Know Your 'Rafale'

[Bornubus]

The Rafale is superior to the turd that is the F-35 in most ways and the F-22 in a few aspects (notebaly EW systems- the SPECTRA is the best such system in operational service to date bar none).


Shot from a Rafale:

I'm sure many of you can tell what you're looking at

Yeah tell this to Libiyans to have a good laugh.

Poorly trained Libiyan Militia was able to detect,Lock on and fired at Rafale by obsolete SA 8.

So much for spectra LAMO.

P.S - @mods can we keep Rafale fanboy posts in appropriate thread.

 

[gadeshi]

It's amazing,because when facing Western aircrafts,Russians didn't last long.

Tell this Americans in Korea and VietNam and in the last Arab/Istraeli war (in Lebanon)
I want to see shit in the friench pilot diapers when he will realize that somebody tracks him from 350km and Rafale doesn't see a tracker

 

[Bahamut]

The Rafale is superior to the turd that is the F-35 in most ways and the F-22 in a few aspects (notebaly EW systems- the SPECTRA is the best such system in operational service to date bar none).


Shot from a Rafale:

I'm sure many of you can tell what you're looking at

Yes,it did it the look if u see is from IR sensor ,with good pilot even Su 30 MKI will manage it.

 

[gadeshi]

That goes both ways, what makes you think the offensive and defense EW capabilties of the Rafale were on full power during this engagment? Both sides were holding back no doubt but to underestimate the Rafale just because the F-22 is reported to be "the best" doesn't make much sense. Stealth is not everything and anyway, neither France nor India are ever going to be going up against the F-22.
For the IAF's future adversories- J-20, J-31, F-16 etc the Rafale will TEAR THEM APART.

Rafale has really good defence suit, but very modest dynamical package. So tearing apart will require very hard work

 

[Bahamut]

It's amazing,because when facing Western aircrafts,Russians didn't last long.

When Su 30MKI went to red flag ,all the western fighter went in hiding.

 

[Gabriel92]

Tell this Americans in Korea and VietNam and in the last Arab/Istraeli war (in Lebanon)
I want to see shit in the friench pilot diapers when he will realize that somebody tracks him from 350km and Rafale doesn't see a tracker

Everytime the Israelis raped their arab adversaries with western aircrafts.
Don't look at what happened at the Bekaa valey,you're going to have a heart attack.

 

[gadeshi]

Yes,it did it the look if u see is from IR sensor ,with good pilot even Su 30 MKI will manage it.

Why even?
Su-30MKI has better dynamical package and at least equal IRST.

 

[gadeshi]

Everytime the Israelis raped their arab adversaries with western aircrafts.
Don't look at what happened at the Bekaa valey,you're going to have a heart attack.

Not in Lebanon.
Bekaa was not a fault of Soviet aircraft but fault of ass-hole-instead-the-arms Arab commanders.

 

[Bahamut]

Rafale has really good defence suit, but very modest dynamical package. So tearing apart will require very hard work

Rafale will be more then enough for F 16 ,J 13 ,J 10 and J 11 ,my only problem is cost and no ToT ,let hope it gets solved

 

[abingdonboy]

Rafale has really good defence suit, but very modest dynamical package. So tearing apart will require very hard work

So the Chinese have magically raced ahead of the West and gone from being 20+ years behind? Come on, let's not get that stupid.

 

[gadeshi]

A good stuff for friench rapes and toilets - Friench UN soldiers involved:

 

[gadeshi]

So the Chinese have magically raced ahead of the West and gone from being 20+ years behind? Come on, let's not get that stupid.

Rafale is more than enough for the other medium fighters except EF-2000 and possibly MiG-35 (when it will be ready). But when it comes to close combat... Donno, some modelling is required
And BTW I've never treat Chinese fighters as a superpower. But J-11B is a black horse on avionics while has exellent dynamic package on Su-27 level.

 

[abingdonboy]

Rafale will be more then enough for F 16 ,J 13 ,J 10 and J 11 ,my only problem is cost and no ToT ,let hope it gets solved

1) Cost- the Rafale will cost less to fly, operate and buy than the paper plane FGFA and whilst doing so will deliver higher levels of availabilty. If 75% is the best the IAF can get for the MKIs, I shudder to think how low the FGFA's availbilty will be (let's hope it is above 50%).
2) ToT- what meaningful ToT has India got from Russia? To this day the Russians are screwing India with the MKI and production is at an abysmal 12-15 a year. Dassualt is willing to tie up with a PRIVATE partner in India and deliver 16+ Rafales a year and will allow for true ToT on critical tech such as the AESA radar and engine.

 

[SajeevJino]

Proofs please
And enlight us on the units outside France

let me say .. there were 90+ Rafale in Al'A and some 40+ Rafale B in marine nationle

Last I heard there is some 10+ Early variants of Rafale went for upgrade, Rafale deployment is nealry 12 in Iraq, another six+ in UAE, some of them in Mali, CAR and CHAD probably some 10+ , another six plus recently went into Baltics for CAP replaced by Mirages. balance in French mainland

So I could say the current Rafale Al'A availability must be over 75%.

In marine version, I may go for the 55% posted by @Gabriel92

 

[abingdonboy]

Rafale is more than enough for the other medium fighters except EF-2000 and possibly MiG-35 (when it will be ready). But when it comes to close combat... Donno, some modelling is required

The same MiG-35 that was kicked out of the IAF's MMRCA competiton on TECHNICAL grounds that the Rafale won, that MiG-35? If you're talking about who will see who first- the MiG-35s pilots will pressing "eject" before they ever press "fire" on a Rafale with all its sensors engaged- all things being equal. There is nothing the MiG-35 possess to defeat the SPECTRA suite.

 

[Bahamut]

Everytime the Israelis raped their arab adversaries with western aircrafts.
Don't look at what happened at the Bekaa valey,you're going to have a heart attack.

When a Israeli pilot was about that the bekaa valley proves western aircraft are superior to Russian ones ,he said no .He said it was better traininig and had the arabs had better training ,they would be a fight .He was a former mirage 3 pilot and then was a F 16 pilot .He praised Mig 21 turn rate and maneuverability but said the pilot did not use it properly .Do

 

[Razor]

Yeah tell this to Libiyans to have a good laugh.

Poorly trained Libiyan Militia was able to detect,Lock on and fired at Rafale by obsolete SA 8.

So much for spectra LAMO.

P.S - @mods can we keep Rafale fanboy posts in appropriate thread.

Just an fyi,

The @mods tag doesn't seem to work.

Best bet is to tag an active mod like @Sakal Gharelu Ustad

 

[abingdonboy]

Why even?
Su-30MKI has better dynamical package and at least equal IRST.

What's a "dynamical package?



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[Gabriel92]

A good stuff for friench rapes and toilets - Friench UN soldiers involved:

Thanks to the French intervention,this country went from total chaos,ethnic cleansings and each others slaughtering to stability with fair elections and a new president.
There are various role players (That saw French army's deployment as against their interests) that want to accuse France of nonsense things. One day we are peadophiles,one day we are rapists,and the other we are zoophiles. Why didn't we get such accusations in Afghanistan,Mali ? And basically,in our 200 overseas operations since the end of the war in Algeria ?

So the Chinese have magically raced ahead of the West and gone from being 20+ years behind? Come on, let's not get that stupid.

Brace yourselves Indian,an $30Mn "stealth" aircraft coming from nowhere is going to equip en masse the PAF and the BAF and are going to rape the entire IAF. Should we believe that.

let me say .. there were 90+ Rafale in Al'A and some 40+ Rafale B in marine nationle

Last I heard there is some 10+ Early variants of Rafale went for upgrade, Rafale deployment is nealry 12 in Iraq, another six+ in UAE, some of them in Mali, CAR and CHAD probably some 10+ , another six plus recently went into Baltics for CAP replaced by Mirages. balance in French mainland

So I could say the current Rafale Al'A availability must be over 75%.

In marine version, I may go for the 55% posted by @Gabriel92

The funds allowed to the air force to maintain aircrafts are under what is needed.
While the availability rate is lower in France,it is near 90-100% in operations. (And this including AdlA and MN's Rafales.)

 

[Indx TechStyle]

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