Know Your 'Rafale'

[Drsomnath999]

2018 for the Next generation thales LDP

It is in 2018 that could be delivered the first laser designation pod next generation (NG PDL) developed by Thales, whose 45 copies should be ordered next year. Designated successor of the Damocles pod, the PDL NG must be a development for which approximately € 450 million may be incurred. If the launch is confirmed, it will equip the French Rafale (Air / Sea) and Mirage 2000D at the end of the decade, and will be delivered until 2022.

When asked, the DGA and Thales have not been able to provide comments. However, in the summer of 2012, the Delegate General for Armaments Laurent Collet-Billon had clarified that "negotiation was fastened" with Thales on this issue.

Several studies upstream markets had already been awarded to Thales to work on a new pod, which would include a TV camera plus an infrared sensor to facilitate the detection and identification of small targets in support missions close fire or intelligence unconventional (NTISR). This was particularly the object of PEA Mastrid notified in 2009 to 30 million - a program which it is impossible to know today what were the concrete results, as the subject is the subject of a "black- out "in terms of total communication.

On several occasions, employees of Thales Optronics Airborne Systems (TOSA) were moved from the breakdown of workload coming PDL NG if the contract was not notified. A union of the company in February 2012 stated that 150 jobs consultancy could be removed in June 2012, and 100 production jobs early 2014. The launch of the operation the next year will be confirmed before raising fears completely of these employees.

Budget documents associated with the proposed 2013 budget law specify that the PDL NG will also "proposed export." In this highly competitive market, busy with references that are U.S. Sniper (Lockheed Martin) and the Israeli Litening (Rafael), the new product will be hard to Thales.

Historically, the sale of boats has always been closely associated with that of combat aircraft. But the recent example of the Emirates who are disillusioned with the performance of the Damocles pod now, had demanded the integration of the Sniper U.S. urges caution. Especially as India, which aims to get its first Rafale by 2016 (ie before the PDL NG is available) may also be required to make the choice of a nacelle ... American or Israeli, as it did in the 90s to equip its Mirage 2000H.
Objectif 2018 pour le PDL NG de Thales - Air&Cosmos

 

[Drsomnath999]

The RAFALE Omnirole Fighter: Pushing Forward on New Air-

In October 2012, the RAFALE omnirole fighter reached two major milestones: the first delivery of a production aircraft equipped with the first production RBE2 AESA radar, and the initial successful testing of the new-generation, very long-range, METEOR air-to-air missile.

Pushing forward on new air-to-air capabilities, the Rafale B301, operating from Cazaux DGA Flight Test Center in southwestern France, successfully completed, on October 4 then on October 10, two successful tests of the beyond visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) Meteor.

On December 22, 2010, the French defense procurement agency (DGA: Direction Générale de l'Armement) ordered 200 Meteor missiles. A week after, the contract for integration of the Meteor missile to the Rafale system was awarded to the industry.
This advanced, ramjet-powered, missile, made by MBDA, is intended for air defense missions. It will intercept targets at very long range, and it will be a perfect complement to the MICA missile, which is currently used at shorter ranges for air-to-air interception, dogfight and self-defense.

On October 2, 2012, the first production Rafale F3 (the single-seater C137), equipped with the first production Thales RBE2 AESA 1 radar, was delivered to the French DGA, paving the way for the introduction into operational service of the first European combat aircraft fully exploiting the cutting edge AESA radar technology.

Extended range capabilities offered to the Rafale by the RBE2 AESA radar (among a number of other key operational benefits) allow the full use of the latest generation of long-range air-to-air missiles such as the Meteor.

The Rafale is already an extremely effective new-generation, combat proven (Afghanistan, Libya), omnirole tactical fighter, but development is continuing apace to exploit more and more of the aircraft's tremendous capabilities, and to seamlessly add new ones. As a result, the Rafale looks set to become even better in the near future.

http://www.aviation.ca/201210161328...ushing-forward-on-new-air-to-air-capabilities

 

[arya]

SP's Aviation, October 2012, IAF modernisation :

there is no pak fa in 2022 list

are sleeping guys or anything wrong , they are showing data without any homework

so according to them in 2022 we will not have pak fa

kunal dont you see the point

may be true

 

[Armand2REP]

Rafale Tests Meteor

 

[natarajan]

there is no pak fa in 2022 list

are sleeping guys or anything wrong , they are showing data without any homework

so according to them in 2022 we will not have pak fa

kunal dont you see the point

may be true

reality by russian past experience , we should be happy if we get operational by 2025

 

[Drsomnath999]

Zoom on the active antenna radar, new Rafale eyesight

You announced in early October: the Air Force received its first Rafale equipped as standard with latest radar designed by Thales. Thanks to him, the pilot benchmark targets smaller and faster. In what ways? In what ways? Explanations.

Registered C137, the first Rafale equipped as standard with an active antenna radar tells joined airbase Mont-de-Marsan (Landes). The French fighter becomes the first European aircraft to benefit from such technology.

In principle, this new radar - located in the nose of the aircraft - is able to scan an area of "‹"‹research more efficiently, emitting a beam able to jump quickly from one direction to another. For this, the electronic architecture is radically different from the previous one.

"In the new radar, the antenna is formed by hundreds of mini antennas. Each of these mini-modules transmitters / receivers is more finely controlled electronically, which orients the global beam in the desired direction without any mechanical movement. Such flexibility allows to identify a larger number of targets in the field of research pilot almost instantly, "says Bruno Carrara, Rafale program manager at Thales .

According to the designer, the performance gains are significant and allow the pilot to more effectively achieve its mission. "With this architecture, the power of the radar is improved. This results in an increased range of 50%. Rafale can detect target farther or for the same distance see smaller targets, "said the head of Thales.

MORE ROBUST AND LESS EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN

Typically, in the context of an intercept mission, a pilot can "see" the enemy aircraft from 10 to 20 seconds earlier than before. Seconds worth of gold when we know that the approach speed between two devices is of the order of 1 km / sec and a fight rarely exceeds a minute.

Another important advantage for the portfolio of military radar is more robust and would be less expensive to maintain. The failure of some antennas does not in fact operate the equipment. Thus, the expected failure rate of active antenna radar could be up to 10 times lower than the previous radars.

This technological marvel is the result of a long R & D effort led by Thales. "Early prototyping of new radar began in 2002. Mobilized This development, according to the phases, from 100 to 200 engineers over a decade" says Bruno Carrara.

Finally, for the Rafale, which includes Dassault Aviation , Thales and the engine Safran , this new equipment is an additional chance to sell fighter French abroad. Only U.S. competitors have mastered this technology.

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[Armand2REP]

The developments page for Eurofighter isn't 1/10th as long as Rafale.

 

[Drsomnath999]

Burst: a standard F3-R for 2018

The standard F3-R will use Meteor and PDL NG

This is Admiral Guillaud, Chief of Defence Staff, who announced in a recent hearing before the Defence Committee of the National Assembly: "The launch of the F3 standard Rafale-R" is part of weapons operations maintained "in 2012 and 2013." This new software upgrade of the aircraft should in particular allow the integration of future PDL NG pod and Meteor missile.

Further improvements are still planned for this standard must be applied to retrofit the entire fleet Rafale. In order to maintain a good level of interoperability with other Allied fighters, the hunter will be well with a capacity IFF Mode 5 / S, as well as advanced methods for connection 16. The system tamper Spectra continue to grow, and part of Libyan feedback will be taken into account with improved fire control certain air-ground capabilities and Reco NG pod.

This new standard F3-R should, when launched in 2013, to be available in the military in 2018, ie when the first Meteor and PDL NG will be delivered. Before that, the commissioning of F3.4 standard, the latest evolution programmed before F3-R is expected for 2014.

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[average american]

And if Dassault convinced the Americans to buy the Rafale?

Visiting the University of Defence in Brest, Edelstenne noted that future American F-35 would cost much more than the Rafale. Dassault boss invites Americans to buy French.

This is one of the provocations Edelstenne a secret. Scuds as a boss Dassault Aviation strives to send with the regularity of a Swiss watch. Second day of the Defense University on Tuesday, September 11 at 9:00 in Brest: a peaceful debate ensued on the "defense of Europe". Industrial, military, ambassadors, heads of agencies and defense weapons converse setbacks of European and American programs, including the massive program of F-35 or JSF, in which the United States had succeeded in embarking countries European countries such as the United Kingdom, Italy, the Netherlands and Denmark.

Edelstenne rises. Request the microphone. And embarks on a merciless pounding of the U.S., the total cost has slipped from 50% in recent years, from 1,000 to 1,500 billion according to the Pentagon. "The current difficulties are just the beginning, because the maturation phase systems is much more complex. The unit cost has already surpassed that of the Rafale , while the quantities ordered for the F-35 is more than ten times higher ... "

The reason for the continuation of this program ruinous? Edelstenne cracks a smile: "The Americans call TINA program, for" There is no alternative. "But if there is an alternative: the Rafale aircraft experienced technically and financially."



A joke based on a reality

The message is clear: if the countries of the F-35 program, including the United States, came to renounce, Dassault would be delighted to place its Rafale. Although the manufacturer has made a habit to deliver only 11 aircraft per year in its sole French client: "If states want hundreds of aircraft, we will arrange no problem," laughs Eric Trappier, international director of the aircraft manufacturer.

Of course, the proposal is primarily Edelstenne the joke: it would hurt Washington and its allies to abandon a program to 1,450 billion (the life of equipment) to buy French fighter, even if the Rafale would probably be much cheaper than the F-35.

But the projection of this morning has at least the merit of clearly the problem: despite additional costs phenomenal enormous technical difficulties on the engine Pratt & Whitney F135 and industrial returns disappoint Washington's allies, the program F-35 Lockheed Martin has actually managed its strategic goal: Wipe the defense budgets of several European states, burdened by this purchase, while preventing them to go to the competition despite the delays and extra costs of the program.

At this time of writing a new White Paper on Defence, the lesson is not anecdotal. NATO, and through it the United States, continue to put pressure on Europe to convert to "pooling and sharing" and "Smart defense", two popular anglicisms to define the pooling and sharing between allied military equipment such as tankers or surveillance drones. It was one of the great anthems of the NATO summit in Chicago.

A strategy that could be that of Europe against the American ogre

At first glance, the idea is appealing the European states in the midst of shrinking defense budgets. But the trap is clear: most of these shares are, and may always be, on American equipment. "The Smart Defense is a war machine for the U.S. industry, ensures Jean-Louis Carrère, chairman of the Defense Committee of the Senate. Example F-35 and perhaps soon the anti-ballistic missile defense [ European shield project-based radars, and interceptor missiles destroyers American Ed] shows that their method is to drain the national budget and kill the European defense industry. " All without the industrial returns expected by customers in Europe: "On the F-35, industrial return for partners, including the United Kingdom, the caliper measurement," points to the delegate gééral arming Laurent Collet -Billon.

By offering a pooling based on the Rafale, Edelstenne sketch perhaps the strategy could be the face of Europe in the American ogre: the pooling of equipment, yes, but incorporating a dimension of European preference. Remains whether the historic allies of Washington in Europe, London head, hear it that way.
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The Rafale is on a par with the F18super hornet, no where near the F22 or F35, compared to them the Rafale is a flying barn door.

 

[Drsomnath999]

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[Drsomnath999]

Future Spectra

In a previous issue (n°2329 -5th october), A&C reveals the forthcoming introduction of GaN on a new Spectra prototype in 2014.

DGA

Why now ? Next year, a new production line should be qualified by UMS for GaN semi conductors working in X-band. Up to now, they only produced S-band components.

The current Spectra (and the coming RBE-2 AA) uses GaAs components, which are already pushed to their upper limit. Compared with this, GaN should be 2 to 5 times more powerful, and also works in wider bandwidth, and better efficiency.

Because the production will progressively improve with time, the first application for Rafale will be the development of a new Spectra prototype in 2014 (PEA Incas).

And, later, maybe, new conformal arrays for the radar...
Rafale News: Future Spectra

 

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[Drsomnath999]

SOME STUNNING RAFALE'S PICS IN CAMO

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THANK U FOR THE PICS MATE

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Keep up the good work !

 

[Drsomnath999]

Damocles XF dropped, PDL NG for 2018

Air & Cosmos N°2305 gave us two pages about the future of designation pods for Rafale.

First of all, Damocles XF (and improved Damocles with a TV channel) is dropped.

Then, it's all about the PDL NG (Pod de Désignation Laser Nouvelle Génération = New Generation Laser Designation Pod).

We learn that France will, alone, invest € 450 millions for 45 pods which will equip both Mirage 2000D and Rafale.
While Damocles only used a 320x240 IR sensor, the PDL NG will use a 640x520 matrix. This resolution will be doubled by a micro-scanning technique, a solution preferred to a 1024 pixels wide matrix.
Of course, this IR sensor will be complemented by a TV channel for daylight operations and identification of very small targets (something which lacked to the Damocles too).

Another feature will be an improved geolocalization using GPS + INS (from the airplane) for near-metric accuracy. Damocles already proposed such a function, but not as accurate as the AASM.

The RCS (radar cross section) of the pod will be reduced.

Last but not least, the PDL NG will be carrier compatible.
Rafale News: Damocles XF dropped, PDL NG for 2018

 

[Drsomnath999]

Qatar set to replace its Mirage 2000-5 with Rafale ?

We know for a while that Qatar is interested in buying new fighters to replace its Mirage 2000-5 delivered in 1997.

According to La Tribune today, Rafale would be well positionned if required, because :
Qatar has given its word to replace its Mirage with Rafale ;
Rafale has been very successful during the hot weather trials (50°C) conducted earlier (with live AASM firing and Qatar pilots in the back seat), contrary to F-15 and F-18.

The problem is "when ?" While some sources indicated that Qatar could select a type before the end of the year, some others thinks that Qatar doesn't need to replace the Mirage right now. A situation which looks similar to the UAE's.

Of course, there are two other types that Qatar will evaluate before : Eurofighter Typhoon and F-16b50/52.
Jon Lake told us in April that the evaluation of Typhoon had been cancelled in April 2011 (lybian operations), so, they still have to do it.

Rafale News: Qatar set to replace its Mirage 2000-5 with Rafale ?

 

[p2prada]

Good, that will bring it to LITENING standards.

 

[Drsomnath999]

hmm quite correct :cool2:

well but israeli litening pods looks quite favourite to be install in INDIA'S rafale .Lets see who wins

 

[p2prada]

LITENING is proven and will be cheaper. If the French will take 8 years to make it operational I would prefer IAF chooses LITENING for Rafale instead.

 

[Drsomnath999]

Aviation Week, 5/12 november:

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