Know Your 'Rafale'

[SajeevJino]

Only the Rafale met the minimum expected capabilities (MEC) in all five roles

The Eurofighter failed to make the grade in the strike and reconnaissance categories.

The Gripen failed to achieve the MEC in all five roles.


"The weak point of the Rafale was the lack of a helmet-mounted sight system,"

"the capabilities of the Eurofighter to fulfill recce and strike missions were rated as unsatisfactory."

In Gripen , aircraft performances and aircraft weapon load were among the main limiting factors." The evaluators said there was no sensor data fusion between the radar and EW suite


for 22 Aircraft's

Gripen CHF3.1 billion ($3.4 billion)

Rafale bid was about CHF3.5 billion

Eurofighter costing CHF4 billion,

Hence The Lowest Bidder Won the Contend and RIP Performance

 

[jmj_overlord]

Only the Rafale met the minimum expected capabilities (MEC) in all five roles

The Eurofighter failed to make the grade in the strike and reconnaissance categories.

The Gripen failed to achieve the MEC in all five roles.


"The weak point of the Rafale was the lack of a helmet-mounted sight system,"

"the capabilities of the Eurofighter to fulfill recce and strike missions were rated as unsatisfactory."

In Gripen , aircraft performances and aircraft weapon load were among the main limiting factors." The evaluators said there was no sensor data fusion between the radar and EW suite


for 22 Aircraft's

Gripen CHF3.1 billion ($3.4 billion)

Rafale bid was about CHF3.5 billion

Eurofighter costing CHF4 billion,

Hence The Lowest Bidder Won the Contend and RIP Performance

but why does eurofighter typhoon has more contracts and operators than rafale in several countries ? From the competitors it seems rafale only has france as it's sole operator......

 

[p2prada]

but why does eurofighter typhoon has more contracts and operators than rafale in several countries ? From the competitors it seems rafale only has france as it's sole operator......

EF was built in a four nation consortium unlike Rafale. So, outside of the four countries of UK, Germany, Spain and Italy, EF managed export sales only to the Saudis, Oman and Austria.

In Austria, Rafale did not participate. The Saudi deal wasn't a tender. It was a single vendor deal. Oman was the same too.

There are a multitude of reasons why France has failed to secure an order. Most of them have to do with costs vs competing American systems in American dominated markets in East Asia (Korea, Japan, Singapore) or vs Russian dominated markets (Algeria). Older French customers are still in the tendering phase of their contracts, namely UAE, India, Qatar etc.

 

[Drsomnath999]

Colombia looks to procure new fighter type

The Colombian Air Force (Fuerza Aerea Colombiana - FAC) is looking to procure a new fighter aircraft type "over the next three to four years" to enhance its top-end air combat capabilities, a senior service official said on 14 November.

Speaking at the IQPC International Fighter Conference in London, Brigadier General Carlos Bueno, Air Operations Commander, FAC, said that the air force is considering a number of modern fighter types, such as the Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, Sukhoi Su-30 'Flanker', Dassault Rafale, Dassault Mirage 2000, Saab JAS 39 Gripen, "and some more".

The FAC's frontline fighter fleet is currently composed of 19 single-seat Israeli Aircraft Industries (IAI) Kfir C.10/12s (plus three twin-seat variants for conversion training). It is understood that the new fighter will augment the FAC's newly upgraded Kfirs to boost the air force's air-to-air capabilities.

Given the potential candidates named by the general, it looks likely that the FAC will be looking to procure surplus aircraft rather than new-build. With the exception of the Rafale and Gripen, there are numerous used examples of the other types that might suit Colombia's needs.

Colombia has already embarked on an effort to replace its aging Cessna A-37 Dragonfly and Rockwell OV-10 Bronco ground attack platforms. Initial candidates include the Alenia/Embraer AMX, Aero Vodochody L159 ALCA, and BAE Systems Hawk.

Separately, Gen Bueno said that the FAC is looking to acquire an airborne early warning (AEW) capability. While he did not name potential aircraft types, his briefing slide showed the IAI G550 Conformal AEW (CAEW) platform.

Colombia looks to procure new fighter type - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Drsomnath999]

Air&Cosmos 2382:

For the pic... No new infos in the article:
- Qatar wants 36 aircraft, the Rafale obtained good results during the assessment in hot weather.
- Discussions are still ongoing in the UAE. (they want a Rafale-9 with more jamming capabilities and a supercharged radar)
- In Kuwait, the SuperHornet would be now the favorite.

Apart from that, for Mali, there are still 6 Rafale operating from N'Djamena and 3 Mirage 2000D in Bamako.


COURTESY-OLYBRIUS
THANK U FOR THE INFO MATE

 

[prohumanity]

LOL.. You are quoting Janes' Defense...thats just a western mouthpiece...to advertize western weapons.

 

[Drsomnath999]

i decided to elevate the moods of everyone with some interesting collection of pics of rafale

Do enjoy folks


I) Erotic pics of rafale

2) Iconic image of Rafale with LAMBORGHINI PREGUNTA

VIDEO SOURCE
Lamborghini Pregunta vs the Dassault Rafale - YouTube

3)Breitling watches advertisement with Rafale fighter jet

4) HORN BLOWING BY RAFALE

CHEERS

 

[cobra commando]

French To Boost R&D Across Multiple Programs


French To Boost R&D Across Multiple Programs | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[kseeker]

France finalizing plan for new Rafale F3-R standard | idrw.org

SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

Aircraft-maker Dassault Aviation along with French defence ministry is working out plans to bring in new upgrades to their Rafale jets which will include a new-generation laser targeting pod, According to reports, the Rafale is being upgraded to a new standard with major software upgrades and will known as the Rafale F3R.

The upgrade will complement the enhanced Thales RBE2 active electronically-scanned array (AESA) radar which will allow the aircraft to deploy the MBDA Meteor Beyond Visual Range Air-to-Air Missile (BVRAAM), along with affording improvements to the aircraft's Thales SPECTRA self-defence system and Mode-5/Mode-S-compatible Identification Friend or Foe interrogator/transponder.

French air force already has taken delivery of Thales RBE2 active electronically-scanned array (AESA) radar Rafale aircraft last year , F3R will bring in the latest generation of missile warning systems and various improvements in human-machine interface making Rafale become even more efficient, lethal, sustainable, reliable and easy to maintain.

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Any chance of we getting this upgraded flying machines if this deal materialises ?

 

[kseeker]

MMRCA Tamasha was Political: Ex IAF Official | idrw.org

SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

It was in 1999 after end of Kargil war with Pakistan, when Indian air force decided to procure 126 more French build Mirage 2000s after the aircraft performed exceptionally well in the mountainous terrain of Kargil . It's been 14 years now after Kargil war but Indian air force is still waiting for a deal for purchase of new fighter.

Idrw.org Recently spoke to Retired IAF Official who didn't wanted to be named, who said that "Due to Political reasons whole deal dragged on for years "he also told that "It was Political decision to make it multi-vendor competition, IAF knew exactly what it wanted and it was Upgraded Mirage-2000s then but later allowing American companies for bidding was also a mistake since IAF always knew their aircrafts (F-16 and F-18SH) will never fit out requirements.

According to retired official ' opening up and inviting American companies for bidding lead to further delays since multi-vendor proposals had to be gone through in details and aircraft's testing of additional aircraft's had to been carried out , it was lengthy process which could have been avoided but just sake for transparency from political masters , IAF had to go through whole ordeal which has seriously effected its current fleet strength which has been going south due to retirements of older Migs .

Throwing some light into current negotiation with French for Purchase of 126 Rafale jets, Official said that it was due to French stubbornness we are still Negotiating the deal and it will take few more months before the deal is signed between the two parties, French for better part of last year have been trying hard to tell us how due to our inability to absorb Transfer of technology shouldn't seek transfer of core technology of Rafale aircraft , literally backing off from submitted proposal by them , He also mentioned that he is not aware of current status of the deal but he strongly believes that there might be deviation in Transfer of Technology between two parties .

 

[mehrotraprince]

MMRCA Tamasha was Political: Ex IAF Official

It was in 1999 after end of Kargil war with Pakistan, when Indian air force decided to procure 126 more French build Mirage 2000s after the aircraft performed exceptionally well in the mountainous terrain of Kargil . It's been 14 years now after Kargil war but Indian air force is still waiting for a deal for purchase of new fighter.

Idrw.org Recently spoke to Retired IAF Official who didn't wanted to be named, who said that "Due to Political reasons whole deal dragged on for years "he also told that "It was Political decision to make it multi-vendor competition, IAF knew exactly what it wanted and it was Upgraded Mirage-2000s then but later allowing American companies for bidding was also a mistake since IAF always knew their aircrafts (F-16 and F-18SH) will never fit out requirements.

According to retired official ' opening up and inviting American companies for bidding lead to further delays since multi-vendor proposals had to be gone through in details and aircraft's testing of additional aircraft's had to been carried out , it was lengthy process which could have been avoided but just sake for transparency from political masters , IAF had to go through whole ordeal which has seriously effected its current fleet strength which has been going south due to retirements of older Migs .

Throwing some light into current negotiation with French for Purchase of 126 Rafale jets, Official said that it was due to French stubbornness we are still Negotiating the deal and it will take few more months before the deal is signed between the two parties, French for better part of last year have been trying hard to tell us how due to our inability to absorb Transfer of technology shouldn't seek transfer of core technology of Rafale aircraft , literally backing off from submitted proposal by them , He also mentioned that he is not aware of current status of the deal but he strongly believes that there might be deviation in Transfer of Technology between two parties .
MMRCA Tamasha was Political: Ex IAF Official | idrw.org

 

[kseeker]

UAE waits Indian Rafale Fighter Jet deal | idrw.org

SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

It's again Rafale vs Eurofighter Typhoon contest for a $10 billion contract for up to 60 combat jets in the United Arab Emirates, Statements by Emirati officials in Dubai Airshow had said that Rafale was again in favor would suggest a big turn round for Dassault.

When idrw.org spoke to Charles Armitage, Defense analyst on Middle-east, he said that UAE has been closely watching Indian negotiation with Dassault to go through and has been getting updates by Indians on the current negotiation.

Agreement on the purchase of Rafale from France might happen in next few months before next General Elections to be held in May, Dassault has strengthen its position in United Arab Emirates when France was able to sell Military Spy satellite to Emirates earlier this year, Dassault has been the clear favorite after that deal in the UAE, especially after France's made significant efforts to deepen its military ties.

But UAE still is watching Indian deal carefully, since it doesn't want to be sole export customer for Rafale fighter jets, Rafale has France Military as its only firm customer. The cash-strapped French government this summer slashed the number of Rafale jet fighters it would buy and by 2016 Dassault would have to count on exports which it still doesn't have signed and sealed to keep production rolling.

Final contract negotiations with India are proving difficult; France's request for $2 billion extra to upgrade the technology India wants has led to further deals. .nobody likes being the only export customer for a programme, as it tends to reduce flexibility and increase the upgrade and maintenance costs," if UAE goes for Typhoon or Indian deal falls this could bring Typhoon back into the picture". While UK hopes that securing the UAE as a customer could result in sales around the Gulf. Britain has already won orders from Saudi Arabia and Oman and interest from Bahrain.

 

[Drsomnath999]

French To Boost R&D Across Multiple Programs

PARIS — A research and development deal is due soon as part of an announced upgrade of the Rafale fighter, including a new-generation laser targeting pod, Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said Nov. 21.

"Development of the new F3-R standard for the Rafale, which will notably carry a new-generation laser targeting pod — that will be decided in the next few days," Le Drian said.

Le Drian was speaking at the Innovation Forum, a technology showcase held by the procurement arm Direction Générale de l'Armement (DGA) at the elite École Polytechnique.

The DGA signed with Thales at the end of December a €55 million (US $74 million) contract for derisking work on a new-generation laser targeting pod. The electronics company supplies the Damocles infrared pod that fits on the Rafale and Mirage 2000D.

A laser pod, due to be shipped in five years, would boost French attractiveness in military markets, the DGA said in a January statement on the derisking contract.

The current infrared-based pod is seen as lacking competitiveness with US company Lockheed Martin's Sniper and Israeli Rafael's Litening targeting kit.

The government plans a major R&D effort for programs set out in the 2014-19 multiyear budget law, Le Drian said.

Those other programs include the Scorpion project for modernizing Army kit, an underwater drone to replace the Navy's minehunter ships, Musis spy satellite to replace the Helios 2 system, and cooperation on the Italian Cosmo-Skymed and German SAR Lupe satellite programs.

The total budget for research and technology (R&T) and R&D for 2014 is €3.6 billion, Le Drian said.

"Innovation in defense is more than ever a determining factor for our place on the world scene," he said. "We have drawn all the financial conclusions."

Laurent Collet-Billon, head of the DGA, described as "our war horse," is working to speed up the process from idea to producer, to deliver an operational gain for the armed forces and economic plus for industry, Le Drian said.

Collet-Billon said speeding the innovation process in industry would create value and jobs, contribute to national wealth and raise morale, which is badly needed.

Efforts must be doubled at the national level to promote exports and technology transfer, he said.

The budget for the DGA's rapid program for funding R&T projects by small and medium-sized companies was €40 million this year, rising to €45 million in 2014 and €50 million in 2015, Le Drian told journalists. That compares with €10 million in 2009, a DGA spokesman said.

The Innovation Forum is a showcase for small and medium-sized companies funded directly or indirectly by the DGA and working on high-technology projects open for use in military and civilian sectors.

The Polytechnique is in an area intended as a cluster of high-tech businesses and university labs.

With the defense budget under severe pressure, equipment programs have been delayed but funding for technology research is seen as needed to preserve future capability. â– 

French To Boost R&D Across Multiple Programs | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[ersakthivel]

Defence Ministry replaces officer handling vvip chopper scam and MMRCA deal | idrw.org

 

[redragon]

I still believe "no Rafale can service IAF before the end of 2015"

 

[SajeevJino]

I still believe "no Rafale can service IAF before the end of 2015"

2015 time frame for LCA Tejas and Super Sukhoi .. 3+ 2 Sqaud each

2017 Arrival of First Squad of Rafale F3

 

[redragon]

2015 time frame for LCA Tejas and Super Sukhoi .. 3+ 2 Sqaud each

2017 Arrival of First Squad of Rafale F3

I think you are right about Rafale, but wrong on LCA and T50, that would be to early for these 2.

 

[SajeevJino]

I think you are right about Rafale, but wrong on LCA and T50, that would be to early for these 2.

You will see two Super Sukhoi squadrans and Three LCA Squad by 2015 ..I will not say anything about T 50

 

[Drsomnath999]

Missiles: MBDA Brimstone believes in on Rafale

And if it was precision weaponry which today still lack the Rafale? It must be said that between 30 mm cannon and 250 kg bomb, the French fighter aircraft does not have a collateral effect reduces ammunition, as demonstrated by Operation Harmattan in Libya. From 2011, the British team were therefore approached Dassault MBDA, the DGA and the Air Force to propose their solution to the problem: the AGM Dual Mode Brimstone (DMB), a small arms from 50 kg to guide hybrid and semi-active radar laser which was brilliantly during the operation, which was implemented by the Tornado GR4 of the Royal Air Force.

Technically, the feasibility of the operation seemed to be no doubt. "On Rafale, it is possible to achieve a minimum first integration in about 12 months," confirmed Adrian Monks, head of the unit "Short Range Surface Attack" at MBDA, during a briefing given on the occasion organized by the 3AF, which was held in Paris from November 27 to 29 "Delivering Precision Effects in a Complex Environment" conference.

This integration "emergency" would be about carrying six missiles in point 2 wing on triple similar to those now used by the Tornado adapters. A solution that will allow more hand to carry AASM during the same mission, they are also included in this part of the wing Rafale.

However, further integration of Brimstone Rafale would consider "a maximum payload of 12 missiles," according to Adrian Monks. Which could be obtained by opening paragraphs 3 wing (near the Mica missile wing tip), now unused, or even the rear fuselage side points today reserved for air-air missile Mica and tomorrow at Meteor.

Why the integration of Brimstone did not she made in 2011? No official response emerges, but everyone has his little explanation. Critics of the British solution, the note was as too salty: first for the integration itself, some amounted to approximately € 100 million for the carriage of six missiles, and then because of the cost Unit of Brimstone, which proves to be higher than the AASM in its more complex versions (laser and infrared). Years Furthermore, Sagem logically saw a very dim view of the arrival on the Rafale a competitor missile while the French manufacturer is trying to get funding for a AASM "light" of 125 kg , low side effect, whose feasibility has already been demonstrated.



Another possible explanation is very average performance of the Damocles pod designation in the identification of small targets in urban environments would not be permissible to reproduce Rafale performance obtained by the trio Tornado GR4/nacelle Litening / Brimstone during operation Harmattan. Hence the reluctance of the French part to fund the integration of the missile, if the "eyes" of the aircraft did not follow. That is why the British side, we say today until the end of the decade and the advent of F3-R standard (with new nacelle PDL NG ) for "re-attack" Rafale folder. Unless a customer does not impose export to put it on the carpet in the meantime ...

Other opportunities exist for Brimstone on the French market. At the conference of the 3AF, the missile had an artist's impression (above credit MBDA) illustrating the carriage of six missiles on a Tiger helicopter. In the 2020-2025 horizon, it will indeed find a replacement for the AGM-114 Hellfire American Tiger HAD to equip the Army. But here Brimstone could meet internal competition, as French teams MBDA highlight future MLP "long-range missile" directly derived from the MMP-tank which could take several subsystems.
In the short term, MBDA also aims to place its Brimstone on the MQ-9 Reaper drone, a first test shot from the platform must take place very soon. The aim is not only to equip Reaper Royal Air Force, but also those of the U.S. Air Force. And why not, tomorrow, the Reaper of the Air Force ...

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[Drsomnath999]

Joint exercise between Rafale M and F-16 Greek

Last December 4, an exercise took place between devices of the Greek Air Force and Rafale M, on board the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle for the operation "Belleau Wood" .

The training also provided an air outlet on December 3, but due to bad weather, it was partially canceled. The flights took place only in the morning of the second day.

Eight F-16 and Mirage 2000 four rubbed Rafale and Super Etendard Modernized the Navy.

This exercise, which took place off the coast of Crete, was proposed by the Navy and the Air Force Greek has immediately accepted the proposal.

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