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The Rafale As Canada?s Next Fighter ? Part 3 | Ottawa Citizen
This article is so chock full of inaccuracies and glossing over issues that I don't even know where to begin. For one it falls into the trap of "Spectra" being some sort of mysterious and world changing technology attached to it. Spectra is nothing more than a buzzname given to the standard ECM suite that every modern fighter has, in some cases even better than "Spectra." The comment of it giving CAPTOR "headaches" is so mired in falsity that it beggers belief. Just who's side are you going to listen to? You completely fail to mention that it was DASSAULT that claimed that, just as the Eurofighter Consortium then mentioned that despite carrying heavier payloads, Typhoon had outperformed the Rafale in "every area." Thats before we even get to how the F-35 beats out the Rafale in an unthinkable number of ways when it comes to ECM, radar and tracking ability. The AN-APG 81 or a CAPTOR-E would cut through this "Spectra" like butter on account of Rafale's weak powerplant rating. It has a very low capability to surge its systems like other platforms.
You can't just cherrypick industry sources and then not mention who from to try and fool people.
Furthermore, are you not going to mention Rafale's weak radar? Its tiny radar aperture that only allows for 50 degrees of radar traverse? Compared to CAPTOR-E that has a 120 degrees traverse AND a stronger radar to boot? Not going to mention about the Rafale's complete lack of a helmet mounted sight and the Rafale's extremely low service ceiling (Typhoon can go to 70,000 feet compared to Rafale's 55,000) and your insistence of going "But it did this in tests!" to try and justify its weak abilities when used in operation by comparison to other leading aircraft.
But here's the entire crux of it. Rafale is a great aircraft. It is definitely among the top tiers and if Canada wants a top tier it should certainly be among the contenders. But compared especially to Typhoon, the Rafale falls short of ability and yet costs EVEN MORE. Look at India, where the cost of Rafale was shown to have increased 100% lately after Dassault revealed its true intentions, costing in the end far more than Typhoons would have.
If Canada wants to be properly future proofed for a price, then Typhoon is their best choice. If they don't want to spend to top tier level, Gripen. But the Rafale currently exists in a strange area of costing more to get less in the end.
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Spectra is nothing more than a buzzname given to the standard ECM suite that every modern fighter has, in some cases even better than "Spectra."
oh yes still till this date now Typhoon failed to have an ECM suite comparable to it
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You completely fail to mention that it was DASSAULT that claimed that, just as the Eurofighter Consortium then mentioned that despite carrying heavier payloads, Typhoon had outperformed the Rafale in "every area.
GEEZ!!
really & i think SWISS were lying then about rafale's capabilty in their evaluation report in comparision with typhoon & gripen
& why in every evaluations the evaluators dont think the same way like you think???
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before we even get to how the F-35 beats out the Rafale in an unthinkable number of ways when it comes to ECM, radar and tracking ability.
but excuse me
before that you should know how F35's radar's is functioning in evaluation trials report
The radar performs poorly or not at all.
Another common complaint involved the failure of the radar system.
"The radar performance shortfalls ranged from the radar being completely inoperative on two sorties to failing to display targets on one sortie, inexplicably dropping targets on another sortie, and taking excessive time to develop a track on near co-speed targets on yet another sortie," according to the report.
source
F-35 Report Warns of Visibility Risks, Other Dangers | Defense News | defensenews.com
regarding DASS
The F-35 confuses itself
To defend against increasingly sophisticated Russian- and Chinese-made air defenses, the JSF includes a cluster of high-tech cameras and sensors able to detect incoming missiles—and automatically deploy heat-generating flares or radar-foiling chaff to spoof the enemy guidance.
But the so-called "Distributed Aperture System" doesn't work. "The DAS has displayed a high false alarm rate for missile detections during ownship and formation flare testing," the testing report reveals. Basically, the system cannot tell the difference between an enemy missile and one of the F-35's own hot flares.
Imagine the feedback loop that could result. An F-35's DAS detects an incoming missile and pops flares. DAS then mistakes those flares for another missile and pops more flares, then still more flares to spoof them. So on and so on until the F-35 runs out of countermeasures "¦ and is defenseless.
Source
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/2ef94297330d
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Furthermore, are you not going to mention Rafale's weak radar? Its tiny radar aperture that only allows for 50 degrees of radar traverse? Compared to CAPTOR-E that has a 120 degrees traverse AND a stronger radar to boot?
oh yes why not??
but sir Rafale's radar is already operational & we know quite a lot about's it's performance & capabilties but what about Captor-E aesa
radar capabilties which is still to be operationalized & we still yet to know about it's capabilties in realtime (ie under .intense electronic jamming environment & highly senstive & powerful RWR of it's adversary planes )
Meanwhile french are testing those RBE 2 aesa radar against the rafale's own spectra system ( result still classified BTW )
just pen & paper marketing PR sources from Jon Lake like authors wont be enough to convince anyone
BTW did u bother to read properly what mr yves pagot had stated about GaN capabililties & conformal arrays Rafale plans to have in future , What would be it's effect in radar's power & detection range capabilty do you have any idea ??
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Not going to mention about the Rafale's complete lack of a helmet mounted sight and the Rafale's extremely low service ceiling (Typhoon can go to 70,000 feet compared to Rafale's 55,000) and your insistence of going "But it did this in tests!" to try and justify its weak abilities when used in operation by comparison to other leading aircraft.
As if Rafale cant have HMD at all
the fact is french dont give priority to HMD much but there are various HMD avaliable for Rafale .
any customer on it's requirement can have HMD so no big deal at all
what effect would have a higher ceiling have in combat apart from generating slightly longer Kinematic range of BVRAAMs but it doent increase it's kill probabilty of BVraam missile .
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But compared especially to Typhoon, the Rafale falls short of ability and yet costs EVEN MORE. Look at India, where the cost of Rafale was shown to have increased 100% lately after Dassault revealed its true intentions, costing in the end far more than Typhoons would have.
i hate this word to use but i cant find any better word to express my feelings
BLAAAAHHHHHH
WTF Rafale costs more than typhoon
tell u what even the bull would sue me in court if i compare your post with it's sh!t
Have u ever bother to read the real figures about Euros & indian currency exchange rates at the moment now . if that would be applied to typhoon it can even cost more than rafale and thats not all we have to fund many of it's capabilties like CFTs & TVCs & Air to ground capabilties in future
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If Canada wants to be properly future proofed for a price, then Typhoon is their best choice. If they don't want to spend to top tier level, Gripen. But the Rafale currently exists in a strange area of costing more to get less in the end
Hmm
Ok atleast 1 thing you are right i.e about gripen but about the bolded part
You seriously believe
the Rafale currently exists in a strange area of costing more to get less in the end
but actually in reality it's the opposite which u have posted
P.S I could have posted the same thing there also but i dont want to have flame baiting there
CHEERS
UPA 2
) . Yes workshare is established between HAL and Dassault. There will be two supply chain, and the industrial meccano is built in evrey details, all companies etc. etc. identified and in contact. Both French and Indian ministires were told so. (Reading between lines, technical contracts are wrapped up). 
