Know Your 'Rafale'

[smestarz]

LOL thats all the answer you can come up when confronted with the information? Go home little french boy
you really cannot debate.

In term of stupid boy, don't worry.... you always are first. And with a huge advance Bro.

 

[pmaitra]

Please make your point and keep it civil.

 

[smestarz]

When the Su-24 fencer was shot, there was no escort, There was no need to escort. NATO was "fighting" IS,
AND so were the Russians, But then when the Turkish F-16 shot down the UNE-SCORTED Su-24, the russians decided that its was vital to ensure Air dominance in Syria and not depend on "good " gestures of NATO countries,
The Russians have now a standing order that if they are scanned or tracked by any non-Russian/Syrian radar , they are free to engage. And after this directive was issued to Russian pilots specially Su-30 planes which were brought in from Russia, all NATO planes including French started to keep away from Syrian border, The Russians also brought an Air Defence destroyer.. and here is the link for you boy

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ru...aters.aspx?pageID=238&nID=91642&NewsCatID=352

The french poodle is now with tail between its legs, lol

Alfa Dog doesn't prevent a Fencer to be shoot down in Syria. The sole plane shooting down by AtoA missile in this theater. The first until.... 15 years ?

Your Alfa Dog is like a poodle.... even 2nd league air force doesn' be afraid.

 

[gadeshi]

conjecture....

One sure thing : the only plane shoot down in syria in A to A was a russian one, and by a F16. all the rest is your interpretation.

No. This is official words of RU MOD based on AD radars surviallance data.
Su-24M2 was shot down from the ambush without any warning. It was not escorted by Su-30SM while Russians believed Turkish are allies and will not perform such provocation.
And they (Turks) musted to comply inter-coalition air cooperation agreements which were broken by Turks that time.

After Su-24M2 downing Turks have performed massive flights near border but were quickly calm down when Su-30SM have began to escort strike forces near Turkish borders.


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[gadeshi]

No, I don't think Rafale will have an integrated targeting system. It will rely on targeting pod.

Why a single way data link? I don't know. I just know french air force don't think Meteor will be very usefull... mainly integrated for marketing reason, not to leave this missile on the sole Gripen and EF...

Range? It is officially said 100km. And probably 100km with a high pk even at those range. Everybody knows that range of Meteor will always be better than those of a same weight class missile with classical booster (mono or dual pulse) like AMRAAM and K77 (160 - 170kg), because of the ramjet. And by some extent.... The difference is classified.

"Can you provide a vehicle of Rafale capital that it's ergonomic" sorry I don't understant your question.

Level of computing power? I don't know. I think it evolves upgrade after upgrade.... Ask PIC DELAMIRAND OIL

Have started to spread your Meteor fairy tales again?
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[WolfPack86]

Where Is The India-France 36 Rafale Fighter Jet Deal Stuck? Find Out Here.
The Rafale aircraft will have advanced features like advanced electronically scanned array radar, mid-air refuelling and advanced electronic warfare equipment as part of its design. (Reuters) The Rafale aircraft will have advanced features like advanced electronically scanned array radar, mid-air refuelling and advanced electronic warfare equipment as part of its design. (Reuters)
Despite a June deadline set by defence minister Manohar Parrikar to close negotiations on the purchase of 36 Rafale combat aircraft from France, the deal continues to get delayed over some issues, including price.
Highly-placed sources told FE on Wednesday: “During various rounds of negotiations, the Indian side has been seeking price reduction of euro 150 million from the French company for the 36 aircraft.”
Admitting that the negotiations are still on, Parrikar, in a written response to the Rajya Sabha on Tuesday, said, “As per the India-France joint statement issued by the two countries during the Prime Minister’s visit to France, the government of India conveyed to the government of France that in view of the critical operational necessity for multirole combat aircraft for Indian Air Force, the government of India would like to acquire 36 Rafale jets in fly-away condition.”
Both the sides also agreed to conclude an inter-governmental agreement (IGA) for the supply of the aircraft. A negotiating team has been constituted to negotiate the terms and conditions for the procurement of 36 Rafale jets and recommend a draft agreement. The negotiations are underway and IGA & offset contract are yet to be finalised.
The details, including transfer of technology through offsets, will emerge after the negotiations are completed.”
The Rafale aircraft will have advanced features like advanced electronically scanned array radar, mid-air refuelling and advanced electronic warfare equipment as part of its design. Though the final cost of the deal for 36 aircraft has not yet been finalised, India has asked France to discharge a 50% offset liability of the overall contract cost.
It emerges now through sources, who did not want to be named, that Parrikar has not been meeting officials from France at the level of India’s director general (acquisitions), ministry of defence, but the negotiations are going on at the level of ambassador in New Delhi.
The deal has also been delayed as the French side has not been able to address the concerns raised by the ministry of law. As reported by FE in May, the deal ran into legal troubles when the French manufacturer Dassault Aviation offered a ‘diluted’ liability clause, which has been rejected by the Indian side since the law ministry felt that it ‘adversely’ compromised India’s interests.
The law ministry also rejected Geneva as the arbitration destination in the event of any dispute, and proposed Delhi, which the French side has opposed. Parrikar at that time, in a written reply to Rajya Sabha, had said, “Ministry of Law & Justice has made certain observations and the same will be adequately taken into account while finalising the IGA (inter-governmental agreement), which is still under negotiations”.
This is not the first time that the liability clause has come up as a hurdle. Even when discussions were going on for the purchase of 126 MMRCA, the liability clause was opposed by the French side, said sources.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/07/where-is-india-france-36-rafale-fighter.html

 

[BON PLAN]

LOL thats all the answer you can come up when confronted with the information? Go home little french boy
you really cannot debate.

The information? You only rely on Sputnik...... A kind of tabloid.

 

[BON PLAN]

When the Su-24 fencer was shot, there was no escort, There was no need to escort. NATO was "fighting" IS,
AND so were the Russians, But then when the Turkish F-16 shot down the UNE-SCORTED Su-24, the russians decided that its was vital to ensure Air dominance in Syria and not depend on "good " gestures of NATO countries,
The Russians have now a standing order that if they are scanned or tracked by any non-Russian/Syrian radar , they are free to engage. And after this directive was issued to Russian pilots specially Su-30 planes which were brought in from Russia, all NATO planes including French started to keep away from Syrian border, The Russians also brought an Air Defence destroyer.. and here is the link for you boy

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ru...aters.aspx?pageID=238&nID=91642&NewsCatID=352

The french poodle is now with tail between its legs, lol

What an error..... Russian HQ is no more ready for real war....

 

[BON PLAN]

Su-24M2 was shot down from the ambush without any warning.

Radio messageSSS were send on international channel. but SU were not équipped with radio ?

It was not an ambush. You were violeted the Turkish space too aften. And you only have to look to your radar to see there were some air patrols in the air near the border. You plane were shoot inside Turkish air space, and crashed in Syria.

 

[gadeshi]

Radio messageSSS were send on international channel. but SU were not équipped with radio ?

It was not an ambush. You were violeted the Turkish space too aften. And you only have to look to your radar to see there were some air patrols in the air near the border. You plane were shoot inside Turkish air space, and crashed in Syria.

There were no messages in English, just Turkish and very short. Russian MOD presents them to the press.
Plane was shot down over Syria, shot down by a country that was presumed an ally.
It's the same like Su-30SMs shooting down Rafale-M when frenchies expect cooperation and safety.

But why to disapprove your BS as far as TuAF has made no flights to Syrian border from the 2-nd day on incident? And Erdoghan has arrested pilots who shot Su-24M2 down directly for this after putch has fucked-up.
Result is shown, that's all.

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[gadeshi]

What an error..... Russian HQ is no more ready for real war....

Are you mentally ill???
Why am I as long you when the answer is yes?

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[BON PLAN]

There were no messages in English, just Turkish and very short. Russian MOD presents them to the press.
Plane was shot down over Syria, shot down by a country that was presumed an ally.
It's the same like Su-30SMs shooting down Rafale-M when frenchies expect cooperation and safety.

But why to disapprove your BS as far as TuAF has made no flights to Syrian border from the 2-nd day on incident? And Erdoghan has arrested pilots who shot Su-24M2 down directly for this after putch has fucked-up.
Result is shown, that's all.

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It's not what I have read. Message was in english (NATO courtry language). But SU radio were not ready to received international wave length.

 

[BON PLAN]

Are you mentally ill???
Why am I as long you when the answer is yes?

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Why beiing so agressiv ? Peace and love Bro. It's only a forum.

 

[Bahamut]

It's not what I have read. Message was in english (NATO courtry language). But SU radio were not ready to received international wave length.

Sir Russia and Turkey decided to communicate on a different channel not on the international frequency

 

[gadeshi]

Sir Russia and Turkey decided to communicate on a different channel not on the international frequency

Now I've convinced that @BonPlan is mentally I'll for sure.
How can Russian and US led coalitions sign an air cooperation agreements if their planes can't communicate to each other???
Any plane can communicate on International frequencies as far as digital radio can accept everything (even analogue as well but you should to adjust it manually).

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[gadeshi]

All this case with Su-24M2 shot down was direct US-ordered deliberate provocation. Now it is confirmed by pilots put on castody for doing this.

But we have mislead from the point - TuAF have halted all the near border flights after Su-30SMs began to escort strike flights to Turkish borders.
As well as frenchies who've got fuck out of Syria after the same event.

BTW, all the TuAF flights have been halted in 100km zone from Syrian border after Su-35S have arrived.
Su-35S, not Su-30SM is Syrian alpha dog now.

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[BON PLAN]

Sir Russia and Turkey decided to communicate on a different channel not on the international frequency

It's not what I read at those time. Turk use the international freq. Russian plane radio were not able to cope this freq. (maybe to avoid a russian pilot can communicate with NATO to go to west... ).

And if it's the case, that means or russian pilots didn't answered, or decided not to obey.

 

[BON PLAN]

Now I've convinced that @BonPlan is mentally I'll for sure.
How can Russian and US led coalitions sign an air cooperation agreements if their planes can't communicate to each other???

Once again, thank you for this compliment.

No need to communicate in the air. You just have to share the space and space time betweeen the differents air forces. It's not made from a plane to another plane my dear.

 

[BON PLAN]

Any plane can communicate on International frequencies as far as digital radio can accept everything (even analogue as well but you should to adjust it manually).

Maybe SU24 are not equipped with a digital radio. It's not an up to date plane.

 

[BON PLAN]

BTW, all the TuAF flights have been halted in 100km zone from Syrian border after Su-35S have arrived.
Su-35S, not Su-30SM is Syrian alpha dog now.

And we are obliged to believe you?
Even if SU35 is a nice plane, you are far from russia... with only some dozens planes, and not all SU35.
Turkish planes (and NATO planes) are near this border. They are not afraid.

Russia power is growing, it's clear. The bear is roaring more than 5 years ago, but it's still a weak bear.

Don't dream : russia will never be as strong as USSR. And USSR collapsed. Wou will never be able to match again OTAN or USA.