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About 2030 in his press conference Trappier stated 10-15 years of developmentAny dates available? Even estimated dates.
About 2030 in his press conference Trappier stated 10-15 years of developmentAny dates available? Even estimated dates.
You are once again talking about French Rafale.The Rafale still has no HMCS.
The US and EU have only sanctioned direct military sales to Russia, indirect sales like re-exporting equipment to India is still allowed. There is plenty of French equipment that Russia re-exports to other countries.There is no plan to adapt the Krypton on the Rafale (there is a possibility but now with Russian crisis not possible) and Harm-E is the latest gen in ARMs, Krpyton hasn't been upgraded in years.
According to French newsletter "TTU", the French company Dassault Aviation began negotiations c Russian company "Tactical Missiles Corporation" on the possibility of integration of Russian missiles in fighter weapon Dassault Rafale. This option can play a role in the context of the sale of Rafale fighter jets to India.
Is this UK-France specific or available for export?About 2030 in his press conference Trappier stated 10-15 years of development
That price is for the USN. And EW suite in the Super Hornet is different from the Growler.
What the Growler carries is entirely different.
This is a Growler.
Do you see those pods hanging off the aircraft? Those are not available for export.
AERO INDIA: Boeing reveals plans for 'Growler Lite' - 2/13/2009 - Flight Global
What it means is the aircraft is not the Growler. Without those pods, the aircraft is worthless.
As the article says the ALQ-99 pods are no longer in production. The Americans have launched a new program called NGJ which is again not available for export.
The EW suite offered for export is a basic suite which is far inferior to Spectra. You can say it is at least more than a generation behind Spectra. LCA's EW suite is more advanced than the one on SH B2 today.
In fact, according to Boeing officials, the electronic warfare EA-18G might benefit more from the modifications than the regular Super Hornet.
Boeing shows off advanced Super Hornet demonstrator - 8/28/2013 - Flight Global
Although Boeing and Northrop Grumman are leading the project, the upgrades are applicable for future USN Super Hornet and EA-18G modernisation efforts, Morley says.
Boeing to demo Super Hornet enhancements in summer - 4/9/2013 - Flight Global
Does it mean that after these upgrades EA-18G can be fitted with EWP...!...?
That only makes the USN better. It doesn't affect India.Yeah, you are absolutely right, the Growler carries is entirely different.
Does it mean that after these upgrades EA-18G can be fitted with EWP...!...?
Well, EWP is a part of Block 3 upgrade anyway.
On top of it....improved engine, with 25 to 30% less parts, lighter weight, more thrust and they are trying to improve it's efficiency at medium to high altitudes operations.
So far the USN has only shown interest in the CFT. Everybody wants CFT now, it is no big deal.^^^
It is the USN that is testing the features, Boeing like any other airframer is trying to score deals for these upgrades but the testing is being done by the USN and so far they are pleased. Also you seem to forget these upgrades are inevitable, the oldest Super Hornet approach around 5k hrs of flight and require MLU at 6K hrs of flight hence these upgrades will happen since F-35C is not available in numbers any time soon. Also, the Newest Super hornets for USN are still being delivered and will be MLUed with Block 4 upgrades sometime next decade. You clearly forget the SH is the most economical & versatile aircraft the USN operated in a long time and this is why they constantly have supported its growth. For what it does and the price off the shelf and costs over time have been to the USN's pleasing.
The USN is apparently looking at a 2025 IOC. We can expect the last SH to leave before 2035. You forget that apart from this NGAD, they also have the UCLASS program. So it will be a combination of NGAD and UCLASS that will replace the SH.Do you really think a 6th gen fighter will miraculously replace over 500 Super Hornets in 2030. They by all means expect a 6th fighter to be ready for testing mid or late next decade to start replacing the oldest super hornets, which by then would have had over 8000hrs of flight around 2030+ The 500 or so super hornet would be replaced over a decade begining 2032 if the 6th gen fighter program faces no delays.
True. Considering SH was never shortlisted, it never made the cut like the other two.Hey
I am new to this thread but just want to say one f-18 chances are now lost. After all those hectic evaluation of 2 years done by iaf we know that only two aircrafts are better suited to our needs. Both are new designs. With new generation radars. Even have new type of engines. Both are European. There is no f18, f16, mig 35 or gripen. So we know that these aircraft are not so advanced to fullfil our needs. Now are we discussing this .
The only question today we have
1. Is it justified to buy rafale on the those sky high cost?
2. Can we make tejus so advanced to cancel rafale deal and save some tax payers money?
3. Or can we bring those sky high cost of rafale on the ground on negotiation table now? If yes how?
How do they define preliminary work?@ P2prada about EFCAS, No idea. At the moment, definition phase, it is french/Uk specific. But they officially stated that after preliminary work it would be opened to foreign partners.
no. but if we go by American definition, Dassault neuron and Boeing X45 can be considered as 5.5 gen technology demonstrator.Has America come out with any concepts?
Definition phase. eg mono or bi engine? range required? CATOBAR compliant? Tyes of sensors? REmotely optionnally manned or pure UCAS? etc.How do they define preliminary work?
Is it like the F-35 where the Americans develop the radar, engine and all other important aspects and then tell the others to buy it or will it be like Typhoon where each partner nation will have his work cut out, one country develops the engine, another the radar, another the EW suite and so on?
Hence, it can be surmised that these 'assorted' items were either skilfully or inadvertently omitted from the Scorpene bid or simply tagged on as 'miscellaneous' only to be negotiated later, once the submarines construction has started leaving the MoD and Navy no alternative but to acquire them.
In what appears to be a rerun of the Scorpene project, around 50-60 'un-priced' items are believed to have been listed as miscellaneous' in Dassault's offer for the Rafale which emerged as L1 or the lowest bidder in the MMRCA tender ahead of the Eurofighter.
Consequently, each Rafale is now reportedly priced between $110-120 million.
To say the Rafale matches the F-22 is all but laughable.
Then can you explain why it didn't make the shortlist? Or we would have seen three aircraft shortlisted.I know the SH ship has sailed for India but to think Rafale is the best out there is delusional at best.
Or may be our fanboys here know more about the plane they have not even seen than the pilots who tested them
Then can you explain why it didn't make the shortlist? Or we would have seen three aircraft shortlisted.
Maybe Admiral Arun Prakash claiming Rafale to be superior to SH wasn't enough.
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