Know Your 'Rafale'

[Blackwater]

any info what sort of Rafael India will get ? i mean any special tech or model for India

 

[trackwhack]

they have shown to IAF what progress they have made in radar and what is its future and IaF is satisfied with it. brahmos is too heavy for this fighter.

Thanks Singh and Saya.

Interesting about Brahmos being too heavy. The Rafale has 25 kn more thrust than the MKI no. So why would weight be a problem? Anyway it does not matter I guess. As long as the Super 30 does the job.

 

[H.A.]

Its so ironic. India was once ruled by France and now France or rather a French company will be dependent on the Indian order, and possibly the only reason for its existence.

 

[Illusive]

So this Rafale is exclusive to IAF or do you guys think navy would be interested to include it for IAC.

 

[Blackwater]

Its so ironic. India was once ruled by France and now France or rather a French company will be dependent on the Indian order, and possibly the only reason for its existence.

French ruled India? when and where? pls shed some light.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

British view:


French Rafale jet beats Eurofighter in $10bn India deal
BBC news, Jan 31

Dassault Aviation will now enter final negotiations before signing the deal that will supply India's air force with 126 Rafale aircraft.Correspondents say this is one of the world's biggest defence deals and is a major setback for rival bidder, the Eurofighter Typhoon.Eurofighter lost out in December on an $8bn deal to supply jets to Japan.Shares in Dassault Aviation rocketed more than 20% as the latest news broke.

'Purely cost'

Officials at the British High Commission in Delhi said they were disappointed with the decision and would now study the details.They added: "It was expressly said this was about the cost of the contract, not a reflection on the health of bilateral relations between India and the countries."The officials said they "genuinely believed the [Eurofighter] Typhoon offered the best capability now and in the future".
They also said it was "not beyond imagination" that India might decide the Rafale was not the right option as it continued the process. French Minister of State for Foreign Trade Pierre Lellouche welcomed the deal, the first foreign order for the Rafale multi-role jet.
He said: "This is good news and France needs good news right now... It is good news for our aerospace industry and for our defence industry."Mr Lellouche also complained that "political pressure applied by our competitors does not make things very easy".Indian Defence Minister AK Antony had earlier cautioned that this remained a "long process" and that no deal would be signed before the end of March.
One Indian defence ministry source confirmed to ******* that the Rafale had been "much cheaper unit-wise", adding: "Moreover, the Indian air force, which is well-equipped with French fighters, is favouring the French."The Typhoon is built by the German and Spanish branches of European aerospace giant EADS, Britain's BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica.Four other bidders had dropped out in the lengthy Indian selection process.


From:
BBC News - French Rafale jet beats Eurofighter in $10bn India deal

 

[JAISWAL]

Thread Information
There are currently 403 users browsing this thread. (36
members and 367 guests)
JAISWAL, Iamanidiot,
Dovahkiin, one, Jayan82,
anocean, blackwater,
joe81, mahesh,
Indianboy, sgk19832004,
Neil, hit&run, drifter,
Bhadra, Singh,
ganesh177, zeccor,
Yusuf, jayadev, cir,
natarajan,
proud_hindustani, raja696,
chakshush.arya,
utubekhiladi, mayfair,
Payeng, jaguar, sfo55555,
ashdoc, Yatharth Singh,
Bhon, Pandora, sky,
tony4562

 

[arundo]

This is great news !

 

[The Messiah]

Have i ever been wrong ? :cool2:

Rafale has won and rightly so.

But chance is being given to EF to improve there bid.

lol what are you both arguing about ?

decision has already been made and they are going though formalities...only official announcement needs to be made unless someone changes there pitch.

 

[Blackwater]

Pak army has managed to get 1 plane by begging from china in response to Rafael

 

[The Messiah]

French ruled India? when and where? pls shed some light.

 

[plugwater]

How much Mr.Swami got from Euro consortium for making these allegations

Great news!! Most beautiful fighter won

I miss Armand in this thread.

 

[sayareakd]

Brahmos

Weight 3,000 kg
2,500 kg (air-launched)

Rafale

Empty weight: 9,500 kg (C), 9,770 kg (B),[90] 10,196 kg (M) ()
Loaded weight: 14,016 kg (30,900 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 24,500 kg (C/D), 22,200 kg (M) (54,000 lb)

 

[JAYRAM]

Dassault thanks India.

Dassault Aviation : Rafale selected to equip the Indian Air Force

Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:51am EST

Saint-Cloud (France), January 31, 2012- Following the announcement of the final selection of the Rafale in the frame of the MMRCA program, Dassault Aviation and its partners are honored and grateful to the Indian Government and the people of India to be given the opportunity to extend their long-lasting cooperation.

Dassault Aviation and its partners reiterate their commitment to meet the operational requirements of the Indian Air Force and underline their pride in contributing to India's defence for over half a century.

About DASSAULT AVIATION

In the past sixty years Dassault Aviation has delivered more than 7500 civil and military aircraft to 75 countries logging some 20 million flight hours to date and is one of the few aerospace manufacturers mastering the technologies of the complete range of combat aircraft, such as the Rafale while being a world leader in the field of business jets, with the Falcon family.

This unique worldwide experience has allowed Dassault Aviation to build up considerable expertise in the design, development, production, sale and support of all types of aircraft and a recognized and demonstrated know-how, innovative operational solutions as well as a pragmatic and dynamic approach to cooperation.

Within the frame of a step-by-step approach initiated several years ago, it's know-how in the field of systems technologies and airborne vectors allow the company to propose the best cost-efficient solutions to the users.

Thanks to a pragmatic approach in its partnerships, Dassault Aviation has been able to establish a wide cooperation network with other companies, which is not only optimized for the success of today's programmes, but also contributing to the synergy of tomorrow's defence industries .


Dassault Aviation : Rafale selected to equip the Indian Air Force | Reuters

 

[Blackwater]

cant see french nor India in this light ..pls shed some more light

 

[Iamanidiot]

When are we going to get our first bird?Will we get the logistics correct?

 

[JAISWAL]

 

[plugwater]

Brahmos

Weight 3,000 kg
2,500 kg (air-launched)

Rafale

Empty weight: 9,500 kg (C), 9,770 kg (B),[90] 10,196 kg (M) ()
Loaded weight: 14,016 kg (30,900 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 24,500 kg (C/D), 22,200 kg (M) (54,000 lb)

IAF does not want every fighter to carry Brahmos, or else they would be making all Su-30s with the ability to carry brahmos.

Just Nirbhay would do and Rafale can carry it.

 

[H.A.]

Thanks Messaih for shedding some light.

@Blackwater here is some more light:
French colonial empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Blackwater]

Riots erupted in Karachi after hearing India finalized Rafael DEAL

Ary.com/news