs is not known.

"These NGOs were receiving funds from foreign countries for social service"¦ such as helping the physically handicapped and eradication of leprosy, but these [the money] were used for the anti-nuclear [plant] protests," he said.

Mr. Narayanasamy said, "In fact, the people who are agitating near the plant have been continuing their agitation for the past three months. People are being brought there in trucks from various villages. They are being given food."

Amid the developments, senior BJP leader Arun Jaitley urged Dr. Singh to elaborate on his statement. The government should come out with facts so that people could judge whether or not the charge against the NGOs was right. "Since he [the Prime Minister] has made this statement, the government should make the facts"¦ public, so that the veracity of all this is known to the people of India, who are in a position to define what is correct."

In the interview, Dr. Singh said: "[The] atomic energy programme has got into difficulties because these NGOs, mostly I think based in the United States, don't appreciate the need for our country to increase the energy supply."

In another reference to protests against the use of genetic engineering for crops and in other sectors, he said: "There are NGOs, often funded from the United States and the Scandinavian countries, which are not fully appreciative of the development challenges our country faces."

KAKODKAR BACKS MANMOHAN

PTI reports:

The former Atomic Energy Commission chief, Anil Kakodkar, shared Dr. Singh's sentiments, saying "a nuclear power plant cannot be put under siege the way it has happened now."

It was strange that a large project ready for implementation which has met all safety requirements, even environmental and when there is tremendous shortage of electricity the country's development should become "hostage" to foreign forces, he noted.

"By just exploiting the Fukushima sentiment this entire thing has been built up," he said adding " a nuclear power plant cannot be put under a siege the way it has happened now."

CPI leader D. Raja alleged that the Prime Minister was trying to isolate some of the worker NGOs, who are working among the people of Kudankulam

The Hindu : News / National : Centre pulls the plug on three NGOs
 

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3 NGOs diverted foreign funds to fuel Kudankulam stir

Three non-governmental organisations, opposing the Russian-built nuclear plant in Tamil Nadu's Kudankulam, have been found to have used foreign funds received for social and religious purposes to fuel protests, violating foreign exchange regulatory rules.

Announcing this, minister of state in the prime minister's office V Narayanasamy said on Friday the three NGOs' licences had been cancelled, although he did not divulge the names of the organisations.
'3 NGOs diverted foreign funds to fuel Kudankulam stir' - Hindustan Times
 

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Awesome news!!!

Best news I have heard for a long time. About time GoI became tough like this in more matters!

I am delighted today.

:balle: :balle: :balle:
 

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Sources said two of the major beneficiaries of foreign funds who are actively involved in the protests are the Tuticorin Diocese Association (TDA) and the Tuticorin Multipurpose Social Service Society (TMSSS). Both these NGOs had FCRA clearance until last year but their names have now been removed from the home ministry website listing over 42,000 NGOs having FCRA clearance.

TMSSS is run by Bishop Yvon Ambroise of Tuticorin who is one of the main person behind the protests.

According to information on the home ministry website, TMSSS received Rs 42 crore from abroad in the last five years for its work in rural development. TDA received Rs 22.7 crore in that period.

The other key player in the protests, S P Udayakumar, a former fellow of the Kirwan Institute in Ohio State University, is also under official scrutiny.

Officials suspect that the protesters are getting support from a lot of other NGOs as well, mostly Christian-run organisations. The home ministry recently sent a team of officials to check the accounts of a few of these organisations. Sources said these included TMSSS, People's Education for Action and Liberation (PEAL), Madurai, and Good Vision, Nagercoil.

PM blames NGOs, Govt probes their funding - Indian Express
 

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So you accept that state government is playing politics instead of sorting out the issue?

And by the way it is state government job is to handle the situation and take it to logical conclusion, in which it has failed

Law and order is state subject? Or for Tamilnadu it is different
LOL you still not getting it right ? Fine..Just answer the three questions I asked. The answers to those answers these as well.
 

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