JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[Kunal Biswas]

kanwa also reported c-802(fired from jft) hit a target at 90km while the full range is 180km

as per sipri pak received 175 sd-10a in 2011

Always provide link to support your claim..

 

[farhan_9909]

the klj-7 on jft was tweaked to better the performance slightly

130km range is good for a 5m2 size target(courtesy paf official)

detail post in the previous page
posted by indian member

 

[farhan_9909]

www.sipri.org/research/armaments/transfers/measuring/Recipient register 2011.pdf

sd-10a(export to pak)

 

[sob]

I could not find the SD 10 entry against Pakistan's name in the list.

 

[Defcon 1]

the klj-7 on jft was tweaked to better the performance slightly

130km range is good for a 5m2 size target(courtesy paf official)

detail post in the previous page
posted by indian member

130 km range is correct. No one is questioning it. By the way, is there anyway to find out if the jammers on MKI will be able to jam JF17's radar without pitching them against each other?

 

[farhan_9909]

I could not find the SD 10 entry against Pakistan's name in the list.

than you need to check it once again sir

with slightly more attention

PL-12/SD-10

 

[farhan_9909]

I could not find the SD 10 entry against Pakistan's name in the list.

130 km range is correct. No one is questioning it. By the way, is there anyway to find out if the jammers on MKI will be able to jam JF17's radar without pitching them against each other?

i dnt know much about this stuff

but jamming a radar is nt that easy as discussed online

 

[Armand2REP]

www.sipri.org/research/armaments/transfers/measuring/Recipient register 2011.pdf

Type 98/99 tanks use German MTU-883 engines?

 

[farhan_9909]

Type 98/99 tanks use German MTU-883 engines?

i guess in past(may be still)
or a license copy

though nt related to this thread

 

[shiphone]

dear P2P ...as I said already...that's for your reference only...and since you are so proud of your relation with Indian defence industry, I thought I know Chinese stuff better than you with the same logic ...take the hint...
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once again:
1. it's the wrong information that J10 has the KLJ10...in 2004,the rumor said J10 had the WS10 Engine ,KLJ10 Radar,PL10 AAM(all model number have the '10')... but it seems most are wrong .

2. the first chinese PD radar project was the KLJ1 started in 1970s ...the first jet with homemade PD radar was J8C in 1990s...

as we know... there are many PD radar projects in china ...such as KLJ 1, KLJ 3,KLJ 6E ,KLJ 7...JL10A ,SY80, 14XX,14YY ...they comes from different teams of different R&D units...

chinese R&D teams used to have different foreign partners ...and 2 teams' cooperation with that Italian Company had a long history in china ...they offered the radar on the J7 Export project: J7M in 1980s, this was the very beginning of the impact of italian Compact Radar tech on chinese radar projects for Light fighters(such as J7PG, J7G ,FC 1, improved A5).

2. the radar on J10 is another story ...ELM2035...we might be able to say 2035 was the enhanced 2032. or 2032 was compact version of 2035...and china got the access of 2035 radar tech quite early , in late 1980s or early 1990s...the ELM2035/32 was still under development then...the prototype of J10 were using the early version of KLJ3. but the current J10A has the MUCH improved version...and the prototype of KLJ3 on J10 PTs is being displayed in chinese Air force museum since 2009.

3. although the radars of JF17 and J10 are the products of the same R&D unit...but the developing teams are different. they may share the some tech. but as I said...the origin of tech is totally different. and these teams are competitors

 

[p2prada]

Yeah. I found information relating to that a little while later. Seems like NRIET developed it.

Anything substantial released about it considering it is an old radar by now.

 

[Armand2REP]

i guess in past(may be still)
or a license copy

That batch was exported in 2011 so how is that past? Chinis can't make modern engines to save their life.

 

[ice berg]

In your normal troll mode? If they can make engines for j-11b, they certainly can make engines for tanks.

 

[EzioAltaïr]

In your normal troll mode? If they can make engines for j-11b, they certainly can make engines for tanks.

What are you talking about? China uses Russian engines in its planes.

 

[ice berg]

What are you talking about? China uses Russian engines in its planes.

The engine problems had been solved by the end of 2009 and the WS-10A had reportedly proved mature enough to power the Block 02 aircraft
Shenyang J-11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia with reference to :Andreas Rupprecht. December 2011. "China's 'Flanker' gains momentum. Shenyang J-11 update". Combat Aircraft Monthly. Vol.12, No.12, pp. 40-42

MInd you, that was 3 years ago.
New J-10a are also using WS-10s.

 

[farhan_9909]

i heard that j10b use the WS10B

 

[ice berg]

No, they still using russian engines. Maybe in later batches.

 

[Defcon 1]

I have a question, what will be the composition of 3 squadron of JF17. Each squadron should have 20 aircraft. so 40 +1(crashed) for the first two squadrons. That would mean that 9 aircraft of Block I where 11 blk II aircraft should constitute the third squadrons. Did I get that right?

 

[farhan_9909]

I have a question, what will be the composition of 3 squadron of JF17. Each squadron should have 20 aircraft. so 40 +1(crashed) for the first two squadrons. That would mean that 9 aircraft of Block I where 11 blk II aircraft should constitute the third squadrons. Did I get that right?

first squadron 16 and the rest 18 per squadron

the one crashed was recently After the manufacturing and they might manufacture another(i Am not sure though)

the third squadron will replace the mirage(exocet ashm) with jft(yj83 for anti ship role)

to support the navy

 

[p2prada]

first squadron 16 and the rest 18 per squadron

Wouldn't that be 16+16+18? Or 16+18+16?

the one crashed was recently After the manufacturing and they might manufacture another(i Am not sure though)

Yeah. They will.